ICC News: Restructuring the ICC, BCCI Influence & more

[Satan666]

When is the ICC meeting this month?

Not sure Andrew, think its been moved up to aometime in June. Unless you mean the BCCI SGM held for April 22nd which could see the return of N. Srinivasasn in governing capacity.

 

[Andrew17]

Not sure Andrew, think its been moved up to aometime in June. Unless you mean the BCCI SGM held for April 22nd which could see the return of N. Srinivasasn in governing capacity.

My prayers have been answered and the BCCI have been outvoted due to its usual friends being drawn to the attraction of a higher budget. The BCCI are threatening to boycott the Champions Trophy so hopefully the ICC doesn't give in to the greed and choose right from wrong

 

[Satan666]

My prayers have been answered and the BCCI have been outvoted due to its usual friends being drawn to the attraction of a higher budget. The BCCI are threatening to boycott the Champions Trophy so hopefully the ICC doesn't give in to the greed and choose right from wrong

Amazed myself, the BCCI era may finally come to an end.

Lmao let them pullout of the Champs trophy and play IPL all year around, in less than year the Indian public gonna cease support and they'll have to crawl back into the ICC

 

[ParkedTheBus]

Amazed myself, the BCCI era may finally come to an end.

Lmao let them pullout of the Champs trophy and play IPL all year around, in less than year the Indian public gonna cease support and they'll have to crawl back into the ICC

Not taking sides here but the ICC, BCCI and basically everyone else knows that India is pretty much the only reason why cricket hasn't become extinct yet. While the BCCI may not be something that the world of cricket needs or likes, the Indian market is definitely needed. And in this case, the BCCI holds the keys to the Indian market. And the Indian market will move towards where the marketable Indian players are - whether they're at the Champions Trophy, at the IPL or at their homes playing street cricket. The support will never cease.

Without India, the CT would be a massive failure from an economic point of view irrespective of the quality of cricket on display and the ICC will be completely aware of this. Why do you think every ICC event (or for that matter, even bilateral series) is set in a way so as to maximise India's chances of success? Might not be something that you like but it is what it is.

TL;DR: BCCI will thrive without ICC but the ICC needs BCCI to even think about existing. Do not want to sound arrogant but it's the cold, harsh truth.

 

[Satan666]

Not taking sides here but the ICC, BCCI and basically everyone else knows that India is pretty much the only reason why cricket hasn't become extinct yet. While the BCCI may not be something that the world of cricket needs or likes, the Indian market is definitely needed. And in this case, the BCCI holds the keys to the Indian market. And the Indian market will move towards where the marketable Indian players are - whether they're at the Champions Trophy, at the IPL or at their homes playing street cricket. The support will never cease.

Without India, the CT would be a massive failure from an economic point of view irrespective of the quality of cricket on display and the ICC will be completely aware of this. Why do you think every ICC event (or for that matter, even bilateral series) is set in a way so as to maximise India's chances of success? Might not be something that you like but it is what it is.

TL;DR: BCCI will thrive without ICC but the ICC needs BCCI to even think about existing. Do not want to sound arrogant but it's the cold, harsh truth.

Understood.

I rather see cricket completely dead as oppose to a bunch of crazed fanatics slogging a ball for 5 overs.

As far as am cocerned the only cricket going right now is the Pak/WI series, IPL could kiss my behind and anyone else supporting them.

 

[Satan666]

Understood.

I rather see cricket completely dead as oppose to a bunch of crazed fanatics slogging a ball for 5 overs.

As far as am cocerned the only cricket going right now is the Pak/WI series, IPL could kiss my behind and anyone else supporting them.

@ParkedTheBus sorry if I came across a bit rash but the fact is under the Big 3 model the associates/affiliate nations recd a cut in funding, the NZ/SL/WI boards are barely getting by. The truth of it all is that eventually test and maybe ODI cricket will die if the Indians continue to call the shots, there must be some level of control over these guys. There is already talks if reducing test mAtches to make way for the T20
Leagues. After 10'years of IPL the test and Odi players have evolved into sloggers!

 

[ParkedTheBus]

@ParkedTheBus sorry if I came across a bit rash but the fact is under the Big 3 model the associates/affiliate nations recd a cut in funding, the NZ/SL/WI boards are barely getting by. The truth of it all is that eventually test and maybe ODI cricket will die if the Indians continue to call the shots, there must be some level of control over these guys. There is already talks if reducing test mAtches to make way for the T20
Leagues. After 10'years of IPL the test and Odi players have evolved into sloggers!

