"See how many we get" mafia - Endgame. BKB1991, mafia, wins

[Sedition]

The "we don't like your type" has been focused on a bit and has raised some questions over one of Zhuorb and Varun, but I think it was you, Sim, that mentioned earlier that it could just be because Watcher is a snoopy type role. That was my thought too since no one had claimed when it was written, so it was probably a hint to Zhuorb that could be interpreted either way I guess.

I'm not going to bother going back over all your posts and find scummy things, since Zhuorb has said he has reads and whatnot, so I'll let him share those and convince the rest of the town if he's right.

My reasons for a possible lynch are just that Hated Townie is a dangerous role to keep until mylo/lylo/whatever. Jailkept and no kill went though. And since Zhuorb probably can't jailkeep the same person in consecutive nights, you're the only one that can't be jailkept tonight. That's not enough for me at this stage, so yeah, eager to hear Zhuorb's reads on you that make him so sure.

Just waiting on that claim from Themer though. He was viewing the thread earlier when I asked, so I'm looking forward to a well thought out post from him when he returns.

 

[Varun]

Unlynch: PD

Yudi being individual makes it unlikely that PD is self aligned, and I am sure he's not mafia, so might as well put him down as town. Sedition is confirmed town for me (fearsome tweak me if he's been the mafia role cop all along and has fooled us all), not too sure on Zhuorb, Sim and Themer, BKB is suspicious and User has faded back into inactivity.

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"No-one seemed to pay much attention to him. That was exactly how he liked it."

Note that it doesn't allude that the person is necessarily mafia. But it is likely that this person is User. He has been inactive, and nobody has focused much on him. I'd go one step forward and say I think he's also not been night targeted as of now. Since he's the only one left to claim, I'd say he comes out and do it. And of course be active.

 

[simsanta123]

the line abt nobody paid much attention to him shd be referring to yudi. when i first read this line, i had a feeling it was referring to a survivor kind of role and i think i even mentioned it. user was targetted night 1 by sedition so its not like he hasnt been targetted at night.
that being said, user and zhourb really need to be more active than they have been.

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i personally wont clear pd until there is some sure mention of a bus driver in the night write up.

 

[Sedition]

Both of them were on the same mission. They came to slightly different conclusions though.

Two scenarios coming to mind here, well actually more, but it's a lot of what-ifs, the first is still most likely to me.

1. Same mission - Investigation on the same person (PD). So mafia rolecop and cop. Slightly different conclusions - I get innocent, while rolecop gets the role. Most people thought PD was a 3rd party, so it would definitely be in the mafia's best interest to confirm which 3rd party exactly. If this is the case, PD can't be mafia anyway, even if I'm naive, no reason to investigate him. Two 3rd parties? Kinda doubt it.
2. Same mission - targeting Sim. Zhuorb and mafia both target him, one is successful, while the other not. It says "slightly different results" though, so doesn't exactly fit.

And I'd prefer a full claim from Themer before User's claim. He's already given away the self defence part, while User has a town result on him.

 

[Varun]

the line abt nobody paid much attention to him shd be referring to yudi. when i first read this line, i had a feeling it was referring to a survivor kind of role and i think i even mentioned it. user was targetted night 1 by sedition so its not like he hasnt been targetted at night.
that being said, user and zhourb really need to be more active than they have been.

But would Yudi like it that way? His inactivity was eventually going to get him modkilled/lynched. User or BKB fits it more.

2. Same mission - targeting Sim. Zhuorb and mafia both target him, one is successful, while the other not. It says "slightly different results" though, so doesn't exactly fit.

But both Zhuorb and mafia were already mentioned in writeup. I don't think they'd be referred to twice.

 

[Sedition]

Oh yeah, I meant to write that too.. that second scenario really doesn't fit, but #1 should remove the doubt about PD possibly being mafia too, whether I'm naive or not.

 

[Sedition]

As I said, I find it interesting. Only way is that both Sedition and Varun let us know what they have got. We can then move on. A mafia BD? I don't really know. PD has been gunning for Themer from some time. And, Themer has been going for PD. I don't know what to make of this..

Over 36 hours without another post.. I'm not asking for a claim yet, but the fact you've been silent for so long, despite often showing online, is pretty aggravating.

Not helping our cause when two supposedly confirmed townies won't share their thoughts, or just aren't following the game.

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Come to think of it, why even have a day phase at all? Let's all just play night role mafia and only post our results with no analysis.

 

[Sedition]

Lynch: Themer until he claims.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Apologies. I know I've been coming on but haven't been posting in here. Tbh, I'm kinda bored of the game. And, for my claim, I think it doesn't really matter much. So, I'm claiming now. I think everyone have. I'm a Priest. Can't hammer anyone. That's it. And, Varun that line doesn't refer to me. It would be Yudi or BKB. I don't know.

 

[ved_]

User, if you hammer are you killed or is it just that your vote does not count?

 

[Sedition]

A Priest is a role whose player cannot cast a hammer vote. An attempt to cast a hammering vote may be met either with a vote count where the Priest's vote does nothing (confirming the player as a Priest), or a modkill.

Hmm so there is a way to test the claim, though risking a modkill. Sim claims he's Hated Townie and thus only requires 4 lynches. Varun, myself and Zhuorb have a lynch on Sim, and User attempts to hammer. Since he's bored of the game, a modkill isn't a big deal.

First I want Themer's claim though, it shouldn't be that hard to tell us his full role. Has been viewing the thread numerous times that I've seen.

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And if User's lynch stands, Sim can't be Hated Townie obviously. I'm using myself, Varun and Zhuorb as the lynchers because our roles are pretty well known, and we're not likely doublevoters/executioners etc.

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Also if the lynch stands, Sim could die and User would be mafia.

 

[Gaurav_7]

User, if you hammer are you killed or is it just that your vote does not count?

Obviously I'll be killed. Mod killed, that is.

 

[ved_]

Yeah, nice logic there, Sedition. I suggest that User2010 hammers, because even if simsanta123 and User2010 are town, and mafia are successful in killing tonight, there will be 5 people left, so we should technically still be able to win.

 

[Sedition]

So unless I'm missing something..

3 lynches placed on Sim by town PRs, takes 4 to lynch Hated Townie. User attempts to hammer:

If modkilled/lynch removed - User is Priest and Sim is Hated.
If lynch stands and game continues - Sim is not Hated and User may or may not be Priest
If lynch stands and Sim dies - Sim is Hated and User is Mafia
If anyone else gets involved - They are mafia.

Since there's a decent chance that they're both telling the truth, the first option is not exactly a favourable result.

Themer has to claim before any of this though.

 

[BKB1991]

I still dont see why you suspect me Sedition, but I guess I cant really change your opinion.

Well since my prime lynch candidate is gone, I am thinking about the others. Yudi was an individual aligned, so there is a possibility that we have a survivor, but finding him is really unnecessary.

I would like to hear Themers role too so we can have all the claims. Since alot of town roles have been stated, we need to look at the nights write up to see who is and isnt in the game.