Don Bradman Cricket 17 General Discussion

[chintoo02018]

Ok. Any particular reason for doing so? Maybe for offline multi-player mode?

Yes Best for Offline multiplayer , but in current camera not possible to Play love to have same camera in DBC14

 

[Dutch]

Yes Best for Offline multiplayer , but in current camera not possible to Play love to have same camera in DBC14

*whacks scrotum with steak mallet*
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the......

 

[Markkkkk]

*whacks scrotum with steak mallet*
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the game,
Its not the......

But the graphics are so bad!

 

[MattW]

The cameras in the academy are not final.

 

[Stil]

This game is going to be amazing, so many improvements based specifically on community critiques and requests. So much more than you can say for the major sports game developers.

I fear the day when I'm familiar enough with cricket to nitpick little things that aren't 100% sim looking

 

[mani82ua]

@BigAntStudios @MattW its kind request can u plz give options in controller keys for batting for advance shot as its very difficult by using R3 to play advance shot as in dbc14 thats far easier and we are used to as well.
Kindly do check if its convenient by giving option in controller types i.e defualt as in dbc14 and new as current in dbc17, mainly in between Advance shot and precision shot as R3 with advance shot is very very hard to use.
Still Thanks for bringing such great game for us.

 

[balkeet]

The cameras in the academy are not final.

thank god, as i am in love with the far bowling camera in nets and hope it is used in game too for bowling, the current one in SCG goes a bit further till the middle of pitch while in nets it stays at the bowling crease and gives a much better satisfaction to watch the outcome of delivery.

 

[bestfriendh]

Kind of off-topic, but does Big Ant have any plans on doing a Metal Jacket Release for DBC17? I am still in love with my DBC14 one!

Also, is it possible to have a kick ball away kind of animation? I have been out numerous times in DBC14 with the ball hitting the body or pads, and then sloowly rolling and hitting the stumps.

Great stuff so far BigAnt, I am enjoying just looking at the videos people are posting.

 

[aabretz]

Is it Friday yet lol. Am almost scared for Fridays now cause with every update it makes me want the game more and more

 

[The_Pharoah]

Is it Friday yet lol. Am almost scared for Fridays now cause with every update it makes me want the game more and more

have a look at what 2k are doing with the upcoming NBA 2k release - its less than a month out and they're withholding info about whats coming and the community managers are being major dicks about it by taunting the players - so bad. Its slowly coming out now but man, maybe they should take a leaf out of BA's books re keeping customers informed.

 

[mani82ua]

@BigAntStudios @MattW , thanks for bring such great game for cricket lovers like us, i am using my one team ranking system created on xcel sheet for dbc14 for completed matches and series and i would like to share with u so if u have a look and think if its possible if youcan add such ranking system for game. i know u or many can make better than this one but its just try from my side and i cant find any problem so for calculating team rankings for my dbc14 played matches/series. Data is random.
Once again thanks for all your support for thinking to include any ranking system in upcoming game.

PS: Input the data (numbers) in MatchesPlayed, MatchesWon,MatchesLose,DrawTie,SeriesPlayed,SeriesWon,SeriesPoints,SeriesWhiteWash. Rest calculation done automatically.

 

[The_Pharoah]

and btw pharoah about that back foot cut shot
i've already written the post about the same but got drilled by many users viewing this thread
these things seems completely nonsense to some people
just let it be
most of the users are here only to hate the suggestions without giving a second thought to it

lol bugger them! that animation isn't right. Most (if not all) of us have played actual cricket and know what its like batting...that animation just isn't right. its a good compromise but it looks a bit weird. Look, at the end of the day its not a major issue at all, however BA are using the DB17 CA to test animations, controls, etc so its our job as beta testers (of sorts) to provide any feedback necessary..rightly or wrongly. We're all here for one thing - for DB17 to be THE best cricket game in the world (well...and for BA to make lots of $$ lol...more $$ = more development right?). I leave it up to the BA devs to decide whether its right or wrong.

Have a look at this...around the 0:55 mark:

THAT is how roughly how a back foot square cut should be animated. This is an even better video:

- see how the back foot goes back and sidewards - this allows the player to get lower.

In addition, I noted about the current back foot punch and how it looks...we still should have the back foot cover drive like this:

Compared to what we have now, its more a back foot shot but played more vertical than crouched.

 

[SibiNaayagam]

@BigAntStudios @MattW , thanks for bring such great game for cricket lovers like us, i am using my one team ranking system created on xcel sheet for dbc14 for completed matches and series and i would like to share with u so if u have a look and think if its possible if youcan add such ranking system for game. i know u or many can make better than this one but its just try from my side and i cant find any problem so for calculating team rankings for my dbc14 played matches/series. Data is random.
Once again thanks for all your support for thinking to include any ranking system in upcoming game.

