ICC World T20 India 2016 - March/April 2016

[_Sam_]

Nagpur producing a poor pitch shouldn't surprise anyone. We already saw it with the pitch in the SA test series and of the warmup games and first round it was by far the worse pitch compared to the other venues.

Hopefully we don't see repeats of this. This is not what we want to watch when it comes to 20/20 cricket.

Good win for the Black Caps. All the pressure on India now.

To be honest today wasn't a poor pitch with the variable bounce we saw in the test series, as Atherton said on sky after the game it was just a pitch that some may not consider suited to T20 cricket however that's down to what you watch it for.

 

[bigred]

Do some of the Indian fans who gave me a hard time for saying 'the pitches would be awful in this WC' want to apologise? Glad it backfired on them. Good on NZ.

 

[stefan]

To be honest today wasn't a poor pitch with the variable bounce we saw in the test series, as Atherton said on sky after the game it was just a pitch that some may not consider suited to T20 cricket however that's down to what you watch it for.

T20 cricket is about entertainment and runs. This pitch is not suitable for this form of the game. When one side only barely manages 120 and the other falls well short of 100 then there is something wrong.

Do some of the Indian fans who gave me a hard time for saying 'the pitches would be awful in this WC' want to apologise? Glad it backfired on them. Good on NZ.

We should be fair and not judge the whole tournament on nagpur. Lets give mombai and the rest a chance first.

 

[bigred]

T20 cricket is about entertainment and runs. This pitch is not suitable for this form of the game. When one side only barely manages 120 and the other falls well short of 100 then there is something wrong.



We should be fair and not judge the whole tournament on nagpur. Lets give mombai and the rest a chance first.

No I'm sorry. It's horrid to watch. Give me a tournament in Australia, South Africa or England any day.

 

[War]

Not sure if this is general view here, but I've seen some in the media suggest India is favourites and I'm struggling to see how - even with home advantage. This IND team doesn't have that same, what can I say - home team power strength like the 2011 W-Cup team that you thought from early they could win it if things go perfect for them IMO.

I would say AUS/IND/SA/NZ/WI/ENG are well balanced for this format and due to the usual unpredictability of this format on a given day any of those 6 can beat each other on a given day and win this tournament.

PAK/SRI aren't that well balanced that's why I don't include them - right now Bangladesh seems more secure than both.

To note what I said earlier.

While I didn't think India was favourites at all and always backed NZ to win today, I didn't think they game would play out the way it did of course.

 

[Aalay]

It's hilarious to see people are writing off India after 1 game.

 

[Pinch hitter]

It really a bold move from NZ side to play with 3 spinners and it pay off... they beat favorites India... well done...
Winning toss is too important in this match... both team know that, batting 2ND going to be impossible task...

 

[Chewie]

India are still favourites. Indian fans turn way too quick on their teams.

India should beat Pak and Bang and will get another win to propel them into the knockout stages.

It's so funny how little confidence people have in their own team sometimes

 

[grkrama]

Im pretty sure calling your team as the one and only favourites isnt the only way to show support to the team,

tbh its ridiculous to even talk about favourites in t20, but to just round on one team despite home advantage form is even more ridiculous which is what most fans are saying, that hey after articles like these you know waht we may not be walking with the cup after all!

Also regarding pitch its not your typical t20 wkt but that doesnt make it bad, i just see lack of application from batsman, ya you are not going to score 200 on this but does every t20 pitch have to be a belter ? [HASHTAG]#PowerTopitchWhiners[/HASHTAG]



I will say it again its best to eat humble pie early in the tourny than later! This will charge the team for the coming games!

 

[icyman]

First up, a good shake-up for the establishment and especially to Ravi Shashtri. India is back to it's old times by losing the first match, heavily and is now trying to play catch up.

Losing a game is one thing, but losing without a fight is what sets the fans off. A chase of 127 should've been easily managed, but alas, New Zealand got the better of us today.

