Mini Mafia - Town wins!

[Aditya]

If we do decide to lynch Manly and he's mafia, I can target Sim tonight if that's what you guys want. My suspicions on barmy and puddleduck were probably just curiosity more than anything, but I'm willing to give them credit for actively trying to scumhunt, whereas guys like Manly, Aditya and Sim appear to be trying to slip through. It's important to know 100% who I'm targetting though if today's lynchee is mafia, since it should definitely clear someone when I die tonight.

I'm slipping through? Seriously, you find useless reasons to target me. Whenever I'm online, I try my best to be active in this thread and I guess you should see that for yourself. I role claimed just after I saw that Manly has claimed vanilla. Like a few others, I too didn't think about the possibility of 2 or even 3 vanilla's but I admit that's a mistake on my part. I'm not shy of admitting this, I didn't think the game balance through, as simple as that, I do believe that the possibility of this happening is indeed there.

You guys don't put up any questions for me, you've got nothing to put suspicion on me at all but yet you keep on targeting me for no reason. Why is that so? If you've got anything to ask me, go ahead ask me questions but simply saying that I've tried to slip through isn't something that I appreciate but as I said, ask me questions, I've got nothing to hide and hence I can defend myself.

Manly, has been very inactive and hasn't defended himself at all. Sim, on other hand has posted a few times and he has looked town but then he's not as much active as he should be, which is something that I don't understand, it's something I expect from a mafia. He might be trying to be quiet, do nothing suspicious and get away with lynches and so for that, I'd lynch him until he defends himself.

Lynch : Sim

Big FOS on : Manly

 

[Gaurav_7]

Vote count

Sim (3) - Manly, Colin, Adi
Manly (2) - PD, Hedger

4 needed for a lynch

 

[barmyarmy]

I'm not going to unlynch him as he's one from the hammer because it's not LyLo but I warn everyone who hasn't voted yet not to hammer him without a consensus. We need to hear a defence first.

 

[Sedition]

I'm slipping through? Seriously, you find useless reasons to target me. Whenever I'm online, I try my best to be active in this thread and I guess you should see that for yourself. I role claimed just after I saw that Manly has claimed vanilla. Like a few others, I too didn't think about the possibility of 2 or even 3 vanilla's but I admit that's a mistake on my part. I'm not shy of admitting this, I didn't think the game balance through, as simple as that, I do believe that the possibility of this happening is indeed there.

You guys don't put up any questions for me, you've got nothing to put suspicion on me at all but yet you keep on targeting me for no reason. Why is that so? If you've got anything to ask me, go ahead ask me questions but simply saying that I've tried to slip through isn't something that I appreciate but as I said, ask me questions, I've got nothing to hide and hence I can defend myself.

Manly, has been very inactive and hasn't defended himself at all. Sim, on other hand has posted a few times and he has looked town but then he's not as much active as he should be, which is something that I don't understand, it's something I expect from a mafia. He might be trying to be quiet, do nothing suspicious and get away with lynches and so for that, I'd lynch him until he defends himself.

Lynch : Sim

Big FOS on : Manly

I just threw your name amongst the others that weren't as active as everyone else, especially when a claim had been made. You lynch Sim for the reason that he's posted a few times, but I thought you were both equally active and town until this point.

 

[Sedition]

Expensive mistake jailkeeping me imo. You have to target the mafia killer to stay alive so if you think I'm town not mafia then you should be targeting someone else.

I'm not really sure tbh, but as I said, I'm willing to give you, PD and Hedger credit for actively trying to figure out how to checkmate the mafia. I guess Sim and Manly are the two most accused, so depending on who gets lynched and if they're mafia, I target the other to clear them.

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My feeling on lynch Manly and target barmy is that it was the way to go.. If we have a cop, then he should probably investigate barmy while I go for either Sim or Manly depending on who gets lynched.

Where are PD and Hedger to help?

