ICC World T20 India 2016 - March/April 2016

[War]

Was thinking how certain teams could line up and overall having a re-think it looks closer than i thought between SA/WI/AUS/NZ/ENG

for IND although Ashwin/Jadeja/Misha might play & have wickets to suit I concur with previous point made that their batting is not deadly enough to maybe give the spin trio enough runs to play with, PAK & SRI similar bat vs ball balance dynamic

AUS:

Warner, Finch, Smith, Watson, Maxwell, Wade, Faulkner O'Keefe, Lyon, Bollinger, Cummins

subs: S Marsh/Lynn, M Marsh, Coulter-Nile, Hazlewood/Pattinson

ENG:

Roy, Hales, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Rashid, Wiley, Finn, Wood

subs: Billings, Taylor, Jordan, Topley

WI:

Gayle, Simmons, Samuels, Ramdin, Pollard, DW Bravo, Russell, Sammy, Narine, Taylor, Badree

subs: Fletcher, Holder, Rampaul, Santokie

SA:

De Villiers, Amla, De Plessis, Duminy, Behardien, Miller, A Morkel, Morris, Steyn, Rabada, Tahir

subs: De Kock, Roussow, M Morkel, T Shamsi/Leie

NZ:

Guptil, McCullum, Williamson, Taylor, Anderson, Neesham, Ronchi, Santner, McCullum, Southee, Bolt

subs: Elliot, Munroe McClenegan, Milne

 

[_Sam_]

ENG:

Roy, Hales, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Rashid, Wiley, Finn, Wood

subs: Billings, Taylor, Jordan, Topley

Think Plunkett may as well give up on his international career if he doesn't get in the wt20 squad given how well he went against Pakistan. Also tough to leave out Woakes and another tough decision may be needed if Broad goes. Do expect to see Vince over Taylor though given his exploits in the UAE even if he didn't really do much on the lions tour.

Isnt Starc out of the t20wc as well?

 

[War]

Think Plunkett may as well give up on his international career if he doesn't get in the wt20 squad given how well he went against Pakistan. Also tough to leave out Woakes and another tough decision may be needed if Broad goes. Do expect to see Vince over Taylor though given his exploits in the UAE even if he didn't really do much on the lions tour.

Isnt Starc out of the t20wc as well?

Thanks one of good things about ENG ATM when picking this squad, you can very well and make cases for Plunkett, Woakes, Broad, Vince, Bairstow being picked. And yea I forgot Starc was ruled out, not sure If I can point out a certain replacement ATM - performances in Big Bash will decide that..

 

[PokerAce]

Was thinking how certain teams could line up and overall having a re-think it looks closer than i thought between SA/WI/AUS/NZ/ENG

for IND although Ashwin/Jadeja/Misha might play & have wickets to suit I concur with previous point made that their batting is not deadly enough to maybe give the spin trio enough runs to play with, PAK & similar bat vs ball balance dynamic

Where are you getting spinning tracks for T20s from? In India T20s are played on flat wickets. Batting paradises. IPL for years on end now has produced flat wickets. Now yes spinners are going to get more help than seamers, its just the nature of the soil, but its a batting first wicket. India are unlikely not going to play 3 spinners.

It will be (I assume) Ashwin and Jadeja, and with Yuvraj building a very strong case for his recall in domestic limited overs cricket, perhaps Yuvraj chipping in.

I think you are confusing India with Bangladesh where in the previous edition there was definite help for the spinners. Not in India though, the T20 wickets will be flat and unless the spinner is very high quality, he is unlikely to have much say in the proceedings. Ashwin is quality enough to be effective, I dont know about Jadeja in T20 with the ball.

As spinners go barring Ashwin and Shakib, I doubt any spinner can have much influence. Most games will be in the high 170 avg runs scored bracket.

 

[War]

Where are you getting spinning tracks for T20s from? In India T20s are played on flat wickets. Batting paradises. IPL for years on end now has produced flat wickets. Now yes spinners are going to get more help than seamers, its just the nature of the soil, but its a batting first wicket. India are unlikely not going to play 3 spinners.

It will be (I assume) Ashwin and Jadeja, and with Yuvraj building a very strong case for his recall in domestic limited overs cricket, perhaps Yuvraj chipping in.

I think you are confusing India with Bangladesh where in the previous edition there was definite help for the spinners. Not in India though, the T20 wickets will be flat and unless the spinner is very high quality, he is unlikely to have much say in the proceedings. Ashwin is quality enough to be effective, I dont know about Jadeja in T20 with the ball.

As spinners go barring Ashwin and Shakib, I doubt any spinner can have much influence. Most games will be in the high 170 avg runs scored bracket.

Yes I'm much aware of the batting paradises in IPL & we are likely to see much of that in WC. I guess i'm more inferring they might have some surfaces that will allow IND to play 3 spinners - but if it doesn't it just makes their overall chances of doing well less likely of course.

 

[Markkkkk]

If Albie Morkel goes I'd bet my house on winning the whole tournament...

