Pakistan

You guys don't seem to realize why Razzaq is at 8. The way the Pak team is structured atm - the main role of Afridi and Razzaq and to some extent UAkmal, is to fire quick 20-30 runs at the end. The fact that they know a big hitter is coming after them, Afridi and Akmal can play their natural and aggressive shots. And if they get caught out, Razzaq comes in to finish things of (which he can, as seen by those last 2 overs against England during the 4th ODI).

There is no need for Razzaq to come in at 3, or play those gob-smacking, match-winning knocks because the batting, for once, is pretty solid.

Bowling's not too bad either. Razzaq was decent with the new-ball against SL, and if Akmal could keep and Pak could field, it would have been a very easy win for Pak.

The fact that you guys have bowlers like Riaz and Ajmal in the bench - it just shows the depth of your bowling attack. The only thing I would change is Ajaml for Rehman, and Riaz for Akhtar for the non-important games.

Against Canada, I would tempted to rest both Gul and Akhtar, and bowl both Junaid and Riaz for an easy comparison between the two left-armers.

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And Hafeez isn't too shabby for a 6th bowler. Ties one end down, and can take crucial wickets. Did so in England, and against SL when he took the first one.

Bingo! Agree with everything. I am guessing that has been the strategy by Afridi and Waqar. Plus for the last two matches our strategy has worked to the 'T' (well almost against Sri Lanka) where both Younis and Misbah were able to provide the platform. In case one falls or both, then we will only have all rounders left. So Razzaq is key, to keep the balance right.
 
You guys don't seem to realize why Razzaq is at 8. The way the Pak team is structured atm - the main role of Afridi and Razzaq and to some extent UAkmal, is to fire quick 20-30 runs at the end. The fact that they know a big hitter is coming after them, Afridi and Akmal can play their natural and aggressive shots. And if they get caught out, Razzaq comes in to finish things of (which he can, as seen by those last 2 overs against England during the 4th ODI).

There is no need for Razzaq to come in at 3, or play those gob-smacking, match-winning knocks because the batting, for once, is pretty solid.

Bowling's not too bad either. Razzaq was decent with the new-ball against SL, and if Akmal could keep and Pak could field, it would have been a very easy win for Pak.

The fact that you guys have bowlers like Riaz and Ajmal in the bench - it just shows the depth of your bowling attack. The only thing I would change is Ajaml for Rehman, and Riaz for Akhtar for the non-important games.

Against Canada, I would tempted to rest both Gul and Akhtar, and bowl both Junaid and Riaz for an easy comparison between the two left-armers.

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And Hafeez isn't too shabby for a 6th bowler. Ties one end down, and can take crucial wickets. Did so in England, and against SL when he took the first one.

Agreed to it to an extent. When I said get Razzaq to 3, the intention was just to get him some much practice annd some confidence ahead of the bigger games considering he will have to play some cameos like the 4th ODI against England, without having the time to settle in. The problem with having such a long order is that we suffer a potential bowler problem. The only place Razzaq can effectively bowl is with the new ball, and with that he isnt an aggressive option, hes just there to control the runs and hope Akhtar runs through. Furthermore as we dont have Riaz or Ajmal in the XI we are expecting Gul to bowl some brilliant death overs. Gul can be too hot or too cold depending on the day so its a potential banana skin.

I dont want Pakistan to change the strategy that got them success in NZ and against SA to an extent, but to try a possible scenario against Zimbabwe and Canada. The thing is to get guys on the bench some form going into the latter stages.

Pakistan should try and rest Rehman, Misbah and Akhtar and bring on Ajmal, Shafiq and Riaz for the next game. I still reckon we can get Razzaq at 3 just to see what he can do up the order as well and allow him time to get some confidence and form this way. Because considering the role he is going to be playing for Pakistan, he needs both of them
 
There's no need for Razzaq to have some match-practice or get into form. He's had a fabulous year in 2010 for the role he was given, and he needs to stick to it. The role you play at no. 3 is very different to what you play at no.8, and will only end up confusing him.