I've been saying for a while that Rohit Sharma is a good for nothing flat track bully and he's proven it yet again today. If the pitch shows a little bit of movement, we are all over the place. The middle order which I had predicted would be problematic has yet again shown it's class with the feeble attempts of Raina, Yuvraj & the Indian Shahid Afridi (Hardick Pandya). Other than Virat, Dhoni & Ashwin, none of the batsmen showed their willingness to stay put for long. The manner in which India lost has demoralized a lot of people and I wouldn't be surprised if the team struggles to make the semis in a tough group.

Secondly, the pitch factor- Nagpur had been rated as a poor pitch by the ICC a few months ago. I agree, it was a testing wicket, but it's not ideal for T20 cricket. I'd rate it similar to the ones used in Bangladesh recently.

Thats ridiculous that Dhoni said that its not their bowling unit , they lost because of their weak batting. Yeah India's batting is weak but we can't say that NZ bowlers has no effect.
Bhajji deserved a chance today.
Part timers bowling for india while the most experienced spinner warming the bench.

And Indian batsman did nothing today.

Just a correction here; the batting isn't weak. They played pathetically. On other day, had they applied themselves, the same line-up could've won this match.

Bhajji ?- IMO, he doesn't deserve a spot in the 15. Part timers who bowled for India did a good job at keeping the run rate in check and kept on taking regular wickets.

I agree with your last point- our batsman did nothing today. Having said that, I do find the form of our openers a bit worrisome, given the last few innings.

 

[Arindam98]

I was very ill yesterday and didn't watch India's batting, but when I heard in the morning that India had lost in such a terrible fashion, I was sooooo happy.
Dhoni was whining about the bowling-friendly pitches in Bangladesh, saying that they were not ideal for T20. Then this hypocrite comes back home and gets a freaking rank turner prepared for a T20 game, just so that they can neutralise New Zealand. I'm really, really happy that his cunning plan backfired and he looks like a massive fool now.
I hope they lose all their matches, except against Pakistan and Bangladesh.

People are joking on FB that very soon, we'll hear the news of Nathan McCullum and other NZ bowlers being under the scanner for "suspect action."

Btw, the hindi commentary is so atrocious! They have some of the worst commentators and analysts in the world (other than Sidhu). One doesn't enjoy their commentary, but endures it.

Aakash Chopra- Very biased, uses cliches, insults other teams at every opportunity (even though they are all better players than him), overhypes India, doesn't let anyone else speak and gives his opinion on every single thing, and over-analyzes everything.
VVS Laxman- Equally biased and talks about things like degrees, foot placement, head placement, seam position, release position etc. WAY too much. And that horrible accent. Only saving grqce is that he was actually a good player back in the day.
Kapil Dev- All the more respect for Kapil paaji as a player and person, but his commentary is super-boring. He has about 10 lines total, which he uses over and over again. Examples: "bade hi <urdu word> se shot mara," "jitni tareef ki jaye kam hai," "jo team behtar khelegi, woh match jeetegi" etc.
Jatin Sapru- Basically, a mini-Aakash Chopra, although not nearly as obnoxious. Thankfully, he is just the host, so no one takes him seriously. Wasn't he the one calling NZ's victory an "upset" yesterday?
Virender Sehwag- No change in tone or volume, doesn't react to anything in an excited way, and speaks too slow. It was his first day on the job though, and was paired with almighty Aakash Chopra, so I'll cut him some slack.
Mohammad Kaif- I don't mind his commentary much, but he is extremely unlucky for India. There was only one occasion I witnessed, when he was on commentary and India didn't lose. Still, best of the worst.
Wasim Akram- Good commentator, but they only bring him along to make him show the audience how to bowl reverse swings, in every match.
I wish they included Shoaib Akhtar and Ganguly, and I'm hoping to listen to Murali Kartik and Deep Das Gupta soon. Those are the only few I like listening to.
The English commentary panel featuring the likes of Harsha Bhogle, Rameez Raja, Gavaskar, Laxman (again), Athar Ali Khan (worst non-hindi commentator in the world), Isha Guha (strongest accent since Mark Nicholas), Russell Arnold, Scott Styris etc. isn't anything special either... but many times better than the Hindi commentary team.

