qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
...and is this thread deceased?
Official, confirmed, verified "You are the umpire" thread
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NILAYSHAH60
Dreamcatcher
As far as I am concerned I didn't understand your last question that you had posted on this thread regarding the practice run-up
El Loco
PCPF Mod Chief Superintendent
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Surely a bowler can do a practice run up on the field without having to reach the pitch and scuff it? Just stand up a bit farther back than you usually would while bowling. Sounds like a more subtle way of doing what Shahid Afridi got done for back in the day.
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
But...a practice runup is technically legal, once the bowler informs the umpire. It's not a ball, it's not a dead ball...it's just...nothing. It falls under...well, there isn't a Law against it...
The umpire can ask the bowler to do his practice off the pitch but the bowler is well within his rights to say that it's not of any help if he can't do a warmup run on the real pitch.
The umpire can ask the bowler to do his practice off the pitch but the bowler is well within his rights to say that it's not of any help if he can't do a warmup run on the real pitch.
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
In the IPL yesterday, MS Dhoni was extremely angry about the final over. The standing umpire signalled no ball but the square leg umpire was unmoved. Dhoni took to the field (about 1 or 2 balls after he was dismissed, just BTW...in my opinion crossing into the field of play without being signalled is 5 penalty runs). He began to speak to the umpires, you could lip read him saying, "He said no ball".
It's never official until the scorers record it. End of discussion. Signals on the field are not for the crowd, not for TV, they are for the scorers. And scorers only record when the ball is dead.
EDIT: It wasn't a no ball in any case.
DOUBLE EDIT: Umpires need to throw their status around a LOT more in these kinds of games. Dhoni had NO RIGHT to just walk onto the field just like that, captain or otherwise.
It's never official until the scorers record it. End of discussion. Signals on the field are not for the crowd, not for TV, they are for the scorers. And scorers only record when the ball is dead.
EDIT: It wasn't a no ball in any case.
DOUBLE EDIT: Umpires need to throw their status around a LOT more in these kinds of games. Dhoni had NO RIGHT to just walk onto the field just like that, captain or otherwise.
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El Loco
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Had no idea it was common practice to deliberately scuff the pitch by doing this. Have you ever heard of anybody complain about bowlers doing practice run-ups on the pitch? I guess if it's legal then at the end of the day they are in their rights to do it despite their intentions.
Walking on to the field from the bench is definitely not on, he deserved to be penalised for that for sure.
Isn't it the standing umpire that determines a no-ball and only him though? What part does the square leg umpire play in determining a no-ball? Does he have to relay the decision to the scorers or something?
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
The issue in contention was whether the full toss waa above the waist or not. In such a case it's usually deferred to the square leg umpire.
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
The batsman was way out of the crease and was jumping. In a natural stance, in the crease and not airborne...nah, it was just below waist height.
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
Question: What determines the initial starting bowling end? (Actually doesn't have a "correct" answer as such, but I'd like to hear opinions.)
NILAYSHAH60
Dreamcatcher
It is mostly the Pavilion end
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
It can be either end. But in the early days of television, it became the end where the cameras were set up. In most historical grounds it's just convention, but it can actually be any end.
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
Gonna post some more scenarios over the course of the World Cup, mostly limited overs related stuff.
qpeedore
SOTM Winner - July 2014
A batsman, given out, refuses to leave the field of play. What do you do?
NILAYSHAH60
Dreamcatcher
The Umpires should try and convince the player then. If the case gets worse Match referee can interrupt. The match can even get abandoned in such cases. If it is a tournament the opposition team should get the point.
