Expert Cop Mafia - Mafia (ContrarianUmp) wins!

[Fake Passport]

Ok - I know I just suggested I was done, but there's now 2 votes against me.

Look, to be honest I agree that it's either Rudi or I. For the sake of completeness I'll illustrate the other options

- Someone or heaps have posted wrong results
- Zwarrior is mafia and done a great job of throwing it off him (It doesn't really work to well tho)
- it's scenario 1 and sodium is the mafia

Mainly as an act of self preservation. (1 person joins it's either him gone or a stalemate)
Lynch Rudi

 

[Gaurav_7]

Ump has 2 lynches while no lynch is also 2. We need zwarrior to decide...[DOUBLEPOST=1493122227][/DOUBLEPOST]Ump (2) - Sod, Rudi
Rudi (1) - Ump
NL (1) - asprin

 

[zwarrior]

Ok - I know I just suggested I was done, but there's now 2 votes against me.

Look, to be honest I agree that it's either Rudi or I. For the sake of completeness I'll illustrate the other options

- Someone or heaps have posted wrong results
- Zwarrior is mafia and done a great job of throwing it off him (It doesn't really work to well tho)
- it's scenario 1 and sodium is the mafia

Mainly as an act of self preservation. (1 person joins it's either him gone or a stalemate)
Lynch Rudi

You have every right not to trust me. Apart from asprin, all of us are under suspicion.

But why do you think heaps have posted wrong result ? Only mafia is the lone wolf. Rest 4 have no reason to lie.

 

[Fake Passport]

But why do you think heaps have posted wrong result ? Only mafia is the lone wolf. Rest 4 have no reason to lie.

my

That's true, and it's an outlier position. The only niggle I have is that Evil coming in late cemented asprin as a paranoid cop.
If evil is the mafia that is a play...

Like I've said, tomorrow well pretty much know. It will be impossible to substantially fake it with all the data of today and tomorrow...

 

[Targaryen]

I've read the analysis post by Z again and have noticed that no one have investigated him yet. And we don't know if he is true. He might've guessed me as Town and got it right when asprin(most likely a paranoid cop as I know my role and he has got opposite of it) called me Mafia. If ContUmp was the mafia then he would've called himself the town and would've investigated to call Rudi as mafia. But Rudi's investigation has made it clear that Ump is a town while he could've called himself the town and Ump as mafia to save himself. That clears other town members. Then remains two - Me and Z. As explained above, I'm surely the town aligned. So that leaves Z as Mafia.

Lynch: zwarrior
Closed.

 

[zwarrior]

my

That's true, and it's an outlier position. The only niggle I have is that Evil coming in late cemented asprin as a paranoid cop.
If evil is the mafia that is a play...

Like I've said, tomorrow well pretty much know. It will be impossible to substantially fake it with all the data of today and tomorrow...

I agree that tomorrow's data will be very interesting.

I was about to lynch you, but I saw sodium's first post on day 1. He said "Or we can role claim so that actual Mafia posts some other role and that two members with the same role has to justify to get saved. ".

@PresidentEvil can you explain this post of yours?

 

[zwarrior]

If ContUmp was the mafia the he would've called himself the town and would've investigated to call Rudi as mafia.

Can you explain again ? I didn't understand.

But Rudi's investigation has made it clear that Ump is a town while he could've called himself the town and Ump as mafia to save himself.

Same like above. Can you explain again ? And you said "he could've called himself the town" What do you mean by this ?

 

[Targaryen]

@PresidentEvil can you explain this post of yours

It was straight forward. Then I came to know that our actual role is not mentioned in the PM.

 

[Targaryen]

Can you explain again ? I didn't understand.

Same like above. Can you explain again ? And you said "he could've called himself the town" What do you mean by this ?

See, If ContUmp was the mafia,
He says, "I'm Townie (to save himself) and let me trap Rudi by calling him mafia". The investigation of Ump should've been that Rudi is mafia. As he knows he is the only mafia and others are cops then he'll be sure that other investigation will be in townies favour so he can't call them Mafia. So he say let Rudi be Mafia and let me say I'm Townie. But his investigation says exact opposite that Rudi is town. So he is favouring Rudi and will he put himself in trouble by calling someone else as Town and himself as Mafia?

Vice-versa in case of Rudi.

 

[zwarrior]

It was straight forward. Then I came to know that our actual role is not mentioned in the PM.

What do you mean by "Then I came to know that our actual role is not mentioned in the PM."

Our role was clearly mentioned in pm. You are a mafia. So, you didn't know that for us cops- only 'cop' is mentioned as our role. We didn't get role like 'sane cop', 'paranoid cop', etc , etc. We got our role as just 'cop'. . Sodium who is a mafia, didn't know that we cops, didn't get our complete role. he thought we got complete role and he told that we should roleplay so that if any role has double claimed, then one of them would be mafia. He is clearly wrong because we (cops) know that the role which we got is just 'cop'.

Guys I wish everyone see this post and understand this post from sodium. Also, see his post in page 1 after the day starts.

I will be travelling for 2 hours or so. Hence I will reply to all messages after that.

Lynch : PresidentEvil

 

[Targaryen]

What do you mean by "Then I came to know that our actual role is not mentioned in the PM."

Actual role means paranoid cop, sane cop, insane cop etc..

 

[Targaryen]

Sodium who is a mafia, didn't know that we cops, didn't get our complete role. he thought we got complete role and he told that we should roleplay so that if any role has double claimed, then one of them would be mafia. He is clearly wrong because we (cops) know that the role which we got is just 'cop

This should clear your doubts. I posted it few hours ago:

So we don't know our actual roles. I was in a mindset that we already had our actual roles but checked to see that only basic role is given. So that means we need to analyse the actual roles alongside determining who the mafia is.

Basic Role: Cop
Actual Role: Type of cop

 

[RUDI]

Why do you think someone is lying ?

Asprin or zwarrior or User2010

If you are not lying, then I am 100% sure it's either umpire or rudolph

Look, to be honest I agree that it's either Rudi or I.

You willingly say that you have a 50% chance of being Mafia, why?

My lynch stay.[DOUBLEPOST=1493124851][/DOUBLEPOST]

If you are not lying, then I am 100% sure it's either umpire or rudolph

Lynch : PresidentEvil

You are all over the place @zwarrior , please make up your mind.

 

[Fake Passport]

You willingly say that you have a 50% chance of being Mafia, why?

My lynch stay.

Noone here is an idiot. There is basically 2 'teams', you/I and zwarrior/evil. We are all in the same boat in that regard. That is with all the provisos of truth etc

I'm calling it mainly cause you are my number 1 suspect. Plus run the odd in terms ofn%ages, is almost no difference in it, especially considering the game almost resets tomorrow with all the new info...

 

[Targaryen]

You are all over the place @zwarrior , please make up your mind.

The main problem is that no one investigated him last night.