 

[hedger_14]

Expensive mistake jailkeeping me imo. You have to target the mafia killer to stay alive so if you think I'm town not mafia then you should be targeting someone else.

No, he won't cause if he doesn't jailkeep puddle, then puddle will either be doc on him or is mafia and obviously can't kill him.

And also, I find it slightly suspicious how barmy tried to shift suspicion quickly onto sim even though Manly's defence wasn't great at all. Almost like Manly was his mafia partner and he led on him early and then decided to use his town vibes that he's given out to switch onto sim, so he can get him lynched and make it easier for the mafia to win.

Although I'm still suspicious of sim, and I'm still going to guess it is Sim/Manly mafia combo.

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And I was going to say it would be much easier if barmy hadn't done anything and we continued our lynch on Manly.

Then if Manly flipped mafia, you could jailkeep sim or if he flipped town, then jailkeep Colin.

 

[Sedition]

No, he won't cause if he doesn't jailkeep puddle, then puddle will either be doc on him or is mafia and obviously can't kill him.

And also, I find it slightly suspicious how barmy tried to shift suspicion quickly onto sim even though Manly's defence wasn't great at all. Almost like Manly was his mafia partner and he led on him early and then decided to use his town vibes that he's given out to switch onto sim, so he can get him lynched and make it easier for the mafia to win.

Although I'm still suspicious of sim, and I'm still going to guess it is Sim/Manly mafia combo.

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And I was going to say it would be much easier if barmy hadn't done anything and we continued our lynch on Manly.

Then if Manly flipped mafia, you could jailkeep sim or if he flipped town, then jailkeep Colin.

Yeah I didn't really like barmyarmy jumping from Manly to Sim.. I thought we had a solid plan and obviously barmy's going to try to derail it if Manly turned up mafia (more likely than Sim imo) and he's being targeted.

I was worried about the lynch getting hammered, but as long as I don't do it, I think it's safe.

 

[Sedition]

I'm slipping through? Seriously, you find useless reasons to target me. Whenever I'm online, I try my best to be active in this thread and I guess you should see that for yourself. I role claimed just after I saw that Manly has claimed vanilla. Like a few others, I too didn't think about the possibility of 2 or even 3 vanilla's but I admit that's a mistake on my part. I'm not shy of admitting this, I didn't think the game balance through, as simple as that, I do believe that the possibility of this happening is indeed there.

You guys don't put up any questions for me, you've got nothing to put suspicion on me at all but yet you keep on targeting me for no reason. Why is that so? If you've got anything to ask me, go ahead ask me questions but simply saying that I've tried to slip through isn't something that I appreciate but as I said, ask me questions, I've got nothing to hide and hence I can defend myself.

Manly, has been very inactive and hasn't defended himself at all. Sim, on other hand has posted a few times and he has looked town but then he's not as much active as he should be, which is something that I don't understand, it's something I expect from a mafia. He might be trying to be quiet, do nothing suspicious and get away with lynches and so for that, I'd lynch him until he defends himself.

Lynch : Sim

Big FOS on : Manly

Sorry to double quote, but I wanted to respond to this again in more detail.

I'm not sure why you got so defensive when I mentioned you could be slipping through as a potential target for my jailkeeping. As I said, my suspicions were on Hedger, barmy and puddleduck. I already targeted Hedger and we got a result, so PD and barmy have been my next potential targets, and I've been undecided between them since the beginning.

Since those 3 were all active at the time I posted, I wanted some thoughts on whether you or Sim would be better targets for them to have confirmed as town.

It's important to note that with a jailkeeper, if we lynch correctly today, we can gain a lot of info with or without my death tonight. If we lynch incorrectly, you will most likely get nothing from me and an important role has been lost for nothing. So I'm a bit concerned as to why you put Sim one from the hammer and potentially lose info.

I don't think you need to be asked questions and be forced to come defend yourself to be active, I'm interested in what your thoughts on everyone and maybe who I should target and all that stuff is without having to ask. I told you earlier in the thread I felt you were town, so knowing my claim, I want to hear your opinion.

 

[Manly]

Quick question: how can I be deemed inactive, yet Sim is not as active as he should be, given the fact I've had (just a few) more posts than him?

 

[barmyarmy]

I don't think it's that surprising a switch. My lynch on Manly was based on his lynch of sedition. Once he removed it and explained he had made a mistake I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, for now, and focus on someone else. Not ruling out coming back to him.

 

[Sedition]

You could be genuine barmy and have seemed to try to help the town, but I think it's best for those remaining to have you confirmed town before being lead too far.

My stance, though I won't place the lynch down just yet, is to lynch Manly and if he turns up mafia, jailkeep barmy to confirm he's town when/if I die overnight.

 

[puddleduck]

Yeah Barmy has made it clear all along he wanted an explanation from Manly. Some interesting stuff since I passed out (massive essays and approaching deadlines, ugghhh )

I was fairly sure Manly was mafia yet he does now have some town vibes, although as someone mentioned, if this is Barmy and Manly pulling some kind of fast one, it's mighty impressive. Though would have been bold to leave Manly one from lynch for so long surely? No if Manly is mafia, I don't think Barmy can be. I know he told people not to hammer, but he still left a couple of people able to hammer a potential mafia buddy for a long time. Though the other side of this, is if Manly isn't and Sim isn't, then Barmy has led two potential lynches of town players! It's tough with Barmy, cos even though I have him as town, I find I have a constant nagging that he's a clever sod and could be sat at home smurking to himself as yet another person classes him as town

Sim hasn't actually come back yet has he? So he needs to provide a defence now he's one from hammer. I could lynch out Sim, but I'd rather hear what he has to say first. I'll have to leave my lynch on Manly for now though, just because even though he's now given some town vibes for the first time in the game, he's still about the only person I've had more than just an inkling they might be mafia.

As for Sedition's roleblock, I guess if we do hit mafia with the lynch, then sticking it on whoever has been considered most mafialike as agreed before hand means we then know that person is clear if you die, and that they are mafia if you live? Unless of course a Doc has saved you? I can see Barmy's point that using it on him if he's town (which is Manly or Sim came back mafia) means you will almost certainly wake up dead unless you get a doc save... Perhaps putting it on whichever of the two suspects don't get lynched makes most sense in the hope they are mafia? Hmm I'm struggling to quite think this part through logically, too much Ibsen and Gissing in my head. Bleedin' 19th century feminism. Bah, ruined it for all of us haha

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Quick question: how can I be deemed inactive, yet Sim is not as active as he should be, given the fact I've had (just a few) more posts than him?

I think you're still deliberately missing the point. You refused to provide any kind of answers to the questions put to you and made no effort to defend yourself. Maybe you needed time for the game to give you a get out clause and Barmy switching to Sim was that clause. Don't know, this is still pretty scummy to me. Sim at least provided some analysis in his posts.

 

[Sedition]

If I live it doesn't necessarily mean the agreed target is mafia, since they could try the framejob by purposely targeting the same person. It does mean that if we have a cop, he should have a confirmed town/mafia out of who he targets, and the mafia still need to get rid of the PR's at some point otherwise the cop should eventually find the actual last mafia.

If we lynch Manly, he's mafia, I jailkeep barmy, then maybe the cop can search Sim or anyone else that's not barmy.

 

[puddleduck]

Yeah I guess as long as we know what you're doing if there's one mafia left and we know who you are roleblocking, then if the doc gets a result and you die, the next day becomes potentially a lot simpler. Not to mention the fact that as doc I still might save you and cancel out the mafia kill alltogether

 

[Manly]

Just like to point out also that if you lynch me, you'll be lynching town, so any of these permutations you're coming out with that have me mafia won't lead to anything.

If you do lynch me, (as I'm sure I've said before) you'll see I'm town (vanilla) and you need to go after Adi...