Puddle Mafia 02 - Game over - Sedition wins - 3rd Party Win

[Varun]

Must have been a typo. Obviously I meant to say that Zhuorb had confirmed me as town, and I wasn't a PR, so it was best I that I claimed. And I did, but in conjunction to that I tried to bluff, so that mafia would be left confused as to who to target. I felt staying quiet would not be as effective as bluffing. Guess I overdid it though.

And I don't get why you guys think even till now that I was initially suspicious of User because of his activity. I only called for him to post. I only became suspicious later when you and Smurf lynched him, and more after you had that apparently theatrical conversation with him. I was just waiting for the deadline, since I wanted to make most of our time, but then PD asked for our votes for extension and I voted and went off to sleep wrongfully convinced that we'd get the majority.

I think I gave my reasons for holding off from BKB's lynch. It's not my fault I don't get the chance to vote since he gets hammered when I'm offline (and that too because of a double voter).

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Oh, and it doesn't work that way, Sedition. The general rule for a mafia win is when they equal or outnumber rest of the players, not town. I am disappointed you don't know this, or you actually do?

 

[puddleduck]

Vote Count

Themer (1) - Papa Smurf

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. There are 52 hours left in the day.

 

[Sedition]

Very risky play there Smurf.. So you're the Vampire, or Saulus as mikeburnfire primarily calls it.

So you're going after the roleblocker, which leaves the Godfather. If he has a one-time bulletproof protection (as he did in PD's last game), then he can convert you tonight while my attempt is blocked by the vest. That would leave 2 mafia (you and Varun) and 2 town (me and Zhuorb) and a win for the mafia.

If we lynch the Godfather, then I will be blocked and you will be converted, which again leaves 2 mafia (you and Themer) and 2 town (me and Zhuorb) for a mafia win.

I guess our only shot then is to lynch the roleblocker and hope there's no vest on the Godfather.

I know one of Smurf and Themer is mafia though, so if it's Smurf fakeclaiming, then lynching Themer will lose us the game right now.

 

[Varun]

The tracker went after someone who he was suspicious of last night. Abhas had a lynch on Themer throughout Day 2. The write-up suggested he was going after a woman, and as the write-ups have confirmed, the role-blocker is the prostitute. I'm certain Themer is the roleblocker.

Lynch: Themer

The innocent mask thing Sedition mentioned of the write-up makes sense, and it would fit Varun perfectly, being cleared by Zhuorb yesterday.

I'm the Vampire. When the mafia target me at Night, instead of dying, I join their cause. I'm currently Town aligned, and if Sedition is telling the truth, then he can knock Varun off tonight, and I won't get targeted.

What I expected, but the only problem is that you might be taking advantage of the writeup in the same way BKB did in last game. You being mentioned in the day's writeup was slightly odd, and I won't be surprised if PD did a bit of bastard-modding again, since we were all have been speculating on the possibility of a vampire all the game, and it'd be decisive.

Themer-Sedition, Themer-Papa Smurf, Papa Smurf-Sedition, all the possibilities seem open to me now.

 

[Themer]

I'm at my Grans at the moment when I get back I'll give a proper review. I highly doubt that the mafia just went after Abhas because he'd been putting pressure on someone the previous day Smurf.

Roles are more important than petty politics and they've obviously gone to take out the mor important roles.

 

[Varun]

Can you roleclaim Themer, just before you go off?

 

[Papa_Smurf]

He wasn't like most residents. The clouds had brought him enough respite to surface once again. His path was drowned in twilight, his loyalties equally shady.

Was he merely legend? Did he even exist? His pale features highlighted his hatred of the sun, but for now he remained hungry only for resolution.

Both these mention my role. A vampire is the perfect description of those instances. And as there hasn't been a death-less night yet, it means I haven't been targeted yet. I am (currently) Town-aligned.

I guess our only shot then is to lynch the roleblocker and hope there's no vest on the Godfather.

Exactly my reason for going after Themer and not Varun.

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I'm at my Grans at the moment when I get back I'll give a proper review. I highly doubt that the mafia just went after Abhas because he'd been putting pressure on someone the previous day Smurf

I know that. But the write-up specifically mentioned Abhas went after who he was was suspicious of. That was you.

