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India's tour of Australia - January 2016
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Saroj padhy
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Good commentary by Akash Chopra against Dhoni
Aswhin and Jadeja impressed, really controlled things in the middle, that too on a surface where there was no spin on offer. The fielding, especially catching was woeful. Will someone be actually bothered to give Rishi Dhawan a go in the side now.
Ishant was poor, just bowled wides all day long, and Umesh the less said the better. Sran I dont want to be too harsh naturally but he really has to pitch it up. There is a long list of Indian bowlers who go to Aus get excited by the bounce on the tracks and bowl short. Sran completely followed that model for a large part of his spell.
I am genuinely also worried about India's batting at the end overs. They just want to hit straight ... there is no innovation, no reverse sweep, no ramp shots nothing. In light of this when yorkers come, ans Aus really bowled them well at the end, there is no scoring option left.
Ishant was poor, just bowled wides all day long, and Umesh the less said the better. Sran I dont want to be too harsh naturally but he really has to pitch it up. There is a long list of Indian bowlers who go to Aus get excited by the bounce on the tracks and bowl short. Sran completely followed that model for a large part of his spell.
I am genuinely also worried about India's batting at the end overs. They just want to hit straight ... there is no innovation, no reverse sweep, no ramp shots nothing. In light of this when yorkers come, ans Aus really bowled them well at the end, there is no scoring option left.
Rehan_24
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No offense but hasn't Indian team gotten satisfied with the volume of beating they have been received from Aussies for almost like an year now on consistent basis? You had a long Australian tour and it was all clean sweep virtually, than World Cup defeats in the side match and semi-final and now story is repeating itself in this short-form series, and the point to ponder is that all defeats were so easy like a piece of cake for Australia. No challenge whatsoever. Personally, In Australia, Sub-continent teams have always met this very fate virtually. Not only the Asian sides, Aussies hard work and determination doesn't really allow any other team to overcome them in their home soil.
Indian bowling has always been a huge problem for them and the current one is the weakest of them all I suppose. The batting is one of strongest but Aussies will definitely hit back on these big scores.
Dhoni is a disappointment. He used to lead from the front. This maybe an important tour for his career.
PS: I would support Shankar's view to give back FTP to ICC rather than joint agreements by boards otherwise this unfair cooking and grilling will go on and on and you wont be having competitive and exciting cricket. Bring back the Knockout Tournament, Bring back Tri-series etc.
Indian bowling has always been a huge problem for them and the current one is the weakest of them all I suppose. The batting is one of strongest but Aussies will definitely hit back on these big scores.
Dhoni is a disappointment. He used to lead from the front. This maybe an important tour for his career.
PS: I would support Shankar's view to give back FTP to ICC rather than joint agreements by boards otherwise this unfair cooking and grilling will go on and on and you wont be having competitive and exciting cricket. Bring back the Knockout Tournament, Bring back Tri-series etc.
Player2011
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I think today was not MS Dhoni's mistake. India had enough Runs on the board. Dhoni utilities Bowlers very well. But due to Catches dropped from Fielders specially Marsh's catch 4 times. And Bowlers also loose momentum due to "poor fielding" . India forget the basic rule :"Catches Win Matches".
Aus record winning streak 17 matches at Home.
Finally poor cricket from India. Watch like Highlight of previous match.
Aus record winning streak 17 matches at Home.
Finally poor cricket from India. Watch like Highlight of previous match.
What? Ind have not even played Australia since the world cup. This is the first meeting in nearly a year. What consistant beating are you talking about.
Also even if Australia beat India, the last time they were there nearly a year ago does that mean India should never tour Australia again, because Australia will beat India?
Dhoni I think has really let the bowlers have it.
"Seems as if we have to score more runs and that puts a lot of pressure on the batsman. Back to back 300 is always good, but looking at our bowlers, we need to score 330 or more. Most of the wides weren’t because of swing. And we bowled wides even with the old ball. When we were supposed to build pressure, we bowled wides. The spinners bowled reasonably well. The morale is up, we'll just have to play a few more shots. We can be on the receiving end if we lose too many wickets. We have to go out there and enjoy it. But looking at everything we have to score 330-plus to make a game out of it”
If the captain openly says he thinks they can't defend a below 330 target, then the message should be clear to the bowlers. I wonder if another 'interesting' Umesh Yadav TV interview will surface after this. If he does give an interview, he really does need to have a hard look at himself and his performance first.
