BREAKING NEWS

B) super bowl.

it may not for u andrew for me it ceternly is disturbing .

cuz i was sleeping when it happened ,i dint get to see.

a life time chance gone by :D
 
Originally posted by abid@Feb 5 2004, 03:55 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Dr A Q Khan pakistans top neuclear scientist has accepted that he was the? one behind all the neuclear technology transfer to iran and other countries he said the the present govt. was not behind it.he appologized to the pakistani president Pervez Musharaf..and asked him for ognorance .now the senate will decide his future..
This what reply come from Pat,
I dont think Mr.Scientist could have done this without the help of top-level officials in pak government.Definitely dont beleive this.
and then from Bharat_88,
Musharaff would have sold it to make money which will be used to make weapons of mass distruction

-_- <_< :angry: :wacko: :blink: ;)

I've seen on the Channel News Asia and in the local news papers that one of the American papers stated that some people from seven other countries including India is also included in this case. Now what do you guys have to say about this? -_- <_<
 
I am against this nuclear secrets crisis. What has america got to do with us ( India, Pak or any country for that matter ) possessing nuclear weapons? They have such weapons as well, more than any other nation. If one of our scientists sold secrets, then it is our business to look into the matter, not theirs.

Bush waged a war on Iraq, just because he wanted to hide his failure in eliminating Osama Bin Laden.

They said that Iraq possessed WMDs, but they still have not found one. They needed oil, now they have all that they want.

Every country has WMDs, even we have. But, they will not, cannot bully us.
 
Originally posted by sohaibaslam@Feb 10 2004, 01:28 AM
I dont think Mr.Scientist could have done this without the help of top-level officials in pak government.Definitely dont beleive this.

Musharaff would have sold it to make money which will be used to make weapons of mass distruction
So what, if the government knew of that, or even sold it for money?
 
Exactly correct
Another Breaking news
Paris Hilton has sued the internet company for illegally showing her private activities on a video tape
The Americans have on-screen sex in movies but this lady is embarassed by this incident
They strip off -naked on beaches but just an accidental showing of janet jackson`s breast becomes embarassing for them
What is , it was britney spears in place of janet
Would people have reacted the same way?
Everyone knnows that one of the few groups in america who have shame and do not like to expose or have sex on screen are black americans and that is why people are embarassed
People wud have enjoyed it if britney was there
That is how americans are and it is fact
 
Sachin and Ganguly have got family pressures to not go to Pak
They were already on the jehadis hitlist, according to intelligence agencies a few years ago .
A gr8 setback to the tour
Let us wait and see
 
Originally posted by sohaibaslam+Feb 10 2004, 01:28 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sohaibaslam @ Feb 10 2004, 01:28 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-abid
@Feb 5 2004, 03:55 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Dr A Q Khan pakistans top neuclear scientist has accepted that he was the? one behind all the neuclear technology transfer to iran and other countries he said the the present govt. was not behind it.he appologized to the pakistani president Pervez Musharaf..and asked him for ognorance .now the senate will decide his future..
This what reply come from Pat,
I dont think Mr.Scientist could have done this without the help of top-level officials in pak government.Definitely dont beleive this.
and then from Bharat_88,
Musharaff would have sold it to make money which will be used to make weapons of mass distruction

-_- <_< :angry: :wacko: :blink: ;)

I've seen on the Channel News Asia and in the local news papers that one of the American papers stated that some people from seven other countries including India is also included in this case. Now what do you guys have to say about this? -_- <_< [/b]
B) the reports say that india and pak both got thier nuclear technology from the underground sources. and thats true...

but that doesnt mean that india has sold its technology to others
plus what do u think that iran and iraq ,libya have not asked india for nukes
they did but india refused . only once when the petroleum prices had gone sky high one indian minister i dont remember his name had gone to libya to ask cheap petrol ,but they said give us plutonium reprocessing technology,the minister dint know what it meant ,but he agreed and when he came back there was a big fuss.
then india politely showed the sign NOT FOR SALE.

india and pakistan both r not a signatory NPT
so no one has the rights to question india or pakistan
but what they can do is put sanctions on our countrys.
usa is already considering to cancell the 3 bn$ package to pakistan

the only thing what worrys the usa is pakistan has sold these nukes to thier enemy. iran,north korea and maybe binladen

here
 
B) there is also a report that qadeer used american planes c-30 to transport

wmd from syria to north korea ,this maybe not true,cuz the americans r only trying to find a way to go to war with syria.they say that iraq's wmd were taken to syria and then flown from there by qadeer khan .to north korea or iran ,so the usa weapons inspectors wont find them...
 
Originally posted by Iniyan+Feb 10 2004, 09:05 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Iniyan @ Feb 10 2004, 09:05 AM)</div>
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@Feb 10 2004, 01:28 AM
I dont think Mr.Scientist could have done this without the help of top-level officials in pak government.Definitely dont beleive this.