PS: Input the data (numbers) in MatchesPlayed, MatchesWon,MatchesLose,DrawTie,SeriesPlayed,SeriesWon,SeriesPoints,SeriesWhiteWash. Rest calculation done automatically.

Did you use the same formula as the official ranking system?

 

[mani82ua]

official ranking system mean? m telecom guy and both has nothing similar, sometime ur passion makes u to do such things

 

[SibiNaayagam]

official ranking system mean? m telecom guy and both has nothing similar, sometime ur passion makes u to do such things

Below, is from a document I compiled...these points are from the official site.

Appendix H – Player & Team Rankings

v Player Ranking:

· Players are rated on a scale of 0 to 1000 points. If a player’s performance is improving on his past record, his points increase; if his performance is declining his points will go down.

· The value of each player’s performance within a match is calculated using an algorithm, a series of calculations (all pre-programmed) based on various circumstances in the match.

· All of the calculations are carried out using pre-programmed formulae, using the information published in a Test match scorecard. There is no human intervention in this calculation process, and no subjective assessment is made.

TEST MATCH RANKINGS:

For a batsman, the factors are:

Runs scored

· Ratings of the opposing bowling attack; the higher the combined ratings of the attack, the more value is given to the batsman’s innings (in proportion)

· The level of run-scoring in the match, and the team’s innings total; an innings of 100 runs in a match where all teams scored 500 is worth less than 100 runs in a match where all teams were bowled out for 200. And if a team scores 500 in the first innings and 200 in the second innings, a century in the second innings will get more credit than in the first innings (because the general level of run scoring was higher in the first innings)

Out or not out (a not out innings receives a bonus)

· The result. Batsmen who score highly in victories receive a bonus. That bonus will be higher for highly rated opposition teams (i.e. win bonus against the current Australia team is higher than the bonus against Bangladesh.)

For a bowler, the factors are:

Wickets taken and runs conceded

· Ratings of the batsmen dismissed (at present, the wicket of Kumar Sangakkara is worth more than that of Makhaya Ntini – but if Ntini's rating improves, the value of his wicket will increase accordingly)

· The level of run-scoring in the match; bowling figures of 3-50 in a high-scoring match will boost a bowler’s rating more than the same figures in a low-scoring match

· Heavy workload; bowlers who bowl a large number of overs in the match get some credit, even if they take no wickets;

· The result. Bowlers who take a lot of wickets in a victory receive a bonus. That bonus will be higher for highly rated opposition teams.


Bowlers who do not bowl in a high-scoring innings are penalized.

· The players’ ratings are calculated by combining their weighted performance in the latest match with their previous rating. This new ‘weighted average’ is then converted into points. Recent performances have more impact on a player’s rating than those earlier in his career, but all his performances are taken into account. A great player who has had a lean run of form will still have a respectable rating.

Players who miss a Test match for their country, for whatever reason, lose one per cent of their points.

· New players start at zero points, and need to establish themselves before they get full ratings. There is a scale for calculating qualifications. For example, a batsman who has played 10 Test innings gets 70 per cent of his rating (i.e. his rating will be between 0 and 700 points). He doesn’t get 100 per cent until he has played 40 Test innings. A bowler who has taken 30 wickets also gets 70 per cent of his full rating. He doesn’t get 100 per cent until he has taken 100 Test wickets. This means that successful new players can enter the top 30 after just a few Tests, but are unlikely to reach the world top five until they have many Test matches under their belts.


ONE-DAY RANKINGS:

· The principles behind the ODI Ratings are similar to those for the Test Ratings, with the following important differences:

· Batsmen gain significant credit for rapid scoring. They only get a small amount of credit for being not out (because a not out batsman is, by definition, batting at the end of the innings when the value of his wicket is low)

· Bowlers gain significant credit for economy. A bowler who bowls 10 overs 0-10 is likely to see his rating improve significantly, even though he hasn’t taken a wicket.

· Players lose only a half per cent (½%) of their points for missing a match for their country. All ODI matches are considered equal, except for ICC Cricket World Cup matches, where good performances gain extra credit. Big scores or wicket hauls against very weak nations get much less credit than the same performances against the main ODI countries.



v Team Ranking:

1. What is a rating?

A rating is worked out by dividing the points scored by the match/series total, with the answer given to the nearest whole number. It can be compared with a batting average but with points instead of total runs scored and a match/series total instead of number of times dismissed. After every Test series, the two teams receive a certain number of points, based on a mathematical formula. Each team's new points total is then divided by its new match/series total to give an updated rating. With batting averages, if you are dismissed in your next innings for more than your average, your average will increase. Conversely, scoring less than your average will cause it to fall. Similarly, under the Reliance ICC Test Championship method, the points earned from a Test win will always be more than the rating the team had at the start of the series. Equivalently, a team losing a Test match will always score fewer points than its rating. So a win will always boost a team's rating and a defeat will harm it. A draw between a higher and lower rated team will slightly benefit the rating of the lower rated team at the expense of the higher rated team. A draw between two similarly rated teams will leave both their ratings unchanged. A tied match is treated the same as a draw for rating purposes.

