Don Bradman Cricket 17 General Discussion

[Hanny.]

How to download DBC17?

 

[Markkkkk]

*Looks through binoculars* I found one!

 

[kamrul]

I know license isn't a priority but obviously it feels good to have it there. Getting licenses from boards and ICC is really a tough thing to do. But how tough it is to license domestic leagues / t20 leagues ( Like Big bash or Ipl ) ?

 

[Biggs]

It's nothing to do with it being tough. It's more to do with it being expensive. ...and as mentioned many times now. EA is squatting on the ICC licence and England/Australia are still presumably locked into an agreement with He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

Licenses are irrelevant given the academy and any improvements that will be made therein.

 

[kamrul]

It's nothing to do with it being tough. It's more to do with it being expensive. ...and as mentioned many times now. EA is squatting on the ICC licence and England/Australia are still presumably locked into an agreement with He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

Licenses are irrelevant given the academy and any improvements that will be made therein.

By tough i meant expenses mainly. That's why was talking about getting the league licenses. These should be cheaper (i guess). I suppose having ACB/ECB licenses don't mean that they have the right to their domestic leagues also (may be i am wrong).

I do agree with the fact that academy is by far the best possible alternative for licenses. But it's an alternative. It's a matter of perception though. To you and may be most of the PC members Academy is better than having licenses. But BA studios doesn't make game for only the PC members. And their target market is craving for licenses and licenses sell more.

I am a huge fan of the academy. But it doesn't hurt to have both the Academy and some league licenses at least simultaneously. But obviously not at the cost of gameplay and other major things.

Licenses have less priority but it has priority.

 

[Biggs]

Totally disagree.

 

[Acid Burn]

If the Consoles can become part of the Modding scene , licences becomes totally unneccesary imo.

If it doesnt , it still has a place , as we are then effectively "locked out " of getting the real feeling of authentic kits etc.

On a side note , @MattW I really hope that all the little irritations regarding the Fielders and their lack of any awareness to basic Cricket rules also gets a good look in .

To name just a few (all when playing Online) :

1. Fielders having no sense of the boundary rope , and hence slides over it to field , or steps back over it when wanting to throw in.
2. Bowler allmost allways (when he gets to the wickets first) stopping direct hit attempts by catching the ball in front of the wickets.
3. Bowler or Keeper fields the ball being thrown in behind the wicket , but then gets "pushed" back by the ball for unknown reasons.
4. When the fielder of a throw doesnt get pushed back by the "force" of the throw (didnt know that was possible) , he takes ages to try and get the bails off.
   
5. Fielders not assisting each other with tap backs on the boundary , but then auto catches everything thrown from the boundary when it passes their field of influence .
6. And then the well known irritations , regarding last second warping to the final position , and the general weird ways of then actually catching the ball .

 

[mazd]

How to download DBC17?

Patiently wait till the end of the year then download steam and buy the Game. This usually works for me.

 

[blockerdave]

If the Consoles can become part of the Modding scene , licences becomes totally unneccesary imo.

If it doesnt , it still has a place , as we are then effectively "locked out " of getting the real feeling of authentic kits etc.

the problem with that, if modding isn't on consoles, is the game can date very quickly because new kits come out all the time.

i'm generally with @Biggs on the academy negating the need for licenses, but certainly i think we have to acknowledge the sheer scale of requests for licenses - even if largely from the "lcnz pls esp dhonu" crowd - suggests they have some value.

 

[Biggs]

I come down on licences being a negative more than a positive when it comes to teams. Here's why:

• It makes the teams uneditable. Generally, the kits are locked down and the squads are often locked as well - since the "official team" and rights holders, sponsors, etc don't want you messing around with their toys - especially removing sponsors who pay money to be on shirts.
• Lets say you can edit the team, but not the kit. The kits get outdated within a 2 years minimum - so you're either purchasing a new game entirely or hoping for DLC
• Should you gain access to editing the whole shibang - why purchase the license in the first place, if the end-user is going to change it anyway?
• PC users are going to either get access to, or hack/edit these elements and creating kits as we do now, whether supported or not, so again; the "team based licenses" become irrelevant.

The limited value I see in licenses are not team-related but kit-related. So legit equipment, bats, stumps and so on. I see revenue being able to be generated by rights holders to international tournaments being put in the game, ad-boards, replays and so on being sold for a more authentic experience. Perhaps even television and broadcast companies getting in on the action to license stuff like music, graphic overlays, commentators, competitions... all that and more...

 

[blockerdave]

I come down on licences being a negative more than a positive when it comes to teams. Here's why:

• It makes the teams uneditable. Generally, the kits are locked down and the squads are often locked as well - since the "official team" and rights holders, sponsors, etc don't want you messing around with their toys - especially removing sponsors who pay money to be on shirts.
• Lets say you can edit the team, but not the kit. The kits get outdated within a 2 years minimum - so you're either purchasing a new game entirely or hoping for DLC
• Should you gain access to editing the whole shibang - why purchase the license in the first place, if the end-user is going to change it anyway?
• PC users are going to either get access to, or hack/edit these elements and creating kits as we do now, whether supported or not, so again; the "team based licenses" become irrelevant.

The limited value I see in licenses are not team-related but kit-related. So legit equipment, bats, stumps and so on. I see revenue being able to be generated by rights holders to international tournaments being put in the game, ad-boards, replays and so on being sold for a more authentic experience. Perhaps even television and broadcast companies getting in on the action to license stuff like music, graphic overlays, commentators, competitions... all that and more...

i couldn't agree more with this. the only problem though, it relies on the users being educated as to why the academy and modding is better than licensing. unfortunately we've seen that just isn't the case for the majority even on this forum.

 

[MattW]

Well obviously those people are free to buy all those other cricket games which have all the licensing in them...

While it isn't a Big Ant owned game - the FanHub editing options in Rugby League Live 3, where there are some major licenses, is still very similar in scope to what is possible with the unlicensed players and teams. I don't know the detail of those licensing arrangements, but I would fairly confidently predict any licensing for Cricket would be negotiated with the intention of keeping the academy as open and flexible as it is now.

I personally see licensing for manufacturers and cricket boards as a mutually beneficial arrangement - making their product or sponsors visible to all the people playing the game.

On a side note , @MattW I really hope that all the little irritations regarding the Fielders and their lack of any awareness to basic Cricket rules also gets a good look in .

Certainly.

 

[Westindies]

we want a planner from matt with all the dates about what are the things that would be released and when and on which friday ..it will help us stop bugging him all the time that planner should have a hidden date at the end which is nothing but the release date

 

[MattW]

we want a planner from matt with all the dates about what are the things that would be released and when and on which friday ..it will help us stop bugging him all the time that planner should have a hidden date at the end which is nothing but the release date

And I want people to stop using 'we' when only speaking for themselves.

 

[mazd]

And I want people to stop using 'we' unnecessary 'emoticons' .