PlanetCricket Corruption Crisis

[Kshitiz_Indian]

I think Colin only had Duff as a "admin," through the process of upgrade and always had the intention of returning him to his usual position, maybe in light of this thread it was sooner than was expected.

Spot on, if he wanted to make him admin then he would have set his primary group as admin, i.e red colour, but he only gave him privileges in his current group ( staff members ) maybe whereever duff was working has finished I am sure the mods are mature enough not to take action against duff for this thread

I have also reported some posts in this thread.
After reading 10 pages of the thread, i feel that more than 60% of the members have caused this thread turn to a direction where the thread starter didnt want to go.

He never said that IT IS time to change. He felt something, and he started a thread to ask other members if they are feeling the same ! Big deal ! No need to flame each other guys !

The mods may not be responding as they aall work in a cluster and all have to agree to one thing. If they contradict each other then the mod team is useless, since they all work on same principles. I am sure the discussion must be going on in the mods and they will soon come up with a response

I have also read somewhere that some one said that if a mod closed a thread and other mod feels it was wrong he should open it. I would like to say that had i been the mod i would have never done that. That would be feeling the other mod let down. As i said before, the mods sing and swim together, and if it is proved that two mods have clashes, then both of them being together in the mod team is useless in my opinion.

 

[sohum]

What a waste of a thread. It had so much to offer but has been reduced to petty squabbling.

 

[rickyp]

I'd like to clarify that. Duff was given admin privileges to help with the forum upgrade and he has worked very hard and done a fantastic job.
However with those priviliges he has access to the admin forums and we felt that we wanted to be able to create a thread that Duff couldn't read, like the rest of the staff, which I'll think you'll agree is entirely reasonable.
All that has happened is that Duff has been restored to the position he was in 2 weeks ago.
Please don't start making accusations based on minimal knowledge of the situation.

fair reason, I was pretty pissed off till i read that :P

Just thought I should add, this thread is now useless due to a certain few members who decided to take some sort of personal attack out of this. You know who you are, I wont name names. If you people want a better forum, stop wasting everyone else's time in a thread about it.

 

[smssia0112]

What a waste of a thread. It had so much to offer but has been reduced to petty squabbling.

I agree, this thread is to sort out some issues, when you don't have something to add to the conversation speak on MSN or something. It is ridiculous to come on here and bitch about each other, then complain that the admins and mods aren't posting here. Why would they post here when the last 4 pages or something have been utter crap?

The fact is, I didn't have a problem with most mods until today, and still don't, but the response we've recieved shows a complete lack of respect for us.

I am incredibly disappointed as I said before, about some of the responses especially by Colin, one of the most respected members of this forum, to put us all down like that. We are all important to this process, and the fact is that as Simbazz said, Duff was not speaking for himself, he was trying to mediate a sensible discussion, that started off quite well, but has now gone downhill. Duff was starting the thread because if Simbazz had, it would have been closed. The fact that one mod agrees with this shows that it has merit.

After saying all that I said I am disappointed to not even be handed a discreet PM as a response, as I believe that what I said has a lot truth and merit to it. Anyone who denies there is a problem is like denying there was a holocaust, not as severe, but certainly ou can all see this complaining going on in here? There may not be a crisis, but there is certainly a problem.

So I can go over it again, and say that us members don't recieve much respect, that mods think they're bigger than us and act to put us down at times, that being strict gets you few friends, and that I don't come on here because I want to be bossed around, rather to have a debate on whatever the topic is, even if it is off topic.

If someone is discussing someone it doesn't matter whether it matches the thread title or not, the fact is that a debate is flowing and whatever happens happens. Name one person, who really TRULY cares if we start talking about, for example, Murali in a World Cup thread? I assume you will say the mods, but does it really matter?

Talking about how no mods could never work, I happen to post on a forum called the Cats Claw, a Geelong Football Club (Aussie Rules) message board, and we have 3 admins on the site. One never posts, but helps with money flow, one posts ocassionally, and the other posts about as much as say myself. Between those 3 mods, threads are rarely closed, no posts are deleted and rarely are they even edited. There is no real stranglehold or control, and you know what, it works fine! No one complains, no one really cares at all, members are only banned in extreme cases, and if someone is being an idiot then everyone just criticizes them for it, there is no strictness at all, and the fact is that it runs as smoothly as any board could.

Now this board is bigger than that one, has a lot more members with far differing opinions, and perhaps requires more control, but the truth is, it is going too far now. What Duff did was what we would all like to have done. I considered it at one stage, but felt I would get no respect as I haven't got it before when querying things. As rickyp said, when we ask you about a closed thread or deleted post, we KNOW that we have no chance of getting it overturned. Moderators should simply be peacekeepers, to help the forum run, but at the moment they are acting like school bullies. Some mods are quite intimidating at times, and knowing that one on one is a lot less powerful than a full discussion, Duff acted to let everyone share their view together.

One member versus an admin is generally a little thing, but it's true that this HAS gotten you guys to stand up and listen.

