No Hawk-eye for India - England series after DRS made mandatory

ohh exactly what I was thinking. The ACB has to be stronger but I doubt they will. and just ignore all the comments about Pak/India, they spoil some decent threads. And I have to say often started by Indian fans. Sorry if that sounds harsh but its a fact and I think the admins here should be stronger and instantly repremand someone who completely diverts the thread instead of simply looking for text speak and so on in posts.
 
Hmm yeah lets just ignore trolls. They are sore losers and keep bringing world cup win in every unrelated thread.

ICC have to step out and make UDRS compulsory or give the decision to home team only.
 
fearsome tweak off BCCI, why do you do this? UDRS is must for future of cricket and BCCI one or the other agree to this. I thought that with Hot Spot provision in England, BCCI would agree but nooo, they continue to dominate. One good thing is supporting their players but they should be doing on their will and not money power. Like someone said, they need to come on agreement by all boards. 9 Countries and take majority.
 
I think its about time ICC grow some balls and stand up to BCCI. Its sick to see game's governing body being bullied by a single nation :facepalm
 
We strived for bringing Technology into Cricket, and now the game is equipped perfectly. But these inappropriate, mindless rants just about add to the delay wouldn't they?

In the first place India wouldn't have won the WC if not for the overturned decision of Samaraweera (?) thanks to the savior DRS. Be on the negative side and you don't have many points to draw it back and not having it.

BCCI are only overusing the sydney test tragedy as a possible cause for blocking the system I'd like to think. I mean, think, Hot spot, Hawk-eye, Snicko and other fancy technology equipment and DRS, all work as a perfect patch for the little or bigger wound that is on decision making in the game so far.

I'm sorry BCCI's decisions or opinions are not what the Indian fans reflect neither think to be so.
 
is the decision to reject UDRS possibly financial? because ICC makes deals with the tech providers who then make lucrative deals with individual boards on whether or not the UDRS will be available in certain series', thats why not all countries have the system in place....was there a falling out between the BCCI and tech providers? something financial? just speculation ofcourse.
 
I think its about time ICC grow some balls and stand up to BCCI. Its sick to see game's governing body being bullied by a single nation :facepalm

Finally someone who agrees with me. Why does the ICC let the BCCI walk all over it.
 
We strived for bringing Technology into Cricket, and now the game is equipped perfectly. But these inappropriate, mindless rants just about add to the delay wouldn't they?

In the first place India wouldn't have won the WC if not for the overturned decision of Samaraweera (?) thanks to the savior DRS. Be on the negative side and you don't have many points to draw it back and not having it.

BCCI are only overusing the sydney test tragedy as a possible cause for blocking the system I'd like to think. I mean, think, Hot spot, Hawk-eye, Snicko and other fancy technology equipment and DRS, all work as a perfect patch for the little or bigger wound that is on decision making in the game so far.

I'm sorry BCCI's decisions or opinions are not what the Indian fans reflect neither think to be so.

Lets not just rely on "what if's" to enhance our argument. People say India wouldnt have won the World Cup if Sachin didnt have his decision overturned against Ajmal, overturning of Samaraweera's decision, etc? By that case, had Ian Bell got out early in that England-India match, India could have won it, faced different oppositions and might have faced a different opposition in the final and might have won it all differently. A reversal of a decision doesnt mean the match would have panned out differently.

But yes, the BCCI are pushing too far on the UDRS and there will come a time soon when they have to bow down to the system. In the process, they are driving up voices of dissent among the general public and other countries on their overpowering dominance in world cricket. The tipping point will come.
 
Indian Players don't trust the people, that is the technicians, who operate the UDRS. The technology is not automatic, the technicians's predict the path of the ball using the software.
Who knows what the techies will do? Especially in Australia.
I think it is a trust issue.
 
I think its about time ICC grow some balls and stand up to BCCI. Its sick to see game's governing body being bullied by a single nation :facepalm

The Game's governing Body - ICC, WAS always bullied. There were two nations bullying it, and everyone else complained.
Now India's dominating it, and everyone else is complaining.
 
is the decision to reject UDRS possibly financial? because ICC makes deals with the tech providers who then make lucrative deals with individual boards on whether or not the UDRS will be available in certain series', thats why not all countries have the system in place....was there a falling out between the BCCI and tech providers? something financial? just speculation ofcourse.

Yes it's possible and the ICC could make the decision a lot easier to swallow if they announce that DRS will be standard in every international match and that they will provide all or most of the funding to make it happen. I don't think the ICC has a lot of money to throw around, but that kind of move would help to show the world they are serious about it.

The other point to add is that BCCI have already announced they don't want DRS, but there is a meeting of the ICC between now and when the England-India series starts. They are clearly trying to put their foot down before that meeting, a meeting where DRS was expected to be a big talking point. The ICC cricket committee has already recommended that it be used in all forms of international cricket. Can it get through the ICC board too? Doubtful now because the BCCI probably influences quite a number of the votes.
 
I think its about time ICC grow some balls and stand up to BCCI. Its sick to see game's governing body being bullied by a single nation :facepalm

Its not the that ICC dont have balls, its simply how the ICC is structured means the ICC just cannot stand up to India.

You got the understand how the ICC is structured. It is divided into two parts:

- ICC EXECUTIVE BOARD & IDI BOARD OF DIRECTORS (President & CEO). Which is made of of Haroon Loorgat etc

- ICC CHIEF EXECUTIVES' COMMITTEE. Which is the heads of the 10 nation boards & its in this committee all decisions are made.

The first part of the ICC which Loorgat controls just makes decisions & suggestions they have no power whatsoever. The exe committee are the ones responsible for agreeing on a direction for the game. But given India's individual money rise this decade, they obviously have been manipulating & taking full advantage of this broken structure.

So what basically has to happen is that the responsibilities of decision making that the ICC CHIEF EXECUTIVES' COMMITTEE (10 national boards) has needs to be redirected to the ICC EXECUTIVE BOARD & IDI BOARD OF DIRECTORS (President & CEO) - as it is in football & other sporting governing bodies. Thats the only way to cut out India's influence.
 
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And then you've got the other committee that actually seems to work positively - the Cricket Committee. That's the one with a real mix of people: players of past and present like Mark Taylor, Kumar Sangakkara, Ravi Shastri, Clive Lloyd etc. along with other reps like Steve Davis the umpire, David Kendix the stat rat and even Clare Connor of women's cricket. The Cricket Committee recommends the rule changes and such. That's the committee that is recommending uniform acceptance of DRS. And that's a committee that should be able to see all its recommendations implemented as well. It's got a fair representation from all nations and it's acting in cricket's best interest.

The page with all the ICC hierarchy and committee details is here for those interested:
International Cricket Council - The ICC - About The Organisation - ICC Commitees
 

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