"See how many we get" mafia - Endgame. BKB1991, mafia, wins

More reading comprehension failures?

"Varun targetted AND people that targetted Varun."
 
Yeah I skimmed it when I saw Themer's name mentioned :p

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Varun watched me Night 0, attempted PD Night 1 and we don't know who on Night 2.. perhaps it was Themer then.
 
This game has been made infinitely harder for me throughout by the fact that the reading level of the players has bordered on preschool at times :p

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He said he watched Zhuorb...

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http://www.planetcricket.org/forums/2353341-post266.html

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We don't know who he watched on night 3. However the kill should take priority over the watch. I would presume it was 6R that killed him seeing as he was cleared as "town" at that point.
 
err yeah he watched Zhuorb on Night 2, so maybe Themer was Night 3 when he died, though I have a feeling it was me that he was watching.. so maybe that's why I appear and not because of the bus.
 
Don't worry guys, I'll just be the only one paying attention then :lol
 
Well I can be forgiven since I've been waiting all day, and seeing Themer's name just jumped out :p The fact he still hasn't even posted today, and all the reasons I wanted to lynch him before for the crap claim, following lynches, not providing any insight.. all signs point to him really.
 
Ok... well the role forensic investigator is not listed as getting the people they targetted anywhere...

Has BKB pulled out a claim and then made up a list of names based on everything Varun posted before? Why are both potential mafia roles in Varun's visited/targetted?

Obviously Varun targetted Sedition early in the game, so that explains why Sedition is there... but is this Barmy's own take on the role, or has BKB slipped up?

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Would be nice of Themer to act like a townie at some point...

For example, Sim accepted he'd been a bit dodgy and might have done the same... Themer should surely be offering to take vengeance on BKB as his obvious framer??? Except he isn't because he probably knows it's game over once he is lynched?

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Sod it. We have a mislynch anyway.

If Zhuorb is town, he needs to block BKB if this isn't game over. As long as he does that, I will obviously switch from either me or Sedition back to Zhuorb to make any chance of him being the final mafia a 50-50 coin toss of him not killing himself. If BKB dies, then Zhuorb has been lying all along anyway and we lynch him off the next day.

As long as Themer targets BKB with his vengeance we should still win if Themer is town. The more I think about it, the more I think the balance seems about right anyway. If Themer is mafia, then one of them was probably a rolecop of some kind... User as GF, Themer as mafia rolecop?

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He still hasn't really posted anything useful in this game (that includes Mark) other than to try and follow Manlys random "pressure lynch" on me with another lynch some 12 hours later.

Even if a lot of you failed to understand the concept of me basically being the town doctor, the mafia did not.

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Lynch: Themer
 
Yeah that's another reason why I jumped the gun.. I was only expecting a list of people that had visited Varun. I was hoping BKB would mention Themer, as it pretty much means that either BKB is lying to implicate him, or Themer is indeed guilty.

The only explanation for Themer being there if BKB is telling the truth, is Varun watching him the night he died. Which as you mentioned, the kill would surely rule that out. Also, I don't see any reason for him to watch Themer that night anyway.
 
Yeah it's pretty decided really for me. Either Themer is final mafia or BKB has framed him.
 
Since Themer has been reading this thread.. I'd kind of at least expect him to say BKB has been lying?
 
Themer also said he can only kill one of the people that lynched him, which is also a variation of the role on mafiascum, which just says they can choose a player to kill.

In case Themer is telling the truth, BKB has to be a lynchee.

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or lyncher? whatever.. BKB has to put a lynch on Themer if we're axing him.
 
Good point... although the more I think about it, the more I think it was just a desperate claim and doesn't really matter :p

He can stick to his original plan and lynch me off whilst Zhuorb jailkeeps BKB and you two can lynch him off tomorrow. Let's just get this over with :p

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BKB must be telling the truth. The writeup pretty much places him as town sided investigator. Certainly confirms the presence of one anyway and without a vigilante would be a fairly strange mafia role in this game. Themer/User were mafia rolecop, the other one killed Varun. Remember they investigated the same person but got slightly different results? You investigating Varun and getting town, the mafia rolecop getting watcher?

Earlier writeups have pretty much confirmed Zhuorb I think whilst my swapping of you confirms you as town for me too.

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To add to BKB telling the truth... if you look up a role to claim, you sure as hell don't get what it can do wrong because you only have what is written to go on. Must be Colin's variant on the role.
 
Might aswell do it right. Town should win if BKB hammers Themer and Themer vengeance kills BKB.

If they're somehow both town though, Zhuorb needs to jailkeep you if he's town, and you need to guess his target and redirect if you're town :p I'm suspicious of everyone still basically.

I'm not trusting my results or the write-ups much anymore. It seems that someone was able to frame Sim, and the two people capable of that are PD and Zhuorb with their roles.

PD seemed pretty upfront with his drives and was generally one of the first to give results, which checked out with everyone else's that followed. And now with a mafia being night-killed, I figured there's no way PD could be mafia.. the Traitor role does allow for killing a team mate though, and shows town to cops so eh.. anything's possible.

Zhuorb hasn't contributed a great deal and openly said he was keeping everything to himself. If I hadn't investigated him on N0, then his play would definitely have rated him amongst Manly and Yudi. The innocent result means very little considering I could just be naive. 2 days where the only contribution was to lynch Sim looks pretty bad too.

Now there's overthinking for you. It's Themer, but BKB needs to hammer it and vengeance killed :p
 
Don't forget that Themer/6r could have just known that Sim was getting Jk'ed that night seeing as it was pretty obvious ;)

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I think their plan was to kill you the next night and then with you unable to confirm whether you were naive or not they'd have had 6r confirmed as town and almost certainly looked to get me lynched and it would have been game over.

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Also Themer has apparently checked this thread multiple times in the last few hours without so much as a post.

Enough reason to lynch him anway :p

Unless he's the lyncher or something dastardly :rolleyes Anyway, was trying to get this game over and done with so I could load up Mount and Blade and go kill some people on a horse for a bit, but as you've developed a vagina and neither BKB or Themer have been back I'm off now anyway for a bit :p
 

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