2. What does a particular rating signify?

A team that, over the period being rated, wins as often as it loses while playing an average mix of strong and weak opponents will have a rating of close to 100. A rating of 100 could also correspond to a side that wins more often than it loses but who has generally played more matches against weak teams. Similarly, if the majority of its matches are against strong teams, then a rating of 100 could be achieved despite having more defeats than victories. It is quite often the case that there are a number of teams in the 90-110 range. These teams are of broadly similar standard. A rating above 120 suggests consistently strong performances. Above 130 is rarely achieved and suggests a high degree of dominance over all other teams. In every match the total rating points available equals the sum of the initial rating of the two teams, so ratings can be thought of as being redistributed rather than created. There is therefore no 'inflation' in this rating system, so a rating of 120 suggests the same degree of superiority over opponents now as in the past or future, and a team can meaningfully compare its rating movements over time.

3. How quickly do ratings change?

The amount by which a rating improves after winning a Test will depend on the rating of the opponent. A win over a much stronger team (i.e. one with a much higher rating) boosts the rating more than beating a much weaker opponent. Conversely, losing to a much stronger team will not cause the rating to drop too far, but losing to a weaker side would. It is possible for a team to win a series yet for its rating to fall. This will happen if a stronger team wins a series but by a smaller margin than the respective ratings suggest should be the case. For example, when Australia played England in a five-Test series in 2002-03, Australia needed to win by a margin of at least three Tests just to maintain its very high rating.


4. How is the series result incorporated?

At the end of any series comprising two or more Tests, a series bonus will be awarded. Like an individual Test match, a series can be won, drawn (tied) or lost. For rating purposes, the series result is equivalent to the result of one further Test. To explain, suppose a team has just won a Test series. The series bonus can be regarded, for rating purposes, as if one extra Test has been played and won by the team that has just won the series. If a series finishes level, the series bonus is equivalent to the two teams playing an extra drawn Test.

5. What period does the table cover?

The table reflects all Test series completed since the annual update made three to four years previously. This pattern is repeated each May, with the oldest of the four years of results removed to be gradually replaced with results of matches played over the following twelve months. Thus once a year, the rankings will change overnight without any new Tests being played. This process, called updating the data, takes place at the start of May each year. This time has been chosen since it is usually a relatively quiet time in the international calendar. Before 2012, the annual update took place in August.

6. How are the results weighted?

All matches included within the Reliance ICC Team Rankings Tables will always fall into one of two time periods:

· Period One covers the earliest two years of matches

· Period Two covers all subsequent series, i.e. the past one to two years

Weightings are applied to these two groups of series so that the ratings more fully reflect recent form. The weightings are as follows:

· Period One matches have a weighting of 50 per cent.

· Period Two matches have a weighting of 100 per cent.

In the current table, series completed since last May receive a weighting of 100 per cent. After next May, the weighting of series being played now will remain at 100 per cent, while the weighting of series played in the previous year will fall to 50 per cent. The 'match/series total' column in the Reliance ICC Test Team Rankings table comprises a combination of individual Tests and series. This total along with the number of points earned in each period is multiplied by the weighting factor. For example, suppose a team played 20 Tests and six series in Period One, plus 15 Tests and five series in Period Two. The total matches played for rating purposes is 50 per cent of (20+6) plus 100 per cent of (15+5), which equals 33. (A small technical adjustment ensures that, for all teams, the total number of matches and rating points is always a whole number.)

7. How does the system compare with the current ODI rating method?

There are a number of similarities between the Reliance ICC Test Team Rankings table and the official Reliance ICC ODI Team Rankings table, and these are summarised as follows:

· The underlying formula that determines the number of points awarded to each team for its performance in an individual match is identical; so as with the ODI system it takes no account of the venue or margin of victory of any match.

· A rating of 100 reflects average performance, so a team winning and losing a similar number of matches and playing a broad mix of opponents will have a rating close to 100.

· The ratings are updated each May, whereby the weightings assigned to older matches are reduced.

· The new Reliance ICC Test Team Ranking differs from the official ODI rankings as follows:

· In addition to reflecting the performance in every Test, there is also a series bonus, carrying the same weight as one additional Test and awarded to the winner of a series of two or more matches.

· Test draws are treated in the same way as ties in ODIs, even though in character they may be more reminiscent of no results (especially if interrupted by bad weather); only Tests abandoned without a ball bowled would be excluded for rating purposes.

· The ratings are officially updated after each series rather than after each Test.