 

[Varun]

The first one also matches the description of a survivor. The second one, I don't trust at this point of the game.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

What I expected, but the only problem is that you might be taking advantage of the writeup in the same way BKB did in last game. You being mentioned in the day's writeup was slightly odd, and I won't be surprised if PD did a bit of bastard-modding again, since we were all have been speculating on the possibility of a vampire all the game, and it'd be decisive.

Themer-Sedition, Themer-Papa Smurf, Papa Smurf-Sedition, all the possibilities seem open to me now.

Themer-Varun seems the most logical, if we follow the write-ups and the course of the game. If I'm wrong, then Sedition's played one hell of a game, but I think he's town.

I'm not manipulating anything. If you've got a better explanation as to who those 2 'vampire' paragraphs are referring to, then go ahead.

 

[Sedition]

Oh, and it doesn't work that way, Sedition. The general rule for a mafia win is when they equal or outnumber rest of the players, not town. I am disappointed you don't know this, or you actually do?

Your explanation is plausible, but I still find it very suspicious that you claimed vanilla when you were a good chance of being targeted anyway for being confirmed town. Wouldn't be the first time that a townie did something unexpected in my mind though, so if you're telling the truth, that would make Smurf and Themer mafia.

For Smurf to be mafia (which was Yoki), then I suspect PD allowed the only active mafia to control both the roleblock and kill, which isn't a big deal of Yoki was GF anyway.

As for the win condition, I was going by a game I saw that had a Survivor and equal town and mafia, with mafia and survivor taking the win. I guess it depends on the mod though, but I've always thought that when mafia and town are equal, mafia wins.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

The first one also matches the description of a survivor. The second one, I don't trust at this point of the game.

Look at the wording. Clouds brought him respite (i.e. no sun); path drowned in twilight - the time when vampires are supposed to be active (and also the name of a popular romance series starring vampires )

 

[Varun]

Hmmm, if twilight refers to that then I believe you're telling the truth. That leaves only.....Themer and Sedition. Themer should be lynched I guess, but it would be just idiotic if we do it before he claims.

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Your explanation is plausible, but I still find it very suspicious that you claimed vanilla when you were a good chance of being targeted anyway for being confirmed town.

Not really, why would mafia target me when someone like Abhas/Smurf or you are still alive? It is relatively easy to implicate me as you with Themer have easily done. Now try to implicate Abhas as mafia.....everyone would listen.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Not really, why would mafia target me when someone like Abhas/Smurf or you are still alive? It is relatively easy to implicate me as you with Themer have easily done. Now try to implicate Abhas as mafia.....everyone would listen.

This is really suspicious. You're deliberately trying to under-mine yourself to explain your actions, which kind of shows desperation. Never seen you do that before.

I'm still not convinced your mafia or town, btw. I'm leaning towards mafia, because it fits in with the write-ups, but like I said, Sedition could be playing a blinder.

Themer's the dirty whore. That's for sure

 

[Themer]

Right from what I can gather the most important thing to have happened here is Smurf claiming Vampire. I just don't see how that is in anyway a good thing for a townie to have done in that situation. You've basically handed the mafia a massive advantage if you were telling the truth as they now know who to target come
Night fall and theres no doc to stop them doing so.

Not only that but you've repeatedly tried to convince people to role
claim at the silliest point where you could have given away major roles that were keeping people well protected or at least would have given us a chance of finding the culprit had they done as they wanted. If the watcher had claimed when you'd said he should the gamer would have been over.

I am the watcher. There is one. It's why I was correcting people earlier in the game when they suggested it was a tracker we had because I knew different or at least thought I did.

Night one I watched Sed. He was visited by Smurf and Abhas. We now know Abhas is in the clear and the write up suggests that he was roleblocked as we now know to be the case providing he's telling the truth which I know he is as last night I watched User. Visited by Sed

Smurfs done a grand job and nearly pulled it off. I suspect the reason that Yoki was allowed to drift through night one was because of his partner taking on his role/telling PD what to do.

I suspect that Varun is his partner in crime, everyone else has a role it would be plain odd if he didn't. Also note how Smurf was eager to know whether Sed could kill again tonight. He wanted to know so he knew how to play today. Also worth noting that we have to get the roleblocker which Smurf is as he was seen with Sed night one rather than going for Varun.

Lynch:Smurf

 

[puddleduck]

Vote Count

Themer (1) - Papa Smurf
Papa Smurf (1) - Themer

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. There are 50 hours left in the day.