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[Ohm]

Its time we realize how poor our batting is against spin of any kind.

I completely agree. I had said the same thing during India v SA test series and I was being questioned for my statement?!

Anyways, I think as much as batsmen played wrong, our spinners too didn't play that well enough. They were still hurling the ball like they do on non-spin friendly pitches. How would you expect to see the ball turning then? All our players failed to read the pitch, both batsmen and bowlers. Neither shot selection was better nor the pace from the spinners (it should have been lower than usual). New Zealanders just came and bowled normally, which was really wise. And Indian batsmen on their worst day, given away all the wickets and two points.

Notwithstanding, I'm glad it has happened against the NZ and not any other team. Otherwise it would have been tough for me to move on.

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Eden pitch is going to be a little bit familiar but not as completely weird as Nagpur's. Batsmen have to omit the go and hit mood now, rather they need to switch it to rotating strike until getting settled and then move on to playing big shots in the death overs. And, spinners have to take the advantage as well. Don't just show variations but spin it too.

India v Pakistan will certainly be a tense match given that how horribly we played yesterday. Pakistan also have good spinners, as well as their batsmen face spin more well than our batsmen. Only two ways I see to win that upcoming game are playing natural and getting back to 'home' mode. Relevant to IPL mode, Dhoni needs to apply all the IPL strategies from here and players need to perform up to it. I hope that shouldn't be heavier to practice withing three days because it's all they have been doing their entire life but they seem to have forgot after couple of decent trips outside of home.

 

[zwarrior]

There is a weak link especially in the middle order. Pandya is a hit or miss just like dhawan. All-rounder mark should be scratched from jadeja. He is just a bowler. I feel Rahane should be included in the team. He plays spin much better than Dhawan.

 

[Ohm]

ICC World T20 2016: India vs New Zealand - Twitter reactions

One of the reactions: Shane Warne would have turned the ball to Mars on this pitch. Lol.

 

[Saroj padhy]

First up, a good shake-up for the establishment and especially to Ravi Shashtri. India is back to it's old times by losing the first match, heavily and is now trying to play catch up.

Losing a game is one thing, but losing without a fight is what sets the fans off. A chase of 127 should've been easily managed, but alas, New Zealand got the better of us today.

I've been saying for a while that Rohit Sharma is a good for nothing flat track bully and he's proven it yet again today. If the pitch shows a little bit of movement, we are all over the place. The middle order which I had predicted would be problematic has yet again shown it's class with the feeble attempts of Raina, Yuvraj & the Indian Shahid Afridi (Hardick Pandya). Other than Virat, Dhoni & Ashwin, none of the batsmen showed their willingness to stay put for long. The manner in which India lost has demoralized a lot of people and I wouldn't be surprised if the team struggles to make the semis in a tough group.

Secondly, the pitch factor- Nagpur had been rated as a poor pitch by the ICC a few months ago. I agree, it was a testing wicket, but it's not ideal for T20 cricket. I'd rate it similar to the ones used in Bangladesh recently.



Just a correction here; the batting isn't weak. They played pathetically. On other day, had they applied themselves, the same line-up could've won this match.

Bhajji ?- IMO, he doesn't deserve a spot in the 15. Part timers who bowled for India did a good job at keeping the run rate in check and kept on taking regular wickets.

I agree with your last point- our batsman did nothing today. Having said that, I do find the form of our openers a bit worrisome, given the last few innings.

You are talking about Raina.
Ok he got lucky with the ball yesterday.
But what about Pandya and Nehra.
Pandya took 10 wicket in an over with 0 economy rate may be for you
Only 4 players is playing serious game in that playing XI. Rohit ,Kohli, Ashwin, Bumrah.