Your points and concerns are completely understandable. No offence taken whatsoever. But the reality is that if it wasn't for India, the sport would simply cease to exist. The BCCI perhaps doesn't mean it, but it is the reason why other boards are still afloat. If it ever decides to say "alright, you guys can go your way and we'll go ours", top players from every other country will move to the IPL purely because of the money and fame on offer. International cricket will die in no time to a lack of participation. Worth keeping in mind that cricket as a sport is losing popularity in basically every country with the arguable exception of the subcontinental countries. Even in the subcontinental countries, the popularity of cricket is challenged by football and basketball.

This is a good read if you're interested: The battle for bronze | The Cricket Monthly | ESPN Cricinfo

A strong personal belief is that (franchise) T20 is the future of the game irrespective of what happens with the BCCI but the process will be quickened if the ICC decides to alienate the BCCI. What is destined to happen 15 years from this point will happen a couple of years from now. The sport's dependence on cricket can only be reduced by expanding the sport which can be done only by the shortest format of the game.

 

[Andrew17]

@ParkedTheBus sorry if I came across a bit rash but the fact is under the Big 3 model the associates/affiliate nations recd a cut in funding, the NZ/SL/WI boards are barely getting by. The truth of it all is that eventually test and maybe ODI cricket will die if the Indians continue to call the shots, there must be some level of control over these guys. There is already talks if reducing test mAtches to make way for the T20
Leagues. After 10'years of IPL the test and Odi players have evolved into sloggers!

Your points and concerns are completely understandable. No offence taken whatsoever. But the reality is that if it wasn't for India, the sport would simply cease to exist. The BCCI perhaps doesn't mean it, but it is the reason why other boards are still afloat. If it ever decides to say "alright, you guys can go your way and we'll go ours", top players from every other country will move to the IPL purely because of the money and fame on offer. International cricket will die in no time to a lack of participation. Worth keeping in mind that cricket as a sport is losing popularity in basically every country with the arguable exception of the subcontinental countries. Even in the subcontinental countries, the popularity of cricket is challenged by football and basketball.

This is a good read if you're interested: The battle for bronze | The Cricket Monthly | ESPN Cricinfo

A strong personal belief is that (franchise) T20 is the future of the game irrespective of what happens with the BCCI but the process will be quickened if the ICC decides to alienate the BCCI. What is destined to happen 15 years from this point will happen a couple of years from now. The sport's dependence on cricket can only be reduced by expanding the sport which can be done only by the shortest format of the game.

 

[Saroj padhy]

BCCI on the brink of pulling out from all ICC events in 2015-2023 cycle

 

[SaiSrini]

I know it might sound very unlikely and far fetched, but what are the options of another rebel Indian cricket board being formed and then being given official recognition by the ICC, in the event that the BCCI pulls out of the MPA? Ultimately it is the Indian audience and the market size which is giving BCCI the power to wag their tails so wildly. If BCCI goes to the extent of pulling out from the MPA and gets isolated from ICC events, then another cricket board (a similar private entity like the BCCI) can form up and then apply for official recognition with ICC. Once that happens, players who are contracted with BCCI can dump them and move over to the new entity which is now the "new cricket board of India"

Ultimately the power rests on the hands of the Indian cricket watching audience and the size of the audience. We want to watch Indian players play in international tournaments and that too in ICC tournaments. We can throw BCCI out of play if they continue throwing BS around like this.

Also another thing - the COA ('Committee of Administrators'; appointed by Indian Supreme Court to oversee BCCI functioning in the wake of the IPL scandals) has issued a veiled warning to the BCCI that any decision that it takes which hurt the interests of Indian cricket will be met with strong opposition and will be escalated to the Supreme Court. This means - the BCCI can easily get into waters where they are thrown out completely from handling Indian cricket and the Indian govt steps in. Instead of taking the $390 million that the ICC is offering, the BCCI can get to a place where they don't get a single rupee and the govt takes over Indian cricket and dumps this "private entity which refuses to conform to the RTI act" called BCCI.

Any which way, Indian cricket is all set for a very turbulent period starting from now till the next 2-3 years. Hope something really good comes out of it. We could also see the death of Indian cricket where it goes the Indian hockey way. BCCI and all these people need to understand - if the Indian public gets disgusted with you and all these dramas and they lose interest in cricket and move onto other sports, YOU'LL BE DEAD AND BURIED no matter what.

