Puddle Mafia 02 - Game over - Sedition wins - 3rd Party Win

[Varun]

I'm clearing Sedition because the vigilante claim perfectly fits up.

You're setting yourself up for disappointment. How does it fit so perfectly?

 

[Themer]

I've cleared him but no one bothers to listen. The write ups clear him and he's been obviously protown the whole game.

 

[ved_]

The appeal to emotion, find this on every game on epicmafia. The write-up clearly mentions that.

 

[Varun]

I've cleared him but no one bothers to listen. The write ups clear him and he's been obviously protown the whole game.

And of course you're mafia.

He had hoped his return to Duckton could be positive. He wanted so desperately to save lives. Despite his best intentions, he found himself lying in bed. He didn't know why she had been so interested in him, but it hadn't taken him long to stop caring. Her touch was subtle, gentle and soft. She seemed too good to be true. His initial plan had ebbed away with the time. He didn't try and fight it, and before long he drifted off to sleep. His arms cradling his new lover. His dreams were peaceful as he lay smiling. He was too tired to hear her slip away into the night. Her work was done. It was later still when he partially awoke to the sound of the bedroom door handle turning. He smiled to himself as his eyes attempted to focus. "Come and get back into bed" he mumbled with a peaceful hum. The dark figure slowly walked towards him as his eyes began to regain their composure. He barely had time to recognise his previous night's patient before two shots buried themselves into his skull. He had so desperately wanted to save lives, but in the end he was unable to save himself.

Yeah, a dark figure is necessarily the vigilante.

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Seriously, how can't you see it? You lynch Themer, Sedition targets Smurf and mafia wins. I and you can do nothing to stop it. Unless....

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*mafia win.

 

[Sedition]

Interesting that you're coming after me Varun, since my sights are currently aimed at you tonight. Looks like you're getting desperate to get me lynched, and then what? You win then and there before we even get to night.

The only thing holding me back from lynching Themer and shooting Varun, is that the write-ups have basically handed them to us on a silver platter, assuming that Abhas tracked Themer. Not sure if PD would have done that, and Varun is right about a possible bit of bastard modding by referencing the Vampire.

 

[Varun]

He wasn't like most residents. The clouds had brought him enough respite to surface once again. His path was drowned in twilight, his loyalties equally shady.

Checking back again, and only thing that bothers me is 'his loyalties equally shady'. Seems to imply you are individually aligned.....however if your role is vampire then it shouldn't matter.

 

[Sedition]

Reading back from when Smurf re-entered the game (post #116), something seems a bit odd about his posts, though we've never played before, so whether it's consistent or not, I don't know. It's better if everyone goes back and reads them in context, and I haven't quoted all of them, but here we go

FOS: Sediton and Themer

I reckon it was one of you, or both, who knocked me off last night. Probably because you thought I was the vamp. I'm with Abhas that one of the mafia was definitely on the BKB bandwagon. I still think it was the right lynch for Day 1. BKB had no night role, and if he did, it definitely would not have been pro-town. Plus, from a selfish perspective, it allowed me to see how PD would count the DV role in the vote count.

At the moment, I'm more inclined that Themer's mafia, but that's only because he band-wagoned and not started the BKB lynch.

Regarding the write-up, is the whore an actual role or an euphanism for the role-blocker? And what makes you guys think it was the Doc who was blocked?

Expectantly eager to get involved again after being killed early, and fair enough suspicions on Themer and myself.

--- it.

Lynch: Themer

Quick to follow up the FOS, didn't realise it was the 2nd lynch placed with 4 required, by quickly removes it anyway in the next post.

Actually, is it too early for a mass role-claim?

9 players:

DV
Survivor
Tracker
Role-blocker
Cop
GF

Are the roles already confirmed. That just leaves 3, including a possible doc.

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Oh crap, didn't realize it was 4 to lynch. Don't want the mafia band-wagoning if I'm wrong.

Unlynch: Themer

Now calling for the claim, with a confirmed roleblocker present. I think that made all of us a bit uneasy, but naturally the roleblocker is someone happy to have all the roles on the table.

Forgot about Zhuorb. Just looked at his posts since the game began. All he's done is repeated what's already been said about the write-ups, a random lynch on Yoki and the hammer on BKB.

User2010's in the same boat, but atleast he has tried to post something. Useless townies are as dangerous as the mafia.

Lynch: Zhuorb

Now the suspicion shifts to Zhuorb and User.

Unlynch: Zhuorb

So that clears both him and Varun. For now, atleast anyway.

Which brings me back to both Themer and Sediton. I'm convinced one of you atleast is mafia. Whenever I've been mafia, one of the tactics has been to lead the town's discussion, or play an active part. Again, Im leaning more towards Themer, but that might just be that the last game we played together we were both mafia.