"Seems as if we have to score more runs and that puts a lot of pressure on the batsman. Back to back 300 is always good, but looking at our bowlers, we need to score 330 or more. Most of the wides weren’t because of swing. And we bowled wides even with the old ball. When we were supposed to build pressure, we bowled wides. The spinners bowled reasonably well. The morale is up, we'll just have to play a few more shots. We can be on the receiving end if we lose too many wickets. We have to go out there and enjoy it. But looking at everything we have to score 330-plus to make a game out of it”
If the captain openly says he thinks they can't defend a below 330 target, then the message should be clear to the bowlers. I wonder if another 'interesting' Umesh Yadav TV interview will surface after this. If he does give an interview, he really does need to have a hard look at himself and his performance first.
im missing the umesh yadav reference here, what happened
There was one channel where he had a go at Dhoni, for wanting control as well as pace. He said his priority is pace. Something to that effect. All that is fine, but if he performs like he did today what use is his pace. A bit of control is not such a poor idea.
that's dumb of him!
The point here is aus bowlers are also giving the same amount of runs, the key difference between the teams is acceleration at the death overs!
The bowling and fielding was horrible no excuse, but still i think the acceleration part makes the difference between the teams! I mean we didnt fail to accelerate because of some great yorker or smart bowling rather just trying to hoick the half volleys down the longons throat!
Bowling certainly has to improve after the horrible display today especially extras, but i dont expect them to make more than say 10 -15 runs difference even if they bowl well, mainly cause the pitches are 330 wkts!
The point here is aus bowlers are also giving the same amount of runs, the key difference between the teams is acceleration at the death overs!
The bowling and fielding was horrible no excuse, but still i think the acceleration part makes the difference between the teams! I mean we didnt fail to accelerate because of some great yorker or smart bowling rather just trying to hoick the half volleys down the longons throat!
Bowling certainly has to improve after the horrible display today especially extras, but i dont expect them to make more than say 10 -15 runs difference even if they bowl well, mainly cause the pitches are 330 wkts!
I think there is a difference. Chasing 300 is harder than scoring 300 batting first. The scoreboard does add its own pressure. While I agree that India have been poor with the bat in the end overs in both games, but I mean with the bowling even if India had scored 330, Aus would have gotten there comfortably.
Any bowling attack worth some weight would have saved at least one of the totals. In the first it was the spinners, now it was the seamers.
Tne way India are bowling it is only the target the keeps Australia from scoring beyond 310. If they had a free run batting first, they would easily score 350+ with the kind of bowling we have.
All said and done the batsmen did their job. If the bowlers can't defend it, then I don't really think its a defence to say that the other side's bowlers are also getting hammered, we are only getting hammered a little worse.
Its okay though, this is the return ODI series, of the one in India, where Ind regularly knocked down 350 totals to win. So One shouldnt grudge Aus some payback.
However the point on Umesh is that if you are openly going to have a go at the captain in an interview, you had better perform first.
ya totally agree on umesh its never good to criticize and to do it without a performance to back it is just stupid!
I still feel these wkts are too flat, 330-350 may be the new 300 for these wkts, in the sense just having that chasing team to go for the extra boundary will open more opportunities not that we would catch them though
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I still feel these wkts are too flat, 330-350 may be the new 300 for these wkts, in the sense just having that chasing team to go for the extra boundary will open more opportunities not that we would catch them though
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Rehan_24
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Well with such a long tour just an year ago, and the result was white-wash in Australia, I don't think so a short format series was necessary when sub-continent teams knew what their fate would be.... so touring with such a short gap in between wasn't a good call. What you gonna do now, another series in early 2017 after this whitewash? Give yourself a break IMO. Had it been Pakistan, I would be having this same very view.
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