Musharaff would have sold it to make money which will be used to make weapons of mass distruction
So what, if the government knew of that, or even sold it for money? [/b]
B) but was the money used for pakistan's intrest????

qadeer khan's daughter who is in london i think ,reports says that khan had sent her tape which could prove that musharaf and many others were involved in this . no doubt mushraf pardoned him plus told him that he could keep his wealth which he got from selling nukes technology,that means even the mush got some money out of it .

even the usa dont want this matter to become more big ,cuz they think that mush is the only friend usa has in pakistan.and they dont want his gov to fall.
 
Originally posted by Iniyan@Feb 8 2004, 02:05 PM
What do they have to threaten us on Ground troops? The Indian Army is ten times better than the US army. We could crush the US army like we did it to Pakistan in 70s war.
Are you out of your mind, Pakistan had all the obselete equipment in 1965 as you people took all the new one at the time of independence and Pakistan kicked your woof! with obselete one.
 
Originally posted by Mike Atherton+Feb 10 2004, 11:35 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mike Atherton @ Feb 10 2004, 11:35 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Iniyan
@Feb 8 2004, 02:05 PM
What do they have to threaten us on Ground troops? The Indian Army is ten times better than the US army. We could crush the US army like we did it to Pakistan in 70s war.
Are you out of your mind, Pakistan had all the obselete equipment in 1965 as you people took all the new one at the time of independence and Pakistan kicked your woof! with obselete one. [/b]
B) pl.dont start a war here.

whatever happened was a long time ago ....
but what hurts me the most is that many indians gave thier lives in this war ,and also gave refuge to bangladeshis,but never ever have bangladesh thanked india or even in thier history they dont mention indian sacrifice.
 
Originally posted by Mike Atherton@Feb 10 2004, 11:35 AM
Are you out of your mind, Pakistan had all the obselete equipment in 1965 as you people took all the new one at the time of independence and Pakistan kicked your woof! with obselete one.
India has lost a war only to China after Independence.

Every time Pakistan came to war, we didn't simply kick their woof!, but tore them apart from the rest of their body.

You need not teach me military history. I know more than what you do, and I know the truth. Not every news is true.
 
1965 War:

The second Indo-Pakistani conflict (1965) was fought over Kashmir and started without a formal declaration of war. It is widely accepted that the war began with the infiltration of Pakistani-controlled guerrillas into Indian Kashmir on about August 5, 1965. Skirmishes with Indian forces started as early as August 6 or 7, and the first major engagement between the regular armed forces of the two sides took place on August 14. The next day, Indian forces scored a major victory after a prolonged artillery barrage and captured three important mountain positions in the northern sector. Later in the month, the Pakistanis counterattacked, moving concentrations near Tithwal, Uri, and Punch. Their move, in turn, provoked a powerful Indian thrust into Azad Kashmir. Other Indian forces captured a number of strategic mountain positions and eventually took the key Haji Pir Pass, eight kilometers inside Pakistani territory.

The Indian gains led to a major Pakistani counterattack on September 1 in the southern sector, in Punjab, where Indian forces were caught unprepared and suffered heavy losses. The sheer strength of the Pakistani thrust, which was spearheaded by seventy tanks and two infantry brigades, led Indian commanders to call in air support. About 3,000 Indians were dead, That very evening came one of the largest aerial counter-attacks ever. The Indian Air Force counter-attacked killing 4,800 Pakistanis and destroying more than fifty tanks. The next day ( Sep. 2 ) was the day of aerial combat. On Sep. 3, the UN called for cease-fire and both the countries agreed.

1971 War:

Unable to deter India's activities in the eastern sector, on December 3, 1971, Pakistan launched an air attack in the western sector on a number of Indian airfields, including Ambala in Haryana, Amritsar in Punjab, and Udhampur in Jammu and Kashmir. The attacks did not succeed in inflicting substantial damage. The Indian air force retaliated the next day and quickly achieved air superiority. On the ground, the strategy in the eastern sector marked a significant departure from previous Indian battle plans and tactics, which had emphasized set-piece battles and slow advances. The strategy adopted was a swift, three-pronged assault of nine infantry divisions with attached armored units and close air support that rapidly converged on Dhaka, the capital of East Pakistan. Lieutenant General Sagat Singh, who commanded the eighth, twenty-third, and fifty-seventh divisions, led the Indian thrust into East Pakistan. As these forces attacked Pakistani formations, the Indian air force rapidly destroyed the small air contingent in East Pakistan and put the Dhaka airfield out of commission. In the meantime, the Indian navy effectively blockaded East Pakistan. Dhaka fell to combined Indian and Mukti Bahini forces on December 16, bringing a quick end to the war.

The war was over in 14 days, completely - no more bloodshed.

An interim govt. was formed and India left Bangladesh. Compare that to the Americans on Iraq.

That simply shows the strength of our tacticians and our Forces.
 
B) pakistanis claim they had won that war if not for the cease fire
 

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