PlanetCricket Corruption Crisis

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You use the word 'team' fairly constantly in that post, and the last sentence you say 'without consulting the members.' In the context you have put it, I assume you mean members of the staff 'team' rather than the actual members of the forum.

I could be wrong, but I believe that they are as important as the staff members. The regular members make up about 90% of the members on this forum, so whilst you guys are certainly the men to decide certain things, but we are still important enough to be able to have a voice, and what Duff did was give us a voice.

Perhaps it has been so long since you were a regular member that you have forgotten, but we are actually a group of people just like you staff members, and we actually do enjoy voicing our opinions, and sometimes the only way to do that is to have someone help us out. Duff gave us a voice.

One other thing I say about this so called 'team' is that a team generally competes against another team. You make it sound as if you guys are one 'team', trying to beat the regular member 'team.' I don't think I need to explain that that once again puts us down.
Just to clarify, I meant members of the team. I didnt mention one team being more important than another team and teams most certainly dont have to compete at things to be considered a team.

If you dont understand the concept of a team and teamwork, I feel sorry for your classmates/workmates and or team mates.
 
I agree with kev, also no staff are trying to beat any members[FACT]
 
I agree with kev, also no staff are trying to beat any members[FACT]

Who said they where?

I think this thread has gone a bit sour now, well it has been for a while
 
Crisis , in a thread made to come out of crisis.
 
Seeing this for the first time and its really shattering that its come to this.However Id personally like to see things move ahead instead of pondering on and on,so Id like to give my opinions in the matter(which are solely mine and Im not speaking on behalf of the staff team or anything.)





What we need to understand is that we all acknowledge the fact that all of us cant speak perfect English.But what Id like members to do is to atleast "try" and improve their English,either by reading more at the forum or by learning the basics through ways that may help them.All this is only for other members so that they also understand exactly what each others views and opinions are.



Totally,I know for a fact that all ideas are considered especially by the higher staff,even if I dont get the time offlate to read upon things going on at the forum.Whether the ideas are considered or not are upto the staff and their decisions,which is based only on the forum and its members.



I can never ever in my time at PC felt that the staff(including my days as a member) ever reacting based on race or religion.Its entirely based on the individual and his/her attitude.



I dont think the rules are based at an adult level?



Ofcourse not.Again Id like to believe that staff members dont do that.However its not something which can be controlled to a fine level by other staff members.Its up to each individual to realise the same and Id like to believe that all of the staff,atleast the ones in the current tenure do the same.Ofcourse I can never be a judge of myself,so I'll leave that to the public and the other staff members.



Without doubt and its definately our initial aim at dealing things.But if people are not ready to accept things or if things get out of hand they must be imposing according to my opinion.



Again its something based on the individual,but I feel that most of the current staff have a level head on their shoulders.Also its possible to get that feeling looking from the outside.



1)Members are almost all the time given multiple chances.Im an ideal example after some of the things I did when I was a member.Unless youre posting things totally out of place members are always given multiple chances.

2)What does Consistency not prevailing mean? That we treat people in different ways?

3)Issues are always discussed among staff,and only when the majority of them agree to something is it implemented,so whats the problem?

4)Things getting slightly offtopic is fine imo.That doesnt mean that people should start getting totally out of place,flaming or posting rubbish.Thats when they end up getting deleted.

5)No member is ever ignored,and their opinions are based on how valid they may be.However if a member feels ignored despite this,its not something that can be controlled by the staff,unless someone in the staff is ready to provide free gifts to all members feeling ignored at their expense.



Again a similar thing,people are always ready to express as long as its within the rules,and unless they are totally getting offtopic.So if this is kept in mind when people(people i.e everyone including staff and higher staff) post then there isnt any reason to fear.

Again Id like to repeat that these are only my personal views in the matter and what I genuinely feel both as a regular(although the word regular doesnt quite suit me offlate) member and as a part of the staff.
Finally, sid does something which all other staff members should have done before sacking duff :(
 
duff gone. wow. just came to know about it yesterday night! :(

the first post is preety solid and bang on. but yea, he should have discussed it with staff. however, removing duff frm moderator was taking it far too much. but anyways, a indian saying says "bhagwan jo bhi karta hai, acche ke liye karta hai" it means, whatever god does for u , it does it for your own good.
maybe now duff would move onto better things past pckt. :)


and this reminds me of the first post.

the problem is that this forum is made of 15 yr olds, and moderated by 26yr olds.if mods feel that 15 yrs can think and act in a mature sortta way, they need some psychology lessons.

however, most of the mods do there job properly, however, some few take it too far and get the whole mod comunity tainted.

if duff has pointed it out, it must be serious. be has been an member from almost 4 yrs and know the forums inside out.
 
Just to clarify, I meant members of the team. I didnt mention one team being more important than another team and teams most certainly dont have to compete at things to be considered a team.

If you dont understand the concept of a team and teamwork, I feel sorry for your classmates/workmates and or team mates.
I do understand the concept of a team, and generally a team does have to work together to beat another team, in almost any context. In a workplace they work against rival companies, in sport they work against their opponents, and you used it in a context that suggests that there are two teams, and that Duff basicaly left your team in betrayal. On the contrary, this is a public forum and we should ALL be working together, the fact that you split us up like that suggests the opposite.
 
I do understand the concept of a team, and generally a team does have to work together to beat another team, in almost any context. In a workplace they work against rival companies, in sport they work against their opponents, and you used it in a context that suggests that there are two teams, and that Duff basicaly left your team in betrayal. On the contrary, this is a public forum and we should ALL be working together, the fact that you split us up like that suggests the opposite.

Of course we should all be working together. To extend your analogy the two teams aren't rival companies but different divisions within the same company; working cooperatively to bring about the same ends.
 
One more thing, just bringing into notice. We all have sometimes seen that a thread is full of spam without the honest thread starter coming in between. This results into closing of a thread even without the thread starter having a fault, and this can be a cause of frustration. It has happened to me many times, our threads sometimes get closed due to other members spamming. I think in this case the posts should be deleted and members given a warning.
 
* Members need to be given a second chance.


* Thread topics can cover wider issues than the topic at hand. Exploration of other related issues to a topic should be OK. Things such as getting slightly off topic shouldn’t warrant deleted posts or threads closed.

Absolutely right there. So many members have been bad and banned. Then not given a second chance. I think maybe a ban for a week and then allow them back and give them another chance. Then if they do something bad that is deemed bannable, then ban them. I think we should get have a 3 strikes and your out policy.

1st time - You get a warning
2nd time - Two week IP ban
3rd time - Permanent IP ban

And for the 2nd one, this has happened so many times. It just gets annoying.
 
Absolutely right there. So many members have been bad and banned. Then not given a second chance. I think maybe a ban for a week and then allow them back and give them another chance. Then if they do something bad that is deemed bannable, then ban them. I think we should get have a 3 strikes and your out policy.

1st time - You get a warning
2nd time - Two week IP ban
3rd time - Permanent IP ban

And for the 2nd one, this has happened so many times. It just gets annoying.

Unfortunately, you failed to realize several aspects of this discussion-
1.Members are given several chances before they are banned.
2. There was already an announcement addressing these issues.
 
Poor form.

This topic was resolved ages back and there was no need to bring up the drama again.

Well, I'm sorry for that. Someone was just talking to me about how Duff made a thread about corruption. So I thought I'd have a look.
 
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