Retirements Thread - Virat, Rohit and Jadeja T20Is

Klassen wont be missed. Even though he is a great limited overs batsman, his test presence wont be missed due to the fact he has only played 4 tests.
 
icyman said:
Heinrich Klaasen reites

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Heinrich Klaasen retires from Test cricket

He will continue to be available for South Africa in white-ball formats
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End of Test cricket is nearer than you think
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Sarcasm I hope?

Klaasen retiring from Tests = Rahane retiring from T20Is
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'Thank You Gup' day in Auckland on January 4 to celebrate Guptill's career

The Eden Park Outer Oval will become 'The Martin Guptill Oval' for testimonial Super Smash game
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Has this guy retired? Not sure why he is being celebrated in NZ these days....If he is retired, can anyone link an article for the same?
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Not officially but I think there is a clear communication from NZ to him that they won't pick him anymore and he's probably gonna announce retirement any day.
 
icyman said:
www.espncricinfo.com

'Thank You Gup' day in Auckland on January 4 to celebrate Guptill's career

The Eden Park Outer Oval will become 'The Martin Guptill Oval' for testimonial Super Smash game
www.espncricinfo.com www.espncricinfo.com

Has this guy retired? Not sure why he is being celebrated in NZ these days....If he is retired, can anyone link an article for the same?
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A testimonial isn’t really an indication for a retirement and he’s still in okay-ish form and has enough pedigree to get some T20 deals. Having said that it wouldn’t surprise me if he does decide to call it a day.
 
The most unique pacer over the last decade finally decides to call it a day.
 
Another Protean export. Sometimes, I think, what if, just what if, SA was devoid of all of its problems- they certainly would have been a feared opposition with quality players all throughout.
 
icyman said:
Another Protean export. Sometimes, I think, what if, just what if, SA was devoid of all of its problems- they certainly would have been a feared opposition with quality players all throughout.
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If you believe he would be playing ahead of prime Steyn, Morne and Philander I’d like whatever you’re having please.
 
Nah, he wouldn't have played ahead of them. However, the bench could have been stronger.

Also, if you look at the likes of Pietersen, Elliott, etc, SA of today would have definitely been on par with the SA of the 1990s for sure.
 
icyman said:
Nah, he wouldn't have played ahead of them. However, the bench could have been stronger.

Also, if you look at the likes of Pietersen, Elliott, etc, SA of today would have definitely been on par with the SA of the 1990s for sure.
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Pietersen was a mediocre off spinner when he was in SA. He wouldn’t have turned into one of the best test batters of his time if he had continued his development there. I do think that’s an important thing that people seem to miss when it comes to SA losing out on talents; many of them emigrated very early and frequently due to non-cricket reasons, some of them were nowhere near the skill level at that time (like Wagner and Elliott) or had stagnated (like Conway). A lot of their best development to bring them to the level of international cricket happened outside of the SA system.

I also think too much emphasis is placed on the ‘ones lost’ so to speak because it holds a compelling narrative. In reality Elliott (as much as I like him) wouldn’t have played anywhere near the same number of games for SA because there were other domestic all-rounders capable of offering what he did.
 
I hear you. It is always a case of 'what ifs?'. There's definitely no guarantee that these guys would have played the same number of games for SA. I mean, even if MSD, VK were to give up on Indian dreams and move elsewhere, the systems would have their bearing on them.

In the years to come, someone might even say the same about the talents the world has seemingly lost to USA of late.
 
icyman said:
I hear you. It is always a case of 'what ifs?'. There's definitely no guarantee that these guys would have played the same number of games for SA. I mean, even if MSD, VK were to give up on Indian dreams and move elsewhere, the systems there would have their own bearing on them.

In the years to come, someone might even say the same about the talents the world has seemingly lost to USA of late.
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As an example, Akash Singh currently has quite mediocre numbers for a domestic pacer and one stint as an injury replacement in the IPL. If he were to leave for the US I doubt anyone would particularly miss him from a national perspective. However if he does develop to an international standard in the next few years owing to the MLC and freelancing in T20 leagues around the world everyone outside of the Indian fandom would have conversations similar to what you say would happen even if we know his career would have never panned out in a similar fashion if he were still with Rajasthan’s domestic team.
 
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