 

[PokerAce]

Yes I'm much aware of the batting paradises in IPL & we are likely to see much of that in WC. I guess i'm more inferring they might have some surfaces that will allow IND to play 3 spinners - but if it doesn't it just makes their overall chances of doing well less likely of course.

Yeah I have been saying this already ... India right now are not among the favorites for any Limited Overs trophy. Too inconsistant and too unsettled. A great deal of improvement will be required between now the start of the tournament.

 

[zwarrior]

• I agree. India's current batting line up is no good which was very commendable few years ago. Mainly because players like Kohli, Raina and Dhoni are not playing at their best.
• Dhoni and Kohli were very consistent and a little support from Raina was helping India.
• But, now Kohli is not playing well like he used to do before and so is Dhoni. Raina never improvises his batting which is very disappointing. I don't understand his problem. He plays well only in IPL. And Rohit is inconsistent and Dhawan is not in form.
• I hope they replace Raina with Yuvraj. We don't have any hard hitter in Indian team. So, I would like to see Yusuf Pathan for T20 world cup as he is a destructive batsmen. We need batsmen like him in the T20 format. He can hit shots from ball 1. In last ipl season, he played sensibly which he never did before. He is a handy bowler too. Also, they should bring in Uthappa and replace him with Dhawan. Uthappa is performing brilliantly as an opener. He opened in IPL and also for domestic(except this season).
• But, certainly we will not see Uthappa or Yusuf in team, sadly. And Raina won't be dropped too. So, only thing I hope is, they bring in Yuvraj.

 

[bigred]

Was thinking how certain teams could line up and overall having a re-think it looks closer than i thought between SA/WI/AUS/NZ/ENG

for IND although Ashwin/Jadeja/Misha might play & have wickets to suit I concur with previous point made that their batting is not deadly enough to maybe give the spin trio enough runs to play with, PAK & SRI similar bat vs ball balance dynamic

AUS:

Warner, Finch, Smith, Watson, Maxwell, Wade, Faulkner O'Keefe, Lyon, Bollinger, Cummins

subs: S Marsh/Lynn, M Marsh, Coulter-Nile, Hazlewood/Pattinson

ENG:

Roy, Hales, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Rashid, Wiley, Finn, Wood

subs: Billings, Taylor, Jordan, Topley

WI:

Gayle, Simmons, Samuels, Ramdin, Pollard, DW Bravo, Russell, Sammy, Narine, Taylor, Badree

subs: Fletcher, Bishoo, Rampaul, Holder

SA:

De Villiers, Amla, De Plessis, Duminy, Behardien, Miller, A Morkel, Morris, Steyn, Rabada, Tahir

subs: De Kock, Roussow, M Morkel, T Shamsi/Leie

NZ:

Guptil, McCullum, Williamson, Taylor, Anderson, Neesham, Ronchi, Santner, McCullum, Southee, Bolt

subs: Elliot, Munroe McClenegan, Milne

I'd be amazed if England pick Finn and Wood seeing as they've played no part in limited overs cricket this winter. One of them may play. Probably Finn as he's the only one of the two currently fit. They'll probably prefer either Woakes, Plunkett or Jordan to Wood. Most likely Woakes in my opinion.

If those squads are relatively accurate then I think that West Indies and South Africa will be hard to beat. But I don't think that India, England, NZ and the Aussies are too far behind. I don't give Sri Lanka or Pakistan a chance, despite the former being the reigning champs.

 

[PokerAce]

• I agree. India's current batting line up is no good which was very commendable few years ago. Mainly because players like Kohli, Raina and Dhoni are not playing at their best.
• Dhoni and Kohli were very consistent and a little support from Raina was helping India.
• But, now Kohli is not playing well like he used to do before and so is Dhoni. Raina never improvises his batting which is very disappointing. I don't understand his problem. He plays well only in IPL. And Rohit is inconsistent and Dhawan is not in form.
• I hope they replace Raina with Yuvraj. We don't have any hard hitter in Indian team. So, I would like to see Yusuf Pathan for T20 world cup as he is a destructive batsmen. We need batsmen like him in the T20 format. He can hit shots from ball 1. In last ipl season, he played sensibly which he never did before. He is a handy bowler too. Also, they should bring in Uthappa and replace him with Dhawan. Uthappa is performing brilliantly as an opener. He opened in IPL and also for domestic(except this season).
• But, certainly we will not see Uthappa or Yusuf in team, sadly. And Raina won't be dropped too. So, only thing I hope is, they bring in Yuvraj.

