Pokemon? Mafia - Endgame | Town (BKB1991/P Squared) wins!

[Spoobir]

You guys need to stop making this stupid mistake: "anti" means opposed to or against, just because I am not part of the town does not mean I am against you, so stop saying I'm anti-town please.

 

[CG123]

@ Spoobir - What are your thoughts on the five unconfirmed people that I posted on the last page?

 

[Spoobir]

MaD - ???
Afridirulez - ???
Chewie - ???
BKB1991 - ???
Simsanta123 - ???

I'll start with Afridi since I have most on him: I hid behind him on night 2 so there is still a 50% chance of him being mafia I guess, I could have just got lucky. He's lynched both Papa and Aditya so he's not big on my sus list.

MaD: Has he claimed yet? I remember him saying he evolved on day 3 but we don't know into what. Blamed inactivity on timezones.

Chewie: Don't have a lot on him, playing the same way as last game pretty much and was town them. Lynched both mafia

BKB1991: Hasn't posted a lot since he came in late. Could be anything tbh.

simsanta123: Most of his posts haven't been very constructive, that last one especially, they've certainly caused me more confusion than anything. Hasn't lynched any mafia yet. Top sus atm.

 

[MaD]

I didn't jump on Papa, I just needed a better explanation on why we were lynching him because I didn't want to lose a town roleblocker, but when Zorax spread it out for me, it was clear that he was Mafia.
Also I couldn't use my role last night, so there's probably a Mafia roleblocker somewhere here...
I'm not really sure on anyone, nobody's been acting weirdly at all although i'll be adding to the pressure on sim-
Lynch: simsanta123

 

[CG123]

Yeah, I'd say Koffing would be the mafia roleblocker, and he's still alive (assuming he's in the game).

 

[Near]

Hmm, is it possible to have a cult role-blocker? But I am pretty sure we have koffing in the game and he is the role-blocker. Waiting for Sim to put up a defense. I am a bit suspicious of MaD, but its nothing major. And I think Afridi is cult cause he is just bringing up his inexperience and noobness whenever he is accused of being cult

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Hmm.

Thinking over it...I'm lynching MaD. I've had my doubts about him right from the start. He still has avoided a role-claim. He's not been very useful.

I also don't mind falling back on lynching Spoobir. But for the moment, Sim hasn't struck me as suspicious as MaD.

Lynch: MaD

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Tonight he was with his best friend, whom he didn't want to die. He was resolute in his mind that he'd slash away any slayer who'd come to slay his friend.

I think we have a townie/cult here with a kill role. It seems like if we kill his friend, the killer will die as well. Very interesting. Puts doubts on Spoobir and guys like MaD.

It was another protector, although it wasn't what it was originally supposed to be. It marched on with the 'protected', everywhere he went, and the 'protected' did his job without any interference.

Evolved into a protecter - my guess it's the Steelix. Would suit him too, kinda bodyguard figure. Might be MaD as well, but I doubt it.

He was the third protector, and he was supposedly with an important pokemon tonight, who slept fearlessly in his presence.

The actual doc.

Now since we know one of these three died (Ollie), and p# is alive, Ollie would either be the actual doc or the cult/friend doc. Blastoise's 'friends' would be Charizard, Bulbasaur, Pikachu, etc. - IE, not cult. So safe the say we lost our actual doc. Fark.

Other analysis:

- p#'s roleclaim still seems a bit dodgy to me, only because it's Steelix, but overall so far it's making sense. He's gaining credibility as time passes.
- I wasn't so active around the time suspicion on Sim was growing - can anyone explain to me how that came about? I don't want to just be jumping on a mafia bandwagon.
- Spoobir as cult and a lynch sounds fair to me. Also, it's very possible he's understating his roles. He was essentially the same as ARay, kinda, so he must have more than just hiding.
- We have a Pikachu here, as evident by ARay's death. I'm guessing he's a townie Jack of All Trades -would fit him. I have my ideas on who it could be but won't reveal it for the sake of their safety.
- MaD has been playing very strangely, anti townie mafia esque. His excuse that he only shifted the lynch to Papa Smurf cause he didn't understand it till I laid it out is weak. It's much more likely that he just did that to try and divert attention from him at the last moment.
- Vedarshi has been confirmed as Butterfree...but he's been playing very mafia esque too. It may be possible that all Mafia members have fake townie roleclaims that they can fall back on - Aditya could have been Lapras, and Papa Smurf might have had something but still chose Haunter in an attempt to off me. The only issue I see here is that the fake roleclaims they had have not been revealed on death. But then again, neither have their roles. It might be worth investigating Vedarshi once again if we're out of options.


So after all that...my vote stays on MaD. I feel he's given us more reason to be suspicious of than Sim. I mean, he evolved during the day after Papa Smurf was killed. A Mafia member evolving to gain new roles once a member of the mafia dies? Sounds very feasible.

