cricket 2005 developers take note

potholes

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This is not meant to be an aggressive email, rather it is a bit of constructive criticism from someone who has been playing both the real game and the video games released since allan border's cricket.
There are some absolutely terrible aspects of cricket 2005 that should have been sorted out ages ago.

1) The pace of the game is mind meltingly slow. Not only does this make gameplay very boring, but it also makes timing, which is a key aspect of the real game, almost a non-issue.

2) The game seems to have been developed by people who haven't even seen a cricket match. When u bowl a swinging delivery the ball spins in the air (like a spin bowler) for god's sake! They should look at the ball physics of brian lara 2005 to find out how to make the ball move relatively realistically.

3) Too much emphasis has been made on the most irrelevant parts of the game such as stadiums, crowds, graphics and cut scenes. They should be concentrating on the actual physics of ball and bat, ball and pitch etc. U can bowl a relatively well pitched up delivery in the game and they ball bounce is so uneven and inaccurate its depressing.

3) There aren't enough ways to out-fox the computer opponent. Adding late swing like in brian lara 2005 was a great idea because u can decieve the batsmen. There are not nearly enough edges and proper dismissals, too many wickets fall by pathetic shots that pop up to mid-off etc. In brian lara u can get more lbw's and bowled's.

4) Although there are many different shots, the style of gameplay that they have used makes them horribly ineffective. When you are bowling to the AI batsmen u get the feeling that you can't 'beat' them with any delivery. Perhaps they need to not allow the computer certain information on deliveries to provide an accurate game rather than having the AI batsmen slog yorkers etc. Whereas on the other hand, when you are batting, u can easily miss shots and get bowled etc. The Ai doesn't allow that. It feels as if you are beating a dead horse.

5) No distinguishable pitch wearing is evident. In brian Lara 2005 you can actually seen foot marks appearing on the pitch throughout even a relatively short match.

6)Too much emphasis is placed on batting. In easy mode the AI batsmen still slog you around the park and make a decent score, however to compensate for this the batting is easier when you have your turn. What about the joys of seeing a batsman's stumps flying? Snicks to slips etc. It just doesn't happen.

What we have in cricket 2005 is a good-looking game with no thought about the most important elements of a cricket game: PHYSICS and REALISM.

additional - No drift in the game!!?? I thought of an idea to improve the bowling. The ball icon on the hud should be able to be manipulated ie-point the seam towards the slips for an outswinger. Pick a side to shine at the start of the innings and manipulate this ball icon to make the ball move properly (wind could be another variable to be included). More seam is also need, like in the real game. Seam in c2k5 just goes past the bat and past the keeper ffs! In my opinion Brian Lara has got ther measure of c2k5 where it matters! C2k5 is just horribly inaccurate!
 
But the game is still enjoyable to play!!!! most of the bugs in the game arent too glaring in my opinion!!!
 
fair enough

You have your opinion mate which is fine and dandy.....although i will say that the reason they're getting away with inferior games is cos peeps are just too easy to please. U don't find that fact the ball doesn't behave even close to properly a tad annoyin?
 
I'll have to agree with potholes on that one... the ball behaviour is a big issue that needs to be dealt with
 
c2k5 is a pathetic game without a doubt...no body can deny that..it just lacks those points that cud make a cricket game realistic..a game shud be either arcadey or realistic...c2k5 is neither...
Hey and potholes wud you recommend buying BLIC..i am still in 2 minds about it..
 
brian lara?

I suppose I would recommend Brian Lara 2005 (i've only sampled the demo but the full game should obviously be better)over c2k5 because the little flaws in c2k5 just make the game so disappointing and an absolute shocker to get into. Brian lara offers a completely different angle to a cricket game that i find refreshing. There are ups and downs however:
UPS- Great ball on pitch/ball on bat/ball through air physics.
- Batting is solid (if u are slightly out of line for a shot, your player will shimmy across a little to get into line, whereas if you are in line he wont move. Great idea.
- Game speed is great. Fast enough to keep the game moving.
- Bowling is much more effective. You get the feeling you can beat the AI batsmen. There are more swing and misses etc. The mechanism they have used to add swing is great and u can make the ball move realistically (which you can analyse through hawkeye).
-TAil enders play accordingly eg- they try to slog balls without moving their feet.
- You can actually see footmarks from the bowlers from the first few overs of an innings.
DOWNS - These are mostly irrelevant when you are after the basics of the game to be accurate and enjoyable.
- No stats n stuff (doesnt bother me really, there is no point having stats for a game that you don't want to play lots, like c2k5).
- Less choice of shots. You aim the direction of the shot and the game selects either a front foot or back foot shot depending on the length.
- Graphically not as good as c2k5, but again, you can't have a game that looks like cricket but isn't, like c2k5.
- You can't add the amount of spin to spinning deliveries, which is a bit disappointing but the spinners are still effective and fun to bowl with.
There are lots more ups and downs worth mentioning but i can't be bothered just now...got uni assignments to do! :( In the end you have to pay the money, so it's really up to you. I'm just so sick of EA making cricket games that look great but lack depth and effort on the part of the designers. BLIC is a tad more 'arcadey' but that term might put people off, it's really more fast paced and fun, while still having the basics of the game implemented a lot better than EA.
 
