Codemasters shifts focus in favour of Racing

:lolTo me, "racing" means horse racing, so that's what I thought when I first read your thread title. Made me wonder about whether an FM-style owner/trainer game about horse-racing would be successful. Has it been done before?

There are a couple of FM style horse racing but it reminds me better of New star soccer which is a football player sim WITH horse racing, women and drugs....

addicting.
 
There are a couple of FM style horse racing but it reminds me better of New star soccer which is a football player sim WITH horse racing, women and drugs....

addicting.
That sounds really good too! :cheers
 
Err JB, if you don't mind me asking.. How old are you? I didn't realise tongue in cheek remarks about working street corners would affect your sensibilities so much. I'll remember to remain deadly serious in future :rolleyes
 
i'm banking the last chance of a cricket game to be around the next ashes series if we don't have one by that time we might as well give up.
 
i'm banking the last chance of a cricket game to be around the next ashes series if we don't have one by that time we might as well give up.
I'd suggest that the 2015 World Cup in Australia/NZ is likely to result in a game, all the other World Cups have had officially licensed games (even if the 2011 one was terrible). Particularly as the tournament will be in this region of the world a local developer is much more likely to try and take it on.

That said, the next Ashes were when we were always expecting the next game from Codemasters to be, so this announcement doesn't change much yet. The word from a spokesman is that while racing is their current total focus, that doesn't rule out changes in the future.
 
Especially when in a few years time people will have gotten annoyed by the continually bug filled F1 games that don't seem to be making any progress from their first decent attempt (sounds familiar haha).
 
i email them that what they reply

Thank you for submitting your recent request to Codemasters Customer Services concerning International Cricket 2010.

Unfortunately we cannot confirm any plans, at the moment, to release a new Cricket game. We do not rule out doing a sequel to this game, but this will not be in the immediate future.
 
I don't know when people will understand that these developer's don't give rat's ass about cricket games. By emailing them about future games. we only manage to amuse them more.
 
to think there are many ways to stop Piracy system...People Must stop downloading piracy games....they work hard on games....
 
Eh? Piracy is basically an excuse used by poor developers to explain to their publisher why it hasn't sold.

For example.

"Look, 75 million people downloaded our game, whilst 1 person bought it. If they had all bought it, we'd have made ?3,000,000 in revenue instead of ?40. It has nothing to do with being a crap game, it's because of the pirates innit."

Now, this is a compelling argument, only there are people like Valve who seem to be surviving quite nicely. In fact, when I look at a lot of games that are successful, it's amazing how they don't even mention the piracy numbers. So if everyone is pirating games, how on earth does anyone make any money?

Well, perhaps, they actually provide a game worth paying for? Maybe, they make sure that the user would want to pay for the game. For example, if I downloaded a game for free, I would find that perhaps the always online DRM had been removed. Or maybe the need to put the CD in the drive no longer exists?

Had this game been made by Ubisoft, if I had bought it, I would almost certainly need to do these things. I would, essentially, be going through a longer process to play the game I purchased, than the scummer who illegally downloaded it.

Of course, take Codemasters. They spent so long trying to make sure no-one could pirate their game, investing in pointless secure-rom systems, and essentially what did they really achieve? They made a game that alienated the community. Instead of successfully creating the groundworks for a cricket game that on a base level was much better than it's competitor. They created a cricket game that was a minor improvement on EA's rubbish equivalent, but gave it absolutely no longetivity because no-one could mod it. It died because of it's own limitations bolted on by their own developers.

So, yes, don't pirate, because it is illegal and there actually isn't any justification. You are essentially stealing someone's work. However, are you aware that 2nd hand game sales are just as big an issue for the developers? Afterall, once it goes 2nd hand, they also no longer receive any revenue for it. With this in mind, perhaps companies would be more advised to consider their customer and appeal to them, not their shareholders and how they can most exploit their customers. Codies didn't listen to their playerbase, they didn't take the hit early on and make sure they had early sales. They didn't improve anything, and they didn't give their fairly dedicated community a chance to improve their game.

Again going back to Valve, they've even turned player made mods into fully fledged paid content. Through Steam, they hold regular sales, which limits the desire to purchase a 2nd hand game, as the thought it will turn up on Steam cheap exists. Even at sale price, at least the money is going to the developers. Codies have only themselves to blame, as do a lot of the companies who continually refuse to accept that their lack of sales are down to them, and that instead they can just blame some flimsy grey area of society as the fault.
 
Cricket will return...

Someone will revisit the cricket game making spot one day.

As was said - probably the 2015 world cup...

Here's hoping. :wave
 
I don't know when people will understand that these developer's don't give rat's ass about cricket games.

That's because there is no money in it, all well and good saying they've been of a poor standard (fair argument) but the project has to be self sustaining and quality/development isn't cheap, you can't continue to give a rats ass if you're losing money, it still has to be a sustainable business and the IC and EA Cricket series just weren't. The sales figures I saw for IC2010 made it immediately obvious they were dropping the series, no big developer will take on a cricket sim game. EA dropped them, Codies have as well.

You'll find very few people wanting to invest in a niche genre when there are plenty more desirable genres out there. It's a tough old world out there, investment isn't exactly being handed out.

Though that doesn't change the situation, it's tough for those wanting a cricket simulator, there's nothing out there and you could well be waiting till the WC to see something.

The support of IC2010 was disappointing, the potential was there for all to see, but it has to be financially viable, and it wasn't, which is why the support wasn't there. It's massively disappointing, but it is what it is.
 

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