I agree Ajmal needs to be in the XI. But Razzaq hasn't been bad with the new ball. He was quite economical in England, not bad against SA and was decent against SL. Those are all big teams. And he complements Akhtar well. Since he's keeping things relatively quiet, it gives Akhtar complete,for want of a better word, space, to attack all-out without worrying too much about the runs he's conceding.

Pak has got a well-balanced bowling attack, and along with Aus, have got the best attack in the tournament. While Pak's doesn't match-up to the fire-power of Australia's, it is more balanced. Got one of the most scariest new-ball bowlers in Akhtar, a deadly reverse-swing yorker man in Gul for the death, a wicket-taking leggie in Afridi, and a crafty off-spinner with a deadly doosra in Ajmal.
 
Off-topic, but this could have been a very competitive Test XI:

M Hafeez
T Umar
A Ali
Y Khan
M Ul-Haq
A Shafiq
A Akmal
U Gul
M Aamir
S Ajmal
M Asif

For sure & as cricket fan i feel bad abt it everyday that Aamir/Asif are banned. Since after a decade of 2000s era of flat decks & average attacks, that new-ball partnership was just what international batsmen needed.

But even so i reckon with Gul/Riaz/Junaid PAK could still have a decent pace attack in tests.
 
Why hasn't Ajmal played a major role in any game as yet ? Hoping that he plays the next game.

As for the discussions about Razzak, well, with the fantastic batting line-up that you have, you don't wanna alter it right now. Razzak has been given the role of a floater in team. Come in when the team needs you and smash a few outside the stadia.
 
You don't get it, do you? With Afridi in the form he is, your bowling is already strong. Akhtar/Gul/Afridi/Ajmal backed up by Hafeez/Razzaq is a very potent attack.
 
Gul is the best death bowler in the world. If he continously under-performs throughout the tournamnet, then ofcourse you can change him with Riaz. Not every team has this luxury, however. But there is no need to change the balance of the team.
 
I dont think pakistan will do any change but i think they can change Rehman..instead of changing other guys in the team.Let Us give them one more chance.
 
I think we should,drop Shahzad and play Hafeez and Kamran (we don't have another choice :facepalm) as openers.Playing Razzaq at 8 on is just like wasting him.Bring in Junaid (we need to try him) and try him with the new ball with Shoaib.

Dropping Shehzed wont be a wise decision. Shehzad has a tremendous talent and he is a perfect opener with Hafeez. Bringing Razzaq at 3 is not good enough but he should be at number 7. At number 8 he is definitely being wasted. I think Junaid should be on benches, The guy cant handle the pressure of World Cup. So far, go with existing bowlers and bring Ajmal in or Wahab Riaz
 
How can you say he cant handle the pressure we found some great talents n two consecutive world cups Tanvir and Aamir.Tanvir was good but injury changed him dramatically
 
See that's the point I was making.We don't need there openers.Shahzad hasn't done anything worth a chance to play in the next match.I say,bring it Asad/Junaid (We should at least try him against the minnows).Our batting combination is wrong atm.
This is the line-up I would go with in the next match:
  • Mohd.Hafeez
  • Kamran Akmal
  • Asad Shafique
  • Younis Khan
  • Misbah-ul-Haq
  • Shahid Afridi
  • Abdul Razzaq
  • Saeed Ajmal
  • Umar Gul
  • Shoaib Akhtar
  • Junaid/Riaz
Dropping Shahzad and bringing in Asad,will surely give more strength to our middle order!:yes
 
See that's the point I was making.We don't
  • Mohd.Hafeez
  • Kamran Akmal
  • Asad Shafique
  • Younis Khan
  • Misbah-ul-Haq
  • Shahid Afridi
  • Abdul Razzaq
  • Saeed Ajmal
  • Umar Gul
  • Shoaib Akhtar
  • Junaid/Riaz

Interesting Line-up!!! But where is Umar Akaml??

@Paki!!! 50 Over World Cup has a different kind of pressure dont compare it with that 2020 one which has tanvir in it debuting. Infact we just need one extra spinner, Ajmal Rehman should both play, they should drop one more batsman, probably shehzad now, though I know he has a massive talent.
 

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