- No stats n stuff (doesnt bother me really, there is no point having stats for a game that you don't want to play lots, like c2k5).
- Graphically not as good as c2k5, but again, you can't have a game that looks like cricket but isn't, like c2k5.

u are spot on there mate..anyways sounds good..lemme give BLIC a shot..
 
But as I like every EA cricket game, I really like C 2005.
 
So you guys think that being able to hit most balls for 6, not being able to play backfoot shots and the player shimmying into position if he is not in line is authentic cricket. Maybe EA's game like the real game is too hard for you guys.
Cricket 2005 may not be the ultimate in a cricket sim but then again no game can replace the real thing. At least though it is a contest like the real game. If you try slogging from the start you will get out if you have patience you will score. As for it being slow and therefore boring I wouldn't think so. Being able to hit everyball in the middle is boring to me. At least EA use the real player names in all modes of play. I suppose that is unrealistic as well.
If you don't like the EA game maybe you should write in the blic forum rather than this one.
Just an opinion.
Cricket 2005 has a few problems but at least it is a challenge.
 
satish_lastride said:
c2k5 is a pathetic game without a doubt...no body can deny that..it just lacks those points that cud make a cricket game realistic..a game shud be either arcadey or realistic...c2k5 is neither...
Hey and potholes wud you recommend buying BLIC..i am still in 2 minds about it..

Satish i've got both games on PC and PS2. firstly i preffered BLIC over C2005 the reason being the presentation and gameplay was alot better, and it played more natural but after playing it solid for about a month you've pretty much seen all the dismissal types the games has to offer, as it keep repeating the same limited animations e.g. same catches, wicket keeper only takes cathes by diving, limited batting shots.

Wereas when i first played C2005 i admit i was crap at it due to the level of hardness, i kept on getting out. Then after trying to play a test match i start enjoying this game more, as it shows alot more realism towards real life cricket, ok so the animations aren't as clean as BLIC but there are a hell of alot more animations for one to see, numerous amounts of different slip cathes, edges to wicket keeper, and plenty of shots to play.

BLICs one player game life is very limited as the game isit challenging due to the CPU not taking singles or chasing scores accordingly, I only play this game now to 2 player action as this is were this game shines.

But for single player id choose c2005 :)
 
from what oyu potholes have put in it seems evident that you cannot play the game and it is difficult for you .
on the other hand i 'd side with you for the ball physics.

You also say that EA has emphasized on graphics and stufff.That is neccessary in a cricket game.If you do not want graphics go buy some thing like allan border's which is an equally good game without graphics.
Any how i am not here to fight just resting my opinions.
 
melucas said:
So you guys think that being able to hit most balls for 6, not being able to play backfoot shots and the player shimmying into position if he is not in line is authentic cricket. Maybe EA's game like the real game is too hard for you guys.
Cricket 2005 may not be the ultimate in a cricket sim but then again no game can replace the real thing. At least though it is a contest like the real game. If you try slogging from the start you will get out if you have patience you will score. As for it being slow and therefore boring I wouldn't think so. Being able to hit everyball in the middle is boring to me. At least EA use the real player names in all modes of play. I suppose that is unrealistic as well.
If you don't like the EA game maybe you should write in the blic forum rather than this one.
Just an opinion.
Cricket 2005 has a few problems but at least it is a challenge.
Do you think the game is difficult??? no way,it isnt..the original game without any patches is absurdly easy even in hard mode...if u play seriously u could score 500 runs in an ODI..dont tell me c2k5 is hard or realistic...and its not a necessity that u gotta like the ea game to post in this forum..those who want to see some improvement can also post here.
thanks rudy pooh..that was a good insight..
 
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I didn't say the game was difficult I said it was challenging.

You said
(c2k5 is a pathetic game without a doubt...no body can deny that)
I and many others on this forum would deny it.

You also said
(and its not a necessity that u gotta like the ea game to post in this forum..those who want to see some improvement can also post here.)

Your post doesn't call for improvement you just rubbish the game as pathetic which nobody can deny.

I would also dispute your 500 in a one dayer on hard mode without any patches.
That is unless you save after every over so you can restart after a wicket falls.
Did you actually score that or are you just assuming it can be done.
 
excuse me,but ur initial post was a comment on potholes's post and not on mine..my post might be blaming the game but his post was calling for improvement and thats wat i implied..and frnkly i m not patient enough to play 50 overs..i have played 30 overs in a 50 over game and i was standing at 290/2..and thts on my very 2nd game of c2k5 and without saves..
 

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