 

[CerealKiller]

I know it might sound very unlikely and far fetched, but what are the options of another rebel Indian cricket board being formed and then being given official recognition by the ICC, in the event that the BCCI pulls out of the MPA? Ultimately it is the Indian audience and the market size which is giving BCCI the power to wag their tails so wildly. If BCCI goes to the extent of pulling out from the MPA and gets isolated from ICC events, then another cricket board (a similar private entity like the BCCI) can form up and then apply for official recognition with ICC. Once that happens, players who are contracted with BCCI can dump them and move over to the new entity which is now the "new cricket board of India"

Ultimately the power rests on the hands of the Indian cricket watching audience and the size of the audience. We want to watch Indian players play in international tournaments and that too in ICC tournaments. We can throw BCCI out of play if they continue throwing BS around like this.

Also another thing - the COA ('Committee of Administrators'; appointed by Indian Supreme Court to oversee BCCI functioning in the wake of the IPL scandals) has issued a veiled warning to the BCCI that any decision that it takes which hurt the interests of Indian cricket will be met with strong opposition and will be escalated to the Supreme Court. This means - the BCCI can easily get into waters where they are thrown out completely from handling Indian cricket and the Indian govt steps in. Instead of taking the $390 million that the ICC is offering, the BCCI can get to a place where they don't get a single rupee and the govt takes over Indian cricket and dumps this "private entity which refuses to conform to the RTI act" called BCCI.

Any which way, Indian cricket is all set for a very turbulent period starting from now till the next 2-3 years. Hope something really good comes out of it. We could also see the death of Indian cricket where it goes the Indian hockey way. BCCI and all these people need to understand - if the Indian public gets disgusted with you and all these dramas and they lose interest in cricket and move onto other sports, YOU'LL BE DEAD AND BURIED no matter what.

That would be the "get out of jail" card for cricket. It could be the saviour, in case the BCCI exits the ICC.

 

[Satan666]

I know it might sound very unlikely and far fetched, but what are the options of another rebel Indian cricket board being formed and then being given official recognition by the ICC, in the event that the BCCI pulls out of the MPA? Ultimately it is the Indian audience and the market size which is giving BCCI the power to wag their tails so wildly. If BCCI goes to the extent of pulling out from the MPA and gets isolated from ICC events, then another cricket board (a similar private entity like the BCCI) can form up and then apply for official recognition with ICC. Once that happens, players who are contracted with BCCI can dump them and move over to the new entity which is now the "new cricket board of India"

Ultimately the power rests on the hands of the Indian cricket watching audience and the size of the audience. We want to watch Indian players play in international tournaments and that too in ICC tournaments. We can throw BCCI out of play if they continue throwing BS around like this.

Also another thing - the COA ('Committee of Administrators'; appointed by Indian Supreme Court to oversee BCCI functioning in the wake of the IPL scandals) has issued a veiled warning to the BCCI that any decision that it takes which hurt the interests of Indian cricket will be met with strong opposition and will be escalated to the Supreme Court. This means - the BCCI can easily get into waters where they are thrown out completely from handling Indian cricket and the Indian govt steps in. Instead of taking the $390 million that the ICC is offering, the BCCI can get to a place where they don't get a single rupee and the govt takes over Indian cricket and dumps this "private entity which refuses to conform to the RTI act" called BCCI.

Any which way, Indian cricket is all set for a very turbulent period starting from now till the next 2-3 years. Hope something really good comes out of it. We could also see the death of Indian cricket where it goes the Indian hockey way. BCCI and all these people need to understand - if the Indian public gets disgusted with you and all these dramas and they lose interest in cricket and move onto other sports, YOU'LL BE DEAD AND BURIED no matter what.

I made a similar post in another thread alluding to the BCCI/ICC unholy alliance to have the COA removed, its being talk about througout the cricketing world.


I take issue with you speaking of the Indian public only, just remember in order for you all to generate money you stilll need to play in the WI/AUS and you still need to have Eng/SA come to India and play. World cricket will continue without India and the continued damnation of the Associate/Affiliates will stop! You really want zero contribution to the Associates? Yall make me sick!

 

[Satan666]

Also the its a turbulent time for India as a whole as the Supreme Court is involved in this matter.

After all that is said and done no one wants to see another isolation like South Africa but it may be the best thing at this point for Team India!

 

[Andrew17]

Shashank Manohar staying with the ICC until 2018! Can we please just sort out the bloody BCCI holding the funds hostage and then we can complete the international structures of all three formats? That will be Manohar's legacy by (In my opinion) saving cricketing boards who deserve a properly structured schedule like Bangladesh and having more equal funding and opportunities for all countries who are interested in playing cricket. It will be a shame if the BCCI collapses due to its own arrogance and greed and is overthrown by a more equal and understanding board who aren't actually leading cricket to its prolonged demise in the far away future.

 

[SaiSrini]

Good to hear that Manohar is staying on. Right thing to happen at this time as he is one of the prime architects wielding the iron fist against BCCI, forcing them to adapt to the new model.