 

[Chewie]

You guys need to stop making this stupid mistake: "anti" means opposed to or against, just because I am not part of the town does not mean I am against you, so stop saying I'm anti-town please.

The writeup suggests that you don't care what happens to the 'good pokemon' and so you're anti-townie.

As well as that, if you're cult, which we suspect you are, then their win condition is normally to be the only ones left. That includes getting rid of the townies.

@AfridiRulez, you don't have to know how it works to be a part of it...you could have been recruited and this is your defence as to why you aren't cult. Saying you don't understand is hardly a reason for not being cult.

Unless someone posts some substantial stuff on either MaD of Simsanta, I'm going to go with Lynch: Spoobir

 

[Spoobir]

Ok, where in the write-up does it say that and how do you know it's even about me? Even if it does say that somewhere and it is definitely about me, the write-up is just Varun's interpretation of the night phase. I've already given my reasons for why I'm betting on the town so if he thinks I don't care what the "good pokemon" are doing he's wrong.

On the cult thing, this may sound insulting but if I was cult leader do you really think I would choose AfridiRulez to be my partner?

 

[MaD]

Alright fine, I shall character claim, I guess I haven't played to well this game, but yeah, I'm Charizard, evolved from Charmander

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I did hint it before when I said p# had the right idea because he said that Charmander probably evolved as he was the first to do so in the series, although nobody picked it up...

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Ok, where in the write-up does it say that and how do you know it's even about me? Even if it does say that somewhere and it is definitely about me, the write-up is just Varun's interpretation of the night phase. I've already given my reasons for why I'm betting on the town so if he thinks I don't care what the "good pokemon" are doing he's wrong.

On the cult thing, this may sound insulting but if I was cult leader do you really think I would choose AfridiRulez to be my partner?

What I remember from past mafia games with cults that could recruit is that they could only recruit certain members (power townies and mafia were off limit, for example). I may be wrong...but yea, you could have chosen AfridiRulez because you didn't have any other options.

Or even maybe because a better townie player would probably reject the offer to join a cult.

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Alright fine, I shall character claim, I guess I haven't played to well this game, but yeah, I'm Charizard, evolved from Charmander

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I did hint it before when I said p# had the right idea because he said that Charmander probably evolved as he was the first to do so in the series, although nobody picked it up...

Charizard...daymn.

I'm guessing you've got a good power role. It's a bold claim, so I don't see anyone counter-claiming it (because Charizard would be a horrible fake roleclaim, he should definitely be in the game as a townie).

I won't pressure you into revealing your role. I mean, it must be good, but can't reveal it as it'll make life easier for the mafia. But I'm guessing it has something to do with protection, as mentioned in the write up.

So with that...

Unlynch: MaD
Lynch: Spoobir

 

[MaD]

Well no because I was roleblocked...

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No point guessing, its a bit different, evolving didn't help it much...

Anyone for a mass character claim?

 

[Spoobir]

What I remember from past mafia games with cults that could recruit is that they could only recruit certain members (power townies and mafia were off limit, for example). I may be wrong...but yea, you could have chosen AfridiRulez because you didn't have any other options.

Or even maybe because a better townie player would probably reject the offer to join a cult.

Your theory is ridiculous because it rests on me knowing every player's alignments and roles and being able to choose which person I wanted from that. The "friends" were first mentioned on night 2 so if it is a cult then the recruitment must have happened on night 1 which would have to mean Afridi being my first choice...

I should remind you that there's still 2 (estimated) mafia out there, so if you want to lynch the individual today, lose another townie tonight and go down to 9 players with 2 mafia and possibly 2 cult as well be my guest. Enjoy your loss though.

 

[Chewie]

He didn't know what the good pokemon were upto. He only knew he and his 'friend' had to survive, and they had to help themselves. As he walked through the grass, something in the dark stopped him, rendering him unconscious, and something escaped from it's shadow.

Thinking about this line again, I'm pretty sure that's Spoobir escaping from the shadow, but I think he's telling the truth when he's not aligned with AfridiRulez. It seems to suggest that Spoobir was hiding in the shadow of the one who had to survive. When the person was knocked unconscious, Spoobir came out of that person's shadow.

The writeup is rather ambiguous though - did Spoobir come out of the shadow of the one doing the knocking unconscious, or of the one with the 'friend'. I think this makes AfridiRulez more suspicious than Spoobir, either way, and so:

Unlynch: Spoobir
Lynch: AfridiRulez

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They were similar to each other in some aspects. And tonight they were together. As they sat together, one of them shouted with pain - "Ah, something bit me, it hurts!"
The other pokemon was confused. He didn't know how to reduce the pain, although he knew some other stuff, which was of no use, in this case.

Was this you MaD? Did you target Yudi? One of Hedger and Yudi died from poison - if it was Yudi, then it would make sense that another fire type, Charmander/Charizard was the one 'similar to each other in some aspects'. If we know who was poisoned, then we know when to look at those persons posts for when the mafia wanted them gone.