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[Chewie]

Personally, I don't rate Dilshan and Watson as high as that as batsmen. Nor Collingwood. And your NZ players are rated pretty highly. So are Butt, White, Raina, Yuvraj, Iqbal, Prince, Shakib, Malik and Petersen imo. They're all 1400-1500 players I feel

 

[kunal25184]

AB Develliers, I think we can keep him at around 1615 as he is still young and will improve as he grows..............

Gambhir at 1680 is a bit high, may be around 1625.............

Watson again, IMO he should be around 1560...........

Kallis, Ponting, Sachin 1725..........

McCullum too high...........(May be 1500)

Kohli and Raina again are young guns, so a bit lesser than this (esp. Kohli)

Dilshan at 1690...........Amazing.....................(Around 1520 at the most)

Rest of them, seems pretty good.........

Its good if we can even discuss for some of the bowlers........

 

[hedger_14]

*sigh* This is why we need a Potential Ability. Since AB de Villiers is young, we can't give him a great rating despite being the best ODI batsman in the world at the moment (well he's second in the rankings) and a very good test batsman as well. Anyway, I know I've rated them fairly highly so maybe we should try and put together a list of the best batsman in the world in order maybe and then we'll do the attributes and scale them down on age.

 

[Chewie]

There possibly is a potential ability we just haven't found it yet

 

[kunal25184]

Ratings for some of the best bowlers from my side...............

G Swann 575
D Vettori 575
M Murlitharan 575
D Steyn 585
M Johnson 600
M Asif 600
M Morkel 620
H Singh 620
J Anderson 625
N Kulerasakera 625
S Broad 625
S Al Hasan 625
K Mills 625
Z Khan 630
D Bollinger 635

Tell me if I am missing someone..............

 

[hedger_14]

Hauritz

And why is Broad rated so highly. He is nowhere near as good as Anderson or even the rest of the English bowlers.

 

[Chewie]

Ratings for some of the best bowlers from my side...............

G Swann 575
D Vettori 575
M Murlitharan 575
D Steyn 585
M Johnson 600
M Asif 600
M Morkel 620
H Singh 620
J Anderson 625
N Kulerasakera 625
S Broad 625
S Al Hasan 625
K Mills 625
Z Khan 630
D Bollinger 635

Tell me if I am missing someone..............

imo you overrate Swann, Morkel, Singh and Broad. Missing Hilfenhaus, Bond (not that he really matters much anymore), Anderson

 

[hedger_14]

Anderson is there. Rated 625. Swann should be below Steyn. Asif should be rated a little lower. Yes he is a good bowler and yes pretty underrated but he's not world class. Hauritz should be at least on the same level as Al Hasan considering he is a bowler while Al Hasan is an AR. Morkel should be rated on about the same level as Anderson/Mills. I rate him at the same level as Kulasekara. I say Bollinger should also be on the same level as Zaheer Khan. And Broad is ████. A lot of bowlers who aren't there are better than him.

And you forgot Jerome Taylor as well.

 

[kunal25184]

Yeh, missed out some of the west indians..........
I think Kemar Roach is also good talent...............

Ok, i will change Broad to 665.
Swann would be good at around 600.
M Morkel 650.
H Singh, I can't rate him lower than 640.
Hilfenhaus would be around 630.

N Hauritz should be 625 (I forgot that whenever we are discussing with Hedger, Hauritz got to be there)
)

 

[hedger_14]

I think that Morkel should be at 630, around teh same as Hilfenhaus.

 

[kunal25184]

Any chance of Scout being released in the near future???

So that I can start editing........

 

[kunal25184]

These are the changes for Australians in my patch:
(I have used changes made by Chewie as help where required)

Brad Haddin - batting up to 1340
Mike Hussey - batting up to 1700
Mitchelle Johnson - bowling up to 605
Marcus North - batting up to 1455
Shaun Tait - batting up to 635
David Warner - batting up to 1475
Travis Birt - made Keeper/Batsman
David Bandy - bowling down to 850
Doug Bollinger - bowling down to 625
Mark Cameron - bowling down to 750
Stuart Clark - bowling down to 680
Trent Copeland - bowling down to 700
Mark Cosgrove - batting down to 1250
Ben Cutting - bowling down to 740
Brett Dorey - bowling down to 760
Luke Feldman - bowling down to 750
Callum Ferguson - batting up to 1300
Ryan Harris - bowling up to 650
John Hastings - bowling down to 700
Nathan Hauritz - bowling up to 655
Josh Hazlewood - bowling up to 760
Phillip Hughes - batting down to 1465
Phil Jacques - batting down to 1480
Simon Katich - bowling changed to LS, Bowling up to 1100
Brad Knowles - bowling down to 720
Steve Magoffin - bowling down to 780
Shaun Marsh - batting up to 1300, bowling down to 1500
Mitchell Marsh - made all-rounder, batting up to 1080, bowling up to 1000
Andrew McDonald - bowling down to 760
Bryce McGain - bowling down to 850
Clint McKay - bowling down to 635
Dirk Nannes - bowling down to 665
Tim Paine - batting up to 1250
James Pattinson - bowling up to 800
Ricky Ponting - batting up to 1725
Peter Siddle - bowling down to 690
Steven Smith - batting down to 1400, bowling up to 825
Andrew Symonds - batting up to 1550
Shane Watson - bowling down to 730, batting up to 1525
Cameron White - bowling down to 1000
Damien Wright - bowling down to 740
Ben Hilfenhaus - bowling up to 625

 

[hedger_14]

They seem fine apart from Warner. His rating is higher than both Hughes and North


Warner should be 1250 max. I would put him at about 1200 max but that's just my opinion. He is ████ though. He averages 30 in List A but that is it. T20, he averages 26, in FC he averages 26 in 4 matches. He will never play test cricket (well unless the selectors are stupid).

 

[kunal25184]

Changes to New Zealanders:

Nick Beard - batting down to 500, bowling up to 850
Shane Bond - bowling up to 600
Grant Elliott - batting up to 1300, bowling up to 880
Peter Fulton - made batsman, batting up to 1360
Mark Gillespie - made RMF, bowling down to 720
Martin Guptill - batting up to 1340
Anaru Kitchen - batting down to 1180
Chris Martin - bowling up to 745
Nathan McCullum - bowling up to 790
Brendon McCullum - batting up to 1450
Andy McKay - bowling up to 740
Warren McSkimming - bowling down to 810
Kyle Mills - made bowler, bowling up to 660
Jacob Oram - bowling down to 740
Jeet Raval - batting down to 1210
Aaron Redmond - batting up to 1180
Tim Southee - bowling up to 700
Scott Styris - batting up to 1300, bowling up to 850
Ross Taylor - batting up to 1560
Daniel Vettori - batting up to 1100, bowling up to 575
Lou Vincent - made opening keeper/batsman, batting up to 1200
Sam Wells - batting down to 1100, bowling down to 850
Kane Williamson - batting down to 1280, bowling up to 1000


They would seem to be very few, because actually, i am making patch for India

 

[Chewie]

I've just gone through the South African players and good God there are a lot of overrated players. South African players are extremely overrated, while New Zealand players are extremely underrated I find.