I might take a punt here. How many hours left in the game?

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That's poor reasoning. And it makes you suspcious now that Vaun's been cleared as well.

Getting a null read on Abhas as well. But he is giving town vibes. But so is Sediton...lol, don't trust any of you

Now suspicion is back on Themer and myself, since Zhuorb and Varun are supposedly clear, when Varun could be GF anyway. Closes by saying I'm giving town vibes, despite the suspicion being back on me in the opening line.

How many mafia are there? I'm inclined to think it's two, with a 3rd party already confirmed.

Survivor

Godfather
Roleblocker

Cop
Watcher
DV
(Doc)
(Vanilla)
(Vampire)

This might might be the make-up of the game. The brackets are the un-confirmed roles.

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I still think it might be a good idea to mass role-claim. With 2 people confirmed town by Zhuorb, and most of the roles confirmed; it doesn't give the mafia too much leeway for a fake claim.

Call for roleclaim again, clearing Varun again.

Lol, just realized the big hole in my logic. 2 of the confirmed roles are the GF and the roleblocker. Obviously no one's going to claim those.

Bad idea.

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Lynch: User2010

Has been as useless as Zhuorb.

and finally back to lynching User. Lots of jumping around from one person to another here. Scumhunting? Maybe, but it gives me a bad feeling.

Themer on the other hand has given me strong town vibes for most of the game. He's been more active than the last, we could probably have easily sat back and not been under as much suspicion since it was consistent. Maybe the activity is a sign that he's mafia though. The write-up certainly suggests it if Abhas was tracking him, and then "forgetting" to include Smurf has a visitor to User last night, looks like a big misstep.

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when he* not we

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Checking back again, and only thing that bothers me is 'his loyalties equally shady'. Seems to imply you are individually aligned.....however if your role is vampire then it shouldn't matter.

That's because my alignment can change.

Lots of jumping around from one person to another here. Scumhunting? Maybe, but it gives me a bad feeling.

That's a rather strange analysis. I'm sure if you do that for everyone else, you'll get somewhat of the same picture. I haven't been jumping as you seem to imply. I've constantly re-iterated my suspicions on Themer throughout the game. Since the day's discussion wasn't going anywhere (because of Zhuorb's and User's inacivity), I decided to lynch them because useless townies are of use to no one.

Varun's conversation with Zhuorb has sort of convinced me he's the GF.

 

[Sedition]

As I said, everyone should go back and read the posts in context, and no not everyone was doing the same thing.

Abhas had his suspicions on BKB's lynchers, but remained consistent. Themer and User cast some suspicions, but they also seem consistent, and 2/3 are confirmed town now anyway.

Varun looks a bit dodgy, but on one hand we have an innocent result, and if he is actually vanilla, then it explains why he seems confused and is going after me today, since he hasn't been able to gain any info at night.

Smurf and Themer going after each other is expected, but then if they're both mafia and think I'm shooting Varun tonight, they know they'll win anyway.

Themer making the case against Smurf, then forgetting to include Smurf as a visitor to User could prove to be a very costly mistake for the town, because that's something I just can't buy.

If Yoki was the roleblocker and not the GF, then it's hard to believe that PD would allow the lone mafia to control his block and the kill. Yoki as GF is the only way I could see that happening.

Themer's gotta be the roleblocker I feel, so it's just a matter of whether I target Varun or Smurf tonight.

Would like to hear from Zhuorb again before deciding.

 

[Varun]

Varun's conversation with Zhuorb has sort of convinced me he's the GF.

A coincidence that your post comes just when Sedition analyzes you in a very long post and his suspicions are back on you again. I have been trusting you because it's clear to me you're the vampire but still you seem to play in an almost weird way, especially after Sedition's analysis.

 

[puddleduck]

Vote Count

Themer (1) - Papa Smurf
Papa Smurf (1) - Themer

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. There are 24 hours left in the day.

I'll modkill the lot of you at some point

 

[Sedition]

Pretty annoying when the only other confirmed sticks to his usual 1 post per day strategy.

 

[Sedition]

Not sure how active I'll be between now and the deadline, so no point waiting any longer. I've already made up my mind about Themer, if I'm wrong so be it.

Lynch: Themer

Might aswell just flip a coin to decide who to shoot tonight, couldn't be any worse than how I ended the last two games.

 

[ved_]

Okay, Sedition please unvote for the moment. Although I'm a bit suspicious of him too, I'm checking back on some of everybody's posts.
Somewhat analytical post coming up.

 

[Sedition]

Unlynch: Themer

Will be back later to check in hopefully.