No Hawk-eye for India - England series after DRS made mandatory

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Its not the that ICC dont have balls, its simply how the ICC is structured means the ICC just cannot stand up to India.

You got the understand how the ICC is structured. It is divided into two parts:

- ICC EXECUTIVE BOARD & IDI BOARD OF DIRECTORS (President & CEO). Which is made of of Haroon Loorgat etc

- ICC CHIEF EXECUTIVES' COMMITTEE. Which is the heads of the 10 nation boards & its in this committee all decisions are made.

The first part of the ICC which Loorgat controls just makes decisions & suggestions they have no power whatsoever. The exe committee are the ones responsible for agreeing agree on a direction for the game. But given India's individual rise money rise this decade, they obviously have been manipulating & taking full advantage of this broken structure.

So what basically has to happen is that the responsibilities of decision making that the ICC CHIEF EXECUTIVES' COMMITTEE (10 national boards) has needs to be redirected to the ICC EXECUTIVE BOARD & IDI BOARD OF DIRECTORS (President & CEO) - as it is in football & other sporting governing bodies. Thats the only way to cut out India's influence.

couldnt agree more

 

[Papa_Smurf]

I don't see how the can BCCI manipulate the votes of the deciding comittee? For the DRS decision - it's 9-1 atm. That should be enough to introduce it to the game on a permanent basis.

 

[War]

I don't see how the can BCCI manipulate the votes of the deciding comittee? For the DRS decision - it's 9-1 atm. That should be enough to introduce it to the game on a permanent basis.

Yea but as we are seeing with the S Africa & ENG boards collapsing the BCCI request in the last 6 months. The BCCI are plainly bullying & those boards are afraid that standing up to them, mainly cause the BCCI to probably get back at them in other ways.

I would think for example although i know boards like England & Australia especially are rich enough to survive without BCCI financial help etc. They cant stand up to BCCI with the URDS i think without being sure the other 7-8 national boards will walk lock in step with them in confronting IND - especially the Asian boards.

 

[Ollie_H]

They cant stand up to BCCI with the URDS i think without being sure the other 7-8 national boards will walk lock in step with them in confronting IND - especially the Asian boards.

I don't get how that works. How can any of the boards 'stand up' to the BCCI in relation to UDRS when it's an ICC Rule that both teams must agree to its use?

 

[sifter132]

^Because later this month the ICC board is meeting and at that meeting they can change that rule to say that DRS should be used in every series regardless of whether the boards agree or not.

 

[Haarithan]

Decision Review System: Consistency the key to DRS - Sachin Tendulkar | India Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

Interesting article where Shashank Manohar, Gary Kirsten and Sachin Tendulkar all give their views about the board's reluctance to implement technology.

I have even told the ICC that we have no problem with Hot Spot. Our objection is to ball tracking.... it becomes just a case of someone else's imagination versus the umpire's imagination

"I am not against DRS, but I feel it will be more effective with the support of the Snickometer and Hot Spot technology. This will give more consistent results.

"I think what it has done ... is that it has increased the consistency of umpiring so I am a fan of it but I know there are some negative views of it within India," Kirsten told Reuters. "Personally I am very much in favour of it. I think it's a great system."

Tendulkar says the merging of all available technology would come closest to 100% accuracy as possible and be of the best use in the DRS. His opinion comes close to that of both Virender Sehwag and Rahul Dravid who expressed support of the referral system, despite the Sri Lanka experience and early technological errors.More than one player on the Indian team has said in private that the DRS had often benefitted them and the team during the World Cup. Despite having Sehwag two referrals going against him in the semi-finals and the final, he said to a television reporter he still supported the system as it had given him the opportunity to ask for reviews of decisions he doubted."

BCCI officials were due to travel to Australia late last year during the Ashes to study the Virtual Eye technology being used by the official broadcasters Channel 9, but the trip was cancelled. Manohar said a presentation made by the Hawk-Eye to the BCCI in Chennai at the time did not convince the officials of the accuracy of the technology either.

Neither Hot Spot nor the Snicko, is part of the ICC's list of minimum technology requirements for the DRS. The question of whether there will be changes in the referral requirements or if the DRS should be made mandatory across all series, however, is dependent once again on the ICC's annual meeting in Hong Kong at the end of this month.

Does this mean the England India series still stands a chance to witness technology given it starts only on July 21st?

 

[barmyarmy]

Well all we can do is hope for bucket loads of shocking (and easily fixable) decisions given against India...

 

[AngryPixel]

I think Tendulkar today made it pretty clear that he opposes DRS in its current state only. If they integrate Hot Spot and Snicko with it and make them mandatory for DRS then he would have no problem with it.

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@Harithan, i dont think it is possible. Because if they decide to include Hot Spot And Snicko then it would be impossible for Broadcasters to gather all that equipment in such a short time.

 

[Sureshot]

The home broadcasters already have those technologies and the relevant equipment. I do believe, however, that the decision has already been made and if DRS is made compulsory in the meeting, it'll probably not take effect immediately, more likely for the winter tours.

 

[Haarithan]

And he's back!

Modi blasts BCCI for opposing UDRS - The Times of India

"It is high time the ICC took a stand to invoke consistency across world cricket. It is nonsense to allow an individual body to dictate an inconsistent policy to the rest of the world," he said.

"DRS was considered reliable enough for the World Cup and the technology should now be fully embraced. Otherwise, the public will lose faith in a product. Cricket must use it or risk its credibility. The ICC cannot let the BCCI dictate any longer."

 

[AngryPixel]

The home broadcasters already have those technologies and the relevant equipment. I do believe, however, that the decision has already been made and if DRS is made compulsory in the meeting, it'll probably not take effect immediately, more likely for the winter tours.

Hotspot is provided by a Aussie company which also provides this technology for defence(Missile and Jet Fighter Tracking) there. So Any export of that equipment from Australia requires permission from govt which cannot be granted overnight. Thus i don't think broadcasters can provide it without prior knowledge.

 

[Ollie_H]

It's not exported though, ECB/Sky already own the machinery or what not. It doesnt have to be exported to the UK I think is what Sureshot means.

 

[AngryPixel]

Okay, Then i guess Star sports and ESPN doesn't have their own. Because a while back they requested it for a seriesi n India and Aussie company denied on security reasons. I read that on cricinfo.

 

[Sureshot]

It's not exported though, ECB/Sky already own the machinery or what not. It doesnt have to be exported to the UK I think is what Sureshot means.

Yup. Sky already have the equipment in the UK and have done for a while, they use it now in every series whether it's being used in the match or not.

 

[AngryPixel]

Why can't ICC make the Snicko and Hotspot mandatory for DRS. Then BCCI would have no qualms about it. At least do it for test matches. We have all the time in the world in test matches. So waiting for snicko to be synced shouldn't be a problem. Each team has 3 chances. So that is 6 chances in a inning. If a DRS takes 10 minutes. Then a total of only one hour is wasted if every DRS is wrong. more time would be wasted but only if DRS was correct, which is not a wastage of time if it corrects a decision.
Thus overall 2 hours are wasted dues to wrong DRS's in a test matches. I think we can cover up 2 hours in 5 days.