"See how many we get" mafia - Endgame. BKB1991, mafia, wins

[ved_]

I jailkept Themer.
I seriously don't even understand a single thing going on, with 6ry4nj turning mafia even though User2010 was innocent. That was pretty lame on User2010's part, though.
Lynch:Themer
That's the only person left who can possibly be mafia, I think.

 

[Sedition]

I guess 6ry4nj essentially submitted the kill on himself since Themer was blocked.

Still need BKB's result before any decisions can be made though, so hopefully he comes through soon.

 

[puddleduck]

Well zhuorb not grasping what happened is a little suspect. Posting from my phone at the moment though so annoying to read everything and type Logic would dictate that themer is final mafia, but I'm not ruling out that zhuorb has been the mafia jk?

 

[Sedition]

Yeah I'm still suspicious of everyone for fairly legitimate reasons in my mind BKB's results need to be known and digested before we can do anything really. I guess it's a long list with the jk'ing, bus driving, kill attempts, maybe investigated by the rolecop.

 

[barmyarmy]

Vote count

Themer - 1 (Zhuorb)

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

 

[Sedition]

Still 2 people yet to even post after almost a day Too bad we can't afford more mislynches..

 

[puddleduck]

Yeah we can if there's only one mafia left? Forget to count yourself?

 

[Sedition]

Yeah we can afford 1 mislynch and a kill tonight, but I need at least 2 mislynches to make me happy

 

[Sedition]

Since we can't do anything except sit around doing our best Yudi impression, might aswell waste some time on the write-up enigma codes.

pultanwood in italics and es bolded. Haven't gotten very far with this one.. town something?

herrteoesi were extra letters, and maybe a second t for burned/burnt. Three.. There is.. Seer (werewolf name for cop).. I've got nothing basically.

 

[puddleduck]

Ha I understand what you mean about the mislynches

As I said when I decided to actually stop playing vaguely scummy to avoid being night killed, let's just use plain old logic instead of trying to decipher clues that have remained faily vague throughout. The mass claiming was essential, as in any blind game like this we could have been dealing with anything. It instantly highlighted some scummy players as well as allowing the town to target correctly (something the mafia already had an advantage with anyway).

Since I swapped you and 6ry I can now safely say I think you must be town as I can't see any reason why you would be targetted by the mafia for the night kill. However at the same time you must be naive as you received a town result on User who later turned out to be mafia (this hunch was somewhat more accurate than my Varun hunch ha).

So all previous results from you are essentially void (unless User was actually GF or had some kind of protective powers - worth checking the writeup from that night again?).

Mark (on a hunch) seemed to be playing his usual quiet game earlier on.. however this was obviously countered by the fact he eventually subbed out due to being too busy. His replacement Themer has been fairly scummy since getting involved and his desperate attempts to lynch me off on the back of a seemingly unconnected mafia pressure lynch/attempted bandwagon certainly was enough for me to believe he was mafia. His claim pretty much forced me to reconsider though, and since I was the only person putting any pressure on him, the pressure on him subsided. He is logically the prime candidate as final mafia member. However if his claim is genuine, he can feasibly lose the game for town when he gets lynched if he takes out the wrong person (probably still gunning for me even now )

I thought BKB's claim was BS with you and Zhuorb in the game on the town side. However the writeup certainly implies he acted last night, whilst the fact you seem to be naive certainly justifies BKB's role.

Zhuorb is the interesting one. Very little analysis at any point in the game. Ruthless and borderline manipulative at times. If he's mafia, he set up Sim, potentially by Jk'ing Sim and getting someone to target Sim as well. I believe it said Sim was framed after all. However, I think I'm potentially being overimaginative here and Zhuorb is indeed town (earlier writeups all but confirmed it if I remember correctly?) leaving only...

Themer as the most obvious choice.

However before lynching him off, I would quite like to hear BKB's results... seeing as his role could still exist as a mafia role of some sort... not to mention it would be good to hear who visited Varun and when.

Logic says Themer is the final mafia. If he turns out to be town, then it must be Zhuorb?

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@ Sedition. Who'd you investigate last night. Assuming town result on BKB? Or perhaps you got couldn't use your role trying to investigate Themer?

 

[puddleduck]

My phone has bkb as reading the thread, surely something to contribute?

 

[BKB1991]

yea I was just had to go back for dinner.

Well my investigation yielded the following. "You have found traces of Sedition, Themer, Zhuorb, 6ry4nj and Puddleduck on the body".

I asked Colin some questions regarding this and he said that these names are not in any specific order and they are names of people that Varun targetted AND people that targetted Varun.

We need to draw a list of when Varun's night activities and that includes when you people targetted him. Hopefully when we get them in the right order we might be able to infer something from it.

 

[Sedition]

Themer's the one that really shouldn't be there, he doesn't have a night role. PD bussed himself with Mark/Themer on the night Varun attempted to watch PD, but was blocked. Even so, that shouldn't put Themer as a visitor to Varun.

I never investigated Varun, so the only reason I would show is from when PD bussed me and Varun, thereby putting me at Varun's house so to speak, and obviously PD too.

and PD, I investigated BKB last night and came up innocent as expected. I hadn't revealed yet incase BKB was going to claim Zhuorb jailkept him instead and tried to implicate Zhu, which obviously I knew wasn't the case.

If we lynch Themer and he turns out to be town, then I'm looking at BKB. Need to check over some of these mafia framing roles though, I remember seeing one that can forge reports.

 

[puddleduck]

Hmm, not sure Varun ever watched Themer...

He tried to watch me when he was jailkept by Zhuorb and I obviously targetted him and Sedition. He watched Zhuorb as well. The interesting part is how both 6ry and Themer both have traces on him since surely only one of them submitted a kill. One of them must be a mafia investigative role... or you're lying

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So it's either Themer the logical choice (and probably mafia win if he's telling the truth).

BKB as a mafia investigative role who is now trying to frame Themer.

Zhuorb as a mafia jailkeeper who helped framed Sim.

 

[Sedition]

It's who visited Varun, not who Varun visited. Zhuorb appears because of the jailkeep, PD appears because of driving, which is also why I appear.

So either Themer visited as mafia rolecop/kill attempt, or BKB is attempting to frame him.. or something else twisted.

What if User/6ry was traitor?

- The Traitor may give negative results to Cops
- Some moderators allow for Mafia teams to kill their Traitors with the factional kill. Other times, the Traitor is immune to kills from their Mafia (in which case if the Mafia tries to kill them there is no kill that Night).

Since it seems the mafia tried something clever with implicating Sim, and possibly blocking their own kill, the two guys who's roles seem capable of that are PD and Zhuorb. But then if BKB and Themer are lying, who knows what role they really have..