Sedition
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Yeah, I got it when you screwed me last game 
"See how many we get" mafia - Endgame. BKB1991, mafia, wins
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puddleduck
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Fair point 
BKB1991
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Nice to see you guys going on from where I left but quick question, what do you mean by mafia implicating Sim?
Furthermore, I dont know how I am still viewed as a suspect? I had a not so common claim, which I provided results for, is checked out by at night, makes up for the lack of cop in the game.
And from what I understood the PMs Colin and I exchanged, the list of names gave me does include both the people who Varun watched and the ones that hit Varun with a night action.
Furthermore, I dont know how I am still viewed as a suspect? I had a not so common claim, which I provided results for, is checked out by at night, makes up for the lack of cop in the game.
And from what I understood the PMs Colin and I exchanged, the list of names gave me does include both the people who Varun watched and the ones that hit Varun with a night action.
Sedition
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If you're mafia, you could have faked those results attempting to frame Themer since he shouldn't have left any trace on Varun with his claimed role. So if Themer somehow turned up town, it seems likely you fixed the results. It was almost a day before you posted them, so it was easily enough time to check the thread and put those who should be there on it, and add Themer in.
I agree that your role makes sense given that I'm more than likely naive though.
With the mafia implicating Sim, and one of the reasons I'm not really trusting the write-ups now, I'm referring to this:
So that was the 3rd attempt at killing Varun apparently.
Night 0 - Non lethal
Night 1 - Zhuorb protects Varun from first attempt
Night 2 - Zhuorb blocks Sim and no kill goes through
Night 3 - Varun finally killed on the 3rd? attempt
If that was the 3rd night attempt, then it seems either Zhuorb was lying about who he actually blocked, or maybe PD was lying about who he switched and actually redirected the block from Sim onto mafia or the protection onto Varun again. or.. when he switched Varun and I, that was also an attempt to get him killed
Maybe the 3rd attempt was a day lynch? Need to look back, sure there was someone who put a lynch on Varun even after he claimed.
I agree that your role makes sense given that I'm more than likely naive though.
With the mafia implicating Sim, and one of the reasons I'm not really trusting the write-ups now, I'm referring to this:
So that was the 3rd attempt at killing Varun apparently.
Night 0 - Non lethal
Night 1 - Zhuorb protects Varun from first attempt
Night 2 - Zhuorb blocks Sim and no kill goes through
Night 3 - Varun finally killed on the 3rd? attempt
If that was the 3rd night attempt, then it seems either Zhuorb was lying about who he actually blocked, or maybe PD was lying about who he switched and actually redirected the block from Sim onto mafia or the protection onto Varun again. or.. when he switched Varun and I, that was also an attempt to get him killed
Maybe the 3rd attempt was a day lynch? Need to look back, sure there was someone who put a lynch on Varun even after he claimed.
Sedition
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Checked through and not one person tried lynching Varun. So if it was the 3rd attempt, something dodgy happened the night that Sim was jailkept and no kill went through.. our results implied that Sim had been blocked on the 2nd attempt, but since he was town, I'm missing something.
puddleduck
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In reading back through the thread I noticed Themer/User/Manly all had a habit of backing each other in groups of twos at various points. Far too suspicious, and the fact Themer has checked this thead without even posting is the nail for me.
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The twice before thing is a bit confusing though, but with the roles people have claimed and the actions they say they've taken, I just don't see how Varun has been targetted twice before?
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Oh BKB is here... Interesting that he wasn't keen to put the lynch down with the possibility that Themer does actually take vengeance on him
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... despite the fact that his own results say Themer must be mafia
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The twice before thing is a bit confusing though, but with the roles people have claimed and the actions they say they've taken, I just don't see how Varun has been targetted twice before?
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Oh BKB is here... Interesting that he wasn't keen to put the lynch down with the possibility that Themer does actually take vengeance on him
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... despite the fact that his own results say Themer must be mafia
Sedition
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Haha yeah it was funny reading back and looking at User's posts. I found it strange at the time when he put a lynch on Yudi at the beginning of the day, before the PRs even revealed their results
Also true about Manly and Themer. If Themer's town, then this must be his first game, as his whole play has just looked completely confused and scummy as hell. There was a million reasons to lynch him two days ago, and now the investigation result, plus the fact he hasn't bothered posting at all should be enough really.
In the interests of not completely cocking up, I'd still prefer BKB as one of the lynchers.
Also true about Manly and Themer. If Themer's town, then this must be his first game, as his whole play has just looked completely confused and scummy as hell. There was a million reasons to lynch him two days ago, and now the investigation result, plus the fact he hasn't bothered posting at all should be enough really.
In the interests of not completely cocking up, I'd still prefer BKB as one of the lynchers.
Themer
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I think it's Zhuorb. I really don't have time for the game now which I apologise for so I'm not going back reading everything.
Sim was framed. The only person who could percievably frame him was Zhuorb as a mafia JK.
Lynch: Zhuorb
Sim was framed. The only person who could percievably frame him was Zhuorb as a mafia JK.
Lynch: Zhuorb
BKB1991
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I simply pointed out my results. Eveything is looked into the most suspicious way possible. You want me to lynch, I don't mind but the days over no more discussion. Get it? If that's what everyone wants that's cool, but I didn't want to end the day prematurely
I was also thinking about out of all the posibilites and there is a possibility Themer is town considering he may be town considering he might have been targetted by Varun at some point. But obviously that will also be looked as if trying to save my ass if he turns out town.
I was also thinking about out of all the posibilites and there is a possibility Themer is town considering he may be town considering he might have been targetted by Varun at some point. But obviously that will also be looked as if trying to save my ass if he turns out town.
puddleduck
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Anyone could perceivably have framed Sim though. Just by trying to kill him on the night he was most scummy and an almost certain target for Zhuorb to JK.
We know Varun's results because he told us them. There is no way Themer should be on there (mafia kill takes precedent over watcher visiting them) so either BKB is lying, or Themer is lying. Zhuorb must be innocent (or Barmy has actually made an error and included Themer in the results when he shouldn't have done).
Since I'm inclined to believe Colin doesn't make too many errors (the deliberate spelling mistakes to cover his initial spelling mistakes aside ). Zhuorb must be innocent. Although the writeup is confusing, as earlier Zhuorb was all but confirmed as town throught it, yet later on with the addition of "don't take kindly to your folk" and "you're dