Now tell me he isn't a chucker?!

[Hooper]

Now tell me he isn't a chucker?!

 

[irottev]

I've never liked the fact that they pretty much based the arm bending rule around him. I still guarantee that every game at least 1 delivery comes out at an illegal arm bendiness. I don't care what he proved in a lab, it;s different out in the middle. The pressure, the situation.

I'm sure he doesn't do it on purpose, it's just the way he does it. Just an unfortunate circumstance and if he didn't have the reputation he has, he probably would have been sent away if he were a new player.

 

[Hooper]

I've never liked the fact that they pretty much based the arm bending rule around him. I still guarantee that every game at least 1 delivery comes out at an illegal arm bendiness. I don't care what he proved in a lab, it;s different out in the middle. The pressure, the situation.

I'm sure he doesn't do it on purpose, it's just the way he does it. Just an unfortunate circumstance and if he didn't have the reputation he has, he probably would have been sent away if he were a new player.

Yeah I know, its ridicolous how they extended the laws, and made sure that his bowling degree became the limit. I'd say more then one deleivery per game is illegal - it looks like he does it a fair bit, and it looks even worse in slow-mo. Yeah, in that lab he probably straightened his arm more - who wouldn't?

I know he doesn't do it on purpose and he has a rubber wrist or whatever, but that doesn't stop him from bending his arm so much.

 

[smssia0112]

I've never liked the fact that they pretty much based the arm bending rule around him. I still guarantee that every game at least 1 delivery comes out at an illegal arm bendiness. I don't care what he proved in a lab, it;s different out in the middle. The pressure, the situation.

I'm sure he doesn't do it on purpose, it's just the way he does it. Just an unfortunate circumstance and if he didn't have the reputation he has, he probably would have been sent away if he were a new player.

I think that that's probably correct. The guy is a good bowler, but there will always be that question mark hanging over his head.

Though it makes more sense that puts it on when he's being tested and chucks it on purpose during the game than he does it by accident.

 

[sohum]

He isn't a chucker. There I told you.

Yeah I know, its ridicolous how they extended the laws, and made sure that his bowling degree became the limit.

Looks like you came to the party late. Over 90% of international bowlers were illegal according to the ICC findings during the, I believe, Champions Trophy two years back.

 

[Hooper]

Yeah, I know 90% of bowlers were illegal. The point Im trying to get across is, that they extended it so much that his bowling action (while doing the doosra) can be legal.

Oh, and I know "legally" he isn't a chucker. But just looking at his action - it's obvious he chucks the ball.

 

[aussie_ben91]

It makes me laugh how they spelt Muralitharan wrong in the picture. "Murali-daran".

 

[rickyp]

Pretty sure that that is how he spells it, and Muralitharan is how the English spell it. Muralidaran is correct either way.

Do we honestly have to have this topic again?

Either way.....

Shane Warne > Murali

lol had to be done!

 

[Gilly Fan]

Clicky!

 

[Almost_Austwick]

That photo only tells half the story, lets a have full run through up to the moment that the ball is released.

It's not illegal to have a bent arm when bowling, as long as it remains bent.

The law states that it's illegal to straighten your arm more than 15 degrees.

 

[andrew_nixon]

Hooper, please explain how you can tell how much someone arm straightens from a still photo?

Yeah, I know 90% of bowlers were illegal. The point Im trying to get across is, that they extended it so much that his bowling action (while doing the doosra) can be legal.

Oh, and I know "legally" he isn't a chucker. But just looking at his action - it's obvious he chucks the ball.

They extended it for everyone! How many times to people have to be told? And if it's so obvious, give us some evidence. A still photo won't do.

I've never liked the fact that they pretty much based the arm bending rule around him.

No they didn't, they based it around everyone, using scientific evidence that showed that the naked eye can not accurately detect straightening of the elbow of 15 degrees or less.

 

[Hooper]

Hooper, please explain how you can tell how much someone arm straightens from a still photo?



They extended it for everyone! How many times to people have to be told? And if it's so obvious, give us some evidence. A still photo won't do.



No they didn't, they based it around everyone, using scientific evidence that showed that the naked eye can not accurately detect straightening of the elbow of 15 degrees or less.

Well amazingly, I watch cricket. I saw Gilly Fan's video and its pretty point blank.

I know they extended it for everyone!!! Read it over andrew, I say they exteneded it to the extent that his Doosra could still be bowled in matches and be called legal.

 

[andrew_nixon]

Well amazingly, I watch cricket. I saw Gilly Fan's video and its pretty point blank.

I'm going to allow that video under fair use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pR9v27FWBM

As you say, the evidence is quite clear. As the description on the video says: "This video shows the profound elbow jerk to be an optical illusion at the speed our eyes can process"

There is hardly any straightening if you focus on his elbow, its all in the wrist.

 

[manee]

I'm going to allow that video under fair use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pR9v27FWBM

As you say, the evidence is quite clear. As the description on the video says: "This video shows the profound elbow jerk to be an optical illusion at the speed our eyes can process"

There is hardly any straightening if you focus on his elbow, its all in the wrist.

This video is interesting. Although in the first clip of Murali, there is little to no elbow jerk, there seems to be one in the final clip. Is this his doosra?

 

[andrew_nixon]

This video is interesting. Although in the first clip of Murali, there is little to no elbow jerk, there seems to be one in the final clip. Is this his doosra?

I assume so, but the straightening certainly isn't over 15 degrees.