NFL Mafia - End Game - Town and Manly win

Doc? Failed to protect Mark.

No that wasn't the doc (from what I can gather there isn't one). That was me Ray Lewis, Bodyguard, Town-aligned, I was as you can guess roleblocked last night.

What's peoples thoughts on before we go any further we should all character claim, as there are so many mentions in the write ups that if we do it now we'll be able to catch people out in the future?
 
Not sure that's a good idea seeing as we've just lost the cop and we know there's a thief/role cop out there. We want them anonymous for as long as possible.
 
Well I'm not sure. I don't feel Abhas is mafia mainly because if Abhas is the godfather and was indeed time frozen, then there would have been two kills last night which there wasn't. However, that doesn't mean Abhas can be another mafia member who doesn't have a killing role.

Although I find it hard to believe that there would only be a random cop in the game so I'm not sure. Anyway, if Abhas turns up town, Varun is definitely mafia and if Abhas turns up mafia, then there's a very good chance Varun is town.
 
if Abhas is the godfather and was indeed time frozen, then there would have been two kills last night which there wasn't.

I don't think Abhas is the GF. He'd of come up Mafia if he was, presuming Mark was insane which looks likely at the moment.
 
If he is mafia and was frozen then he must have a night role of some kind. I guess that he could be mafia roleblocker.
I'm keen not to lynch wrong as someone could be being extremely clever here and tricking us into losing the game.
From the way User2010 is attacking Abhas I'd say that one of them is definitely mafia.
 
I don't see why User would be so aggressive if he was just going by Mark and the writeups, he must have something else.
If Abhas does come up town, then we'll need a claim from Varun and probably User.

Lynch: Abhas

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That's 5 on Abhas I believe

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Also I'm going to claim here -

I'm Plaxico Burress, Paranoid Gun Owner, Town-aligned
Which means I shoot anyone that targets me at night.

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Come to think of it, with so many characters with guns, I think it'd make sense to have a Gunkeeper in the game.

I'm kinda getting the feeling that Abhas might be innocent and User might be mafia trying to get rid of Abhas and Varun could be mafia too.

I'd like a claim from Varun... what do you guys think?

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Unlynch: Abhas for now, I don't want to lose another townie, especially Abhas, there's no reason to rush into it.
 
Yeah, that makes more sense that Abhas be a gunsmith if there are other roles with guns. It also makes sense if Mark was a random cop as a gunsmith is much like a cop.

Anyway, a lot of suspicion on Varun now and I think we need a claim.

Lynch: Varun
 
Vote Count

Varun (2) - Abhas, Hedger
Abhas (4) - User2010, Manly, Varun, Themer

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.
 
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Well, I think I've a fair bit of idea about who Varun might be. I feel it is the time to reveal your info, Varun.
 
Time to speak up.

I'll admit that I've pretty much failed to analyze this very well, but being busy modding the other game, I couldn't do much. But I've spotted Abhas as lying, and the thing is, I would've posted this, and lynched Abhas even if Abhas hadn't accused me, because he's openly using references to my character to make up his own.

I'm Shawne Merriman, Cheater, Town-aligned. Known around the NFL as 'Lights Out', I'm a strong but injury prone linebacker. In 2006 I was suspended for four games after violating the NFL's steroid policy. Because of this Iam the Cheater. Each night I learn a role that is in the game, but not who has it.

The key phrase here is 'Each night I learn'. I don't choose if I learn about a role or not. Just do. All the three descriptions on the three nights referring to a person gathering information from various sources (and on night 1 being roleblocked) refer to me.

With most of the players fast asleep, one man couldn't. Instead he visited a friend, asking for some information. He knew he couldn't know everything but at least he had got something. This information would come in handy later and he knew he'd learn more the next night.

Having gathered information the previous night he wanted more and knew where to find it. The only thing he didn't count on was being hounded by a former team mate, wanting to go grab a drink and catch up. Reluctantly he agreed. The information would have to wait.

