General Cricket Discussion

[icyman]

What magic worked for us in the WC? I tell you that is was Dhoni's brilliance that he instilled a belief in that side that they could still do a lot better and they just did.

A multi-team format where we were expected to sail until the QF for sure. In the QF we met Bangladesh who could pose any serious challenge to us. Ultimately knocked out by Australia- So, please don't go on about'some magic worked for us'- if it was magic, we ought to have won the Cup.

To elaborate further, Shashtri was given more powers just ahead of the CWC to dictate terms over a hapless Duncan Fletcher.

What could he do by staying in a series that was already lost? And he probably stepped down at the right time since India were going to have a long home season which can probably give the new Captain a lot of breathing space and give him time to figure out what works for him.

As per you, it is okay to walk away and leave the team in doldrums if the series is already lost??? By that logic, Babar Azam should step away from the Pak team and let his vice-captain take over ,cause the series is already lost. Any further losses wouldn't be on the captain's head then.

The point is, you cannot simply walk away without a proper handover. Was Kohli a part of the selection meets when the squad was chosen? If Kohli was to take ove,r you should have given him a squad of his choice, not a squad selected by that coward.

 

[Ashutosh.]

MSD won us many titles

MSD didn't win any title. India won many titles under his leadership.

the series where he ran off from the captain's post like a coward

So, the question here is- why did MSD drag himself in the game?

You are calling him a coward because he retired from the test cricket and on the other hand, you are questioning him for himself in ODIs and T20Is.

So, the question here is- why did MSD drag himself in the game? Why was he being a liability in the team? He lost the zing in a chase, stopped accelerating, dragged almost every game to the last over (except CSK ones) and created unnecessary pressure on his teammates.

In hindsight, had he retired after CWC 2015, India would have found enough time to groom the likes of Pant/Kishan/ Saha/DK for a proper role in CWC 2019. We all know what happened in the game v England, v Afghanistan (thankfully we won) and the semi-final v NZ.

India didn't try another WK until he remained captain. DK was inconsistent, Saha was a test specialist, Pant and Kishan didn't do enough until 2018 to be considered for the Indian team. Uthappa and Rahul should have been given chance but they were ignored.

Gambhir, Sehwag, Bhajji, Yuvraj

They all were dropped due to bad form. But when Dhoni's performance was worst (in 2018), "Dhoni has experience. We need Dhoni's experience in WC." What is the use of that experience if you can't win a single match for your team with the bat?

Even in the WC semi-final, I lost all hope after Jadeja's wicket. I had no expectations from Dhoni.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

A multi-team format where we were expected to sail until the QF for sure. In the QF we met Bangladesh who could pose any serious challenge to us.

We were not really having a great chance before that WC. You can see what happened to England. The same England team that humiliated us at The Gabba. We beat Pakistan and South Africa in that WC when hardly anyone expected us to do so.

I am sorry but you seem to be more emotionally driven with that Dhoni criticism. For me Ganguly was a better Captain than Dhoni but Dhoni had sharper mind when it came to tactics

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

They all were dropped due to bad form. But when Dhoni's performance was worst (in 2018), "Dhoni has experience. We need Dhoni's experience in WC." What is the use of that experience if you can't win a single match for your team with the bat?

MCG 2019 he scored 89 runs plus we did not have a better keeper than Dhoni.

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Babar Azam should step away from the Pak team and let his vice-captain take over ,cause the series is already lost. Any further losses wouldn't be on the captain's head then.

Babar was literally playing his 3rd series as Captain and he won Pakistan a series in SA. Dhoni had been in the job for 7 years!!!!

 

[Ashutosh.]

MCG 2019 he scored 89 runs plus we did not have a better keeper than Dhoni.

in 114 balls
Manish Pandey and Rahane can also do that.
Where is the best finisher? Has he ever scored 80 runs in 60 balls since 2016?
His strike rate is less than Virat, Rohit, and Shikhar.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

British peeps: England Fans
Aussie peeps: Australia Fans
Indian peeps: MSDians Club, Viratian Club, Rohitian Club Fans

 

[Ashutosh.]

Indian peeps: MSDians Club, Viratian Club, Rohitian Club Fans

I don't belong to any of them

 

[Life Warrior]

I don't belong to any of them

Gambhirians Club

 

[Ashutosh.]

Gambhirians Club

There is no such club. I am just a cricket fan.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

There is no such club. I am just a cricket fan.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Guys let us end the Dhoni debate. It doesn't matter anymore. He has retired now and no longer plays for India. He himself doesn't care about it anymore so for what are we arguing? If anyone wants to say anything further about Dhoni then go ahead and create another thread on this forum(I wouldn't want to have such a thing on this forum tbh) or create a troll page or a fan page about him on social media. This is a General Cricket Discussion thread and not a Dhoni thread!!!

 

[Till Valhalla]

Dhoni sucks

 

[icyman]

You are calling him a coward because he retired from the test cricket and on the other hand, you are questioning him for himself in ODIs and T20Is.

Mate, the manner in which he did isn't right. As a sitting captain, unless you are injured/ shot dead/ unable to play at all- I'd say complete the series ,then go home. Don't freaking run away mid-series.

India didn't try another WK until he remained captain. DK was inconsistent, Saha was a test specialist, Pant and Kishan didn't do enough until 2018 to be considered for the Indian team. Uthappa and Rahul should have been given chance but they were ignored.

Exactly my point. As captain, he could have given up the gloves to someone else- DK/ Saha/ Naman were the only alternatives who didnt quite have a long run.

Uthappa, Rahul are part-timers- wouldn't want them to keep anyway

Guys let us end the Dhoni debate. It doesn't matter anymore.

Agree!

 

[Jack7]

MS has a Retirement Home prepared in Earth's core.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

West Indies complete an absolute spanking of Australia.