Ideal World T20 line up for me -

Rohit
Rahane
Kohli
Yuvraj
Raina
Dhoni
Jadeja
Ashwin
Harbhajan
Bhuvi/Aaron
Umesh

Extras - Yusuf, Manish Pandey, Kedar Jadav, Mishra

 

[zwarrior]

Ideal World T20 line up for me -

Rohit
Rahane
Kohli
Yuvraj
Raina
Dhoni
Jadeja
Ashwin
Harbhajan
Bhuvi
Mohit

Extras - Yusuf, Manish Pandey, Kedar Jadav, Mishra

Only change I would make is, pick Shami instead of Mohit. India need some good bowling in the end. Mohit is as bad as Bhuvi. Shami would be ideal in this situation. My line up is-

Rohit
Rahane
Kohli
Yuvraj
Yusuf
Dhoni
Jadeja
Ashwin
Harbhajan
Bhuvi
Shami
Extras- Raina-(replace Yusuf), Mishra-(replace Bhajji), Uthappa-(Opener or in the Yusuf spot), Rishi Dhawan-(replace Jadeja) .

i know Rishi Dhawan hasn't made his debut yet and he won't be in world cup too. But, I chose him as he is fast bowling all rounder and he has impressed me a lot.

 

[SaiSrini]

Witch hunt ? Really ? The guy is getting what he deserves, and not enough to be honest.

Agree with this. And this has everything to do with the Chennai stadium. You are just looking at it a bit differently. If any other stadium had three of its stands closed off for such a long period of time, they would have been struck off the international calendar a long time ago. Chennai stadium was allowed to function because Srini was at the helm of affairs.

It really does make for sorry viewing when you are holding a world class event and three of the stands are empty and fenced off.

I dont care if the individual is being hunted down. But the state/city should not pay for his actions. First the removal of Chennai completely from IPL, then the non-allowance of Chennai to host a men's game in the T20 WC all points to a conspiracy to disallow the state/city because of this one guy. Trust me, we ourselves are embarrassed of having NSR amongst us.

I frankly find it funny that people give so much of importance to some stands looking empty for the TV audience. There is a tussle going on about those stands. Tamil Nadu Muncipality Corporation argues that those stands did not get the necessary permission to be constructed and they are in conflict with the safety standards. Just because a few stands look empty on TV, you see at it as a prestige issue and not offer a game to the city? That sounds ridiculous.

How can Chennai have a game ... its still recovering from the floods. Surely there is no way Chennai could have hosted a World T20 game.

The World T20 is March 2016. Chennai has already recovered substantially and normal life has already been restored (we have even started bathing film star's cutouts in milk since yesterday, as per our regular tradition). In a few weeks, even low lying areas should be back to normal. March is like 3 months away. And Chennai is hosting a women's World T20 game, so the floods can't be the issue.

Ideal World T20 line up for me -

Rohit
Rahane
Kohli
Yuvraj
Raina
Dhoni
Jadeja
Ashwin
Harbhajan
Bhuvi/Aaron
Umesh

Extras - Yusuf, Manish Pandey, Kedar Jadav, Mishra

I highly doubt Yuvraj has any international career left. Also keep in mind, it was only last tournament where Yuvraj had his famous meltdown in the final to cost India the chance to lift their second T20 World Cup. I am damn sure the selectors won't have him in mind. We already have an ageing Dhoni. We can't carry around another guy like that.

I like the idea of three spinners. That way, the reliance of seamers is diminished. But I hope Shami is available. If he is, he and Umesh should be the two seamers. The third seamer (if needed) can be Bhuvi. I hope Dhoni does not go for Mohit. I have zero hopes in him.

 

[PokerAce]

I highly doubt Yuvraj has any international career left. Also keep in mind, it was only last tournament where Yuvraj had his famous meltdown in the final to cost India the chance to lift their second T20 World Cup. I am damn sure the selectors won't have him in mind. We already have an ageing Dhoni. We can't carry around another guy like that.

I like the idea of three spinners. That way, the reliance of seamers is diminished. But I hope Shami is available. If he is, he and Umesh should be the two seamers. The third seamer (if needed) can be Bhuvi. I hope Dhoni does not go for Mohit. I have zero hopes in him.

The thing is I am thinking you dont have an update on Yuvraj's domestic form. He is scored at a Strike Rate of 98 and averages 80+ after 5 games. So while I would have agreed that that Yuvraj is done, but his domestic resurgence is encouraging and its clear that the limited overs side needs work. So if Yuvraj has got his head down to scoring again, I would find it hard to ignore him for a recall.

 

[Abhil]

I think England might win this. They've got a good draw as I think that India, Australia and New Zealand are the favourites.

hahahah what a joke ...Eng can win t20 wc and that to in India .I don't think so.South Africa is the no1 fav to win it in my view keeping in view their recent performance in India.They can do well on every pitch.After that i will keep India,Pakistan and Srilanka to win this.Australia might reach final.Nz also can reach semis.But SA,Ind,Pak & Srilanka have chance of making it to the top next year.

 

[bigred]

hahahah what a joke ...Eng can win t20 wc and that to in India .I don't think so.South Africa is the no1 fav to win it in my view keeping in view their recent performance in India.They can do well on every pitch.After that i will keep India,Pakistan and Srilanka to win this.Australia might reach final.Nz also can reach semis.But SA,Ind,Pak & Srilanka have chance of making it to the top next year.

You didn't watch t20 series between Pakistan and England in UAE then? 3-0 to England. Pakistan were a shambles. Look at the form guide my friend.