England in Australia

[ZexyZahid]

England made 157 runs in 61.1 overs.

Australia made 160-1 in 36 overs. :laugh

 

[sohum]

I don't recall the exact circumstances of the previous Ashes, but weren't England dealt a battering even then? Probably not as big a battering as they're going to get here.

 

[ZexyZahid]

Yeah, they lost with 239 runs.

http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2005/AUS_IN_ENG/SCORECARDS/AUS_ENG_T1_21-25JUL2005.html

So that's some hope for the English fans.

But I've got to say that I've never seen a team getting humiliated like this.

By stumps of day 3 Australia's lead is of 626.

 

[aussie1st]

I don't recall the exact circumstances of the previous Ashes, but weren't England dealt a battering even then? Probably not as big a battering as they're going to get here.

Lots of difference though, in that test they actually bowled us out for only 190, they also managed to bowl us out a 2nd time too. Here we have scored 600, just smashed past their 1st inns total for the lost of one wicket and theres much less reverse swing.

 

[angryangy]

Personally I don't like the follow-on. If it backfires, your bowlers are wrecked, your batsmen are more tired than they should be and you have to bat last. There are lots of great reasons to bowl last, one of them plays for Australia. I don't see the point of these sacrifices just to get a day off.

Obviously, in this situation they were more than a very good total in front, but just look at these guys showing England that it hasn't changed too much from day 1. You can still bat on it, it's not some sort of Gabba voodoo. It's a great pitch offering rewards for any player who plays well. It's just not carrying anyone who doesn't.

The situation has actually brought up conflicting arguments. Some say this increases the chance of a draw, while some say the game should have been over by tomorrow morning. If people can accept that England might be capable of batting out six sessions on a wearing and cracking pitch to form a draw, then surely they can accept that they can bat six sessions on a less aged pitch against a team that's already been in the field for two.

 

[adthomp]

far out talk about a overhyped missmatch

dunno about the follow on in Mark Taylor days he would have got it over with..

and theres always the chance of rain

 

[evertonfan]

Ahahaha, England are pathetic.

Oh i'm sorry, when was the last time you were ranked 2nd best Test side in the world?

Anderson has got to go. Not a test bowler at all. Bring in Plunkett. He seems to at least have good control from what I have seen of him.

Absolutley not. Plunkett hasn't played for ages and he's out of his depth at Test level.

I don't know why Australia batted again and I really, really hope it comes back to bite them in the arse. It won't though.

 

[Chimp132]

if they get rid of anderson, they should bring Mahmood in to generate some pace and a bit of batting lower down the order, slip him in instead of giles, get panesar, and theres your batting and bowling sorted out

 

[The_gas]

Guys this game is lost, just like lords. However we have shown we can come back, and boy will we need to.

I am never wrong.

 

[valvolux]

England's bowling attack is in real strife. Flintoff is bowling medium pace and Harmison only had a couple creep up over 140kmph. It looks a totally different pitch when Australia are bowling - I don't think England know where the cracks are....McGrath and Clark were hitting them 3/4 balls. Stuart Broad has to come in for Harmison, then you'll probably have to give Goughy a call for the 4th seamer.

 

[evertonfan]

Stuart Broad has to come in for Harmison, then you'll probably have to give Goughy a call for the 4th seamer.

Stuart Broad isn't in the squad and Gough is long retired.

 

[manee]

From the squad, the other options are Plunkett and Saj Mahmood and neither are particularly proven at any level. I want Harmison to get a one test rest because I do not want him to be ruined like Gillespie.

 

[rickyp]

I dont think it will help england that much if they rip out the structure of their team, one or two changes yes, but not destroy it. They have had a bad 3 days, which WILL turn into a bad 5, you can put all the money you like on that. But, the team should be made stronger from this, and maybe next test they will only lose by 600

 

[barmyarmy]

Ok, having seen both teams bowl on this pitch I'm beginning to think we should play two spinners. We can bowl Harmison in short spells as an impact bowler, likewise Flintoff and the bulk of the bowling should be done between Giles, Panesar and Hoggard. Giles may not be able to spin the ball but he's can at least keep the runs down and bowl defensively.
The only time we've had anything resembling control was when Flintoff and Giles were bowling. I don't think Giles should be in the team ahead of Panesar, and I've made my views clear on that, but he's still better than our final seamer; beit Anderson, Plunkett or Mahmood.

 

[nightprowler10]

Ok, having seen both teams bowl on this pitch I'm beginning to think we should play two spinners.

Do England even have two spinners in the squad?