 

[The_gas]

Christ what have i missed.

So many drama queens.

I actually agree with some of whats been said, these forums have become all to uptight over the past year or two, when i first joined it was much more laid back and friendly. I dont have problems with most of the mods or admins, but some are, well, ill leave it at that, or ill be back on a posting ban again.

I feel that any banter is best kept away from this forum now, it will end up locked or deleted.

I say bring back the style that was evident in 2004 and 2005, the glory years.

 

[siddharth2002]

Yeah, just saw this thread, frankly I don't know what to say. I usually visit this place for some light hearted fun and although some of my posts have been deleted in the past which I didn't like but its ok, when we signed up we all agreed to the rules so either take it or leave it.

 

[smssia0112]

Yeah, just saw this thread, frankly I don't know what to say. I usually visit this place for some light hearted fun and although some of my posts have been deleted in the past which I didn't like but its ok, when we signed up we all agreed to the rules so either take it or leave it.

But this is not about the rules, it is about the interpretations and attitudes of the mods and admins. The issue here is not the rules because no one disagrees with them, the only thing that we want is the mods to respect us more and to be more lighthearted, rather than being cold and abrupt with things that they do. I assume I can say anything right now since no one is posting here.

 

[handsome]

I don't think we are going anywhere unless the admins/mods come up and speak. I know they have been reading when looked up a copule of times on who's online. I don't know is there going to be relevance for this?

 

[Simbazz]

Aus5892 you gem, there are pretty much every word of your last post i agree with, its not involving the rules, its involving what needs to be done about the closure of threads prematurely. As Aus said, if a discussion is in full flow, and offtopic, it can be so fustrating to read thread closed, when it could simply be split into two threads, i know its a bit more work for mods but thats what they agreed to when accepting a place on the staff.

I feel from members we've had all we can get, id love to hear something from staff, even if its like Burma to tell us about your disappointment, either way, they only way of sorting it is by talking

 

[Jaztheman]

I can't believe what i said yestterday and i am really soryr to you simbazz. I apologise to anyone who might of been offended by any of posts. Can i just say the quicker this gets closed the less arguments and the quicker we can get the forum going, the better.

 

[evertonfan]

Bloody nora! No wonder Debenhams has hardly any handbags left.

This thread has just de-generated into nothingness now. It's caused more problems than it's solved and if you have any respect for the staff you'd all just stick a cake in it now.

Sorry to play the bad cop and spoil everyone's fun, but this thread barely has a purpose at the moment.

 

[Simbazz]

Bloody nora! No wonder Debenhams has hardly any handbags left.

This thread has just de-generated into nothingness now. It's caused more problems than it's solved and if you have any respect for the staff you'd all just stick a cake in it now.

Sorry to play the bad cop and spoil everyone's fun, but this thread barely has a purpose at the moment.

i hope people see my willingness to keep this flippin' thread on track, its becoming a farce as i said the other day, please lets just stop the bitching, whining and whatever else.

Jaz, im not really going to respond to you but say, lets just say i dont take kindly to being called such names.

 

[jkartik]

i guess the staff have stuck up to the age old method of "ignorance is bliss" !

may be they are too proud of the fact that they are a part of the staff team
of the most popular cricket forum ! but "pride makes you fall" and this is a good example !

on a site note : i am really not sure why i used all the literature

 

[barmyarmy]

I am incredibly disappointed as I said before, about some of the responses especially by Colin, one of the most respected members of this forum, to put us all down like that. We are all important to this process, and the fact is that as Simbazz said, Duff was not speaking for himself, he was trying to mediate a sensible discussion, that started off quite well, but has now gone downhill. Duff was starting the thread because if Simbazz had, it would have been closed. The fact that one mod agrees with this shows that it has merit.

I think you have totally misunderstood my post and I urge you to go back and read it again. I haven't criticised any members for airing their views nor have I said that feedback is unwelcome; I have said that this is the wrong way to go about it.
What my initial post said was that creating a thread like this doesn't provide helpful feedback for the mods; it makes their job harder. I have always invited member to PM me about concerns they have and staff members will tell you that I have acted on these PMs as appropriate and never adopted a 'staff members can do no wrong' attitude.
I did say that we run the forum and you agree to follow the rules when you sign up as included in the rules is that you don't start threads like this; you PM or e-mail or MSN the admins. This last point is, of course, totally non-negotiable if you are a staff member.
I have no problem with any of the members on this forum, have never tried to put them down or suggest they are unimportant but merely emphasised that starting a thread like this helps no-one.

 

[icyman]

I don't think elections are a good idea. I believe the admins can be trusted to select the right mods although they could be more Oprah Winfrey and less Dr.Evil.

Well how about members suggesting names for moderaters ?
Why not set up an executive committee wherein a person can complain against a particualr mod/globie if he is not happy with him ?

Also I feel that this particular thread has turned into a superthread.I think it would be better if the posts in this particular forum are not counted.