Having been distracted last night, he was hungry for more information. He met with his trusted source and gained information, this time from the other side. He didn't know who, but he knew their aim. 'Interesting', he thought to himself, before heading back to his room.

I cannot provide evidence that Abhas is lying about his character (although I'm darn sure he's not a Gunsmith, because I don't have a gun). But I can prove I am telling the truth and it isn't Abhas who's been referred to in the writeup.

I know from my role there's a Voyeur in the game (who is definitely town), and a Usurper (mafia) as well. I can also fully explain all the three paragraphs describing me (besides 'The only thing he didn't count on was being hounded by a former team mate', although I have reasonable explanation for that as well.).

Night 0, and Night 2, I have been described visiting a friend, and a trusted source respectively. Now who but a Cheater would do this to gain information? Wouldn't Abhas search people instead if he was the Gunsmith? I can assure you that the friend and the trusted source are not characters in this game. 'This time from the other side', on Night 2 refers to the fact that I gained information about the other alignment, that is the mafia. Of course, Usurper belongs to the mafia. That clearly proves that the Voyeur is town. The news of Usurper to me was 'Interesting'. I know his aim but obviously didn't know who it was. Also, 'This information would come in handy later and he knew he'd learn more the next night.' simply shows that I am forced to use my role on every night.

Coming back to Night 1, I was roleblocked, yes. Strong arguments by Abhas and Haarithan, La Tomlinson being his former teammate, and Haarithan assuring all that he froze Abhas actually made me ignorant of the fact that it was me, I also being engaged in the other mafia game. The Night 2 writeup confirms that I was roleblocked, and the only thing I can't explain properly enough is who was that 'former teammate'. It couldn't be Abhas, it couldn't be Haarithan (although they are my character's former teammate'), for Haarithan time-froze Abhas on Night 1, and I can only speculate he's the mafia roleblocker, the one who blocked Themer.

I have also made a grievous fault even by suggesting that there is a cult. While examining the night writeup again, I have been assured that 'currently without a team' refers to a free agent rather than a person without any alignment or cult. He can be anyone, and I feel either mafia/SK. Although it has no connection to my role whatsoever.

I know for sure Abhas is lying. To convince you, I would only like the Voyeur to come up (obviously I don't expect the Usurper to do so, although I believe I've caused the tension in the mafia camp already ;)), and testify that he's in the game, which would confirm my identity as a Cheater, and thus disprove Abhas being a Gunsmith, for I don't have a gun. And there goes Abhas.

Obviously, my lynch stays.
 
To convince you, I would only like the Voyeur to come up

The only problem with that is that if you are mafia, then one of your mafia teammates can just claim voyeur. Anyway, I guess we can get that claim and if we kill Abhas and he turns up town, then Varun and the person who claimed voyeur are mafia and if he turns up mafia, then Varun and that other person who claimed voyeur are two town most likely.

Anyway, I'm not sure so I will just wait for the time being.
 
I am more than sure there is one. I have my role, and you have the night writeup which confirms every bit of what I've said.
 
my ghost post, I'll just err on the side of caution and not announce what my last investigation yielded since I was killed before it was over. This should be interesting
 
Incidentally, the night writeup also testifies everything I've said, so either of us is lying. User seems to know a bit too much about you.. What are the chances he claims voyeur?
Obviously, since you've been found with a gun, you're making this thing up about a cheater, whatever you said just doesn't prove you can't be mafia.
I don't mind being lynched, it's not the end of the world, but since there are likely to be 3 mafia, and they know the identities of all of us, a missed lynch today will lead them cruising to a victory here. Remember, if DP's indeed telling the truth about his role, a skipped day phase could also be crucial for the mafia.

All I'm trying to say is, rather than going for a hunch, and assumptions based on countless "maybe's", it would be far more logical to go after the confirmed result.
I had not anticipated a paranoid gun owner, and didn't count that in my lynch, but since MaD's telling us he is one, I don't see any other town role which has a gun.

Your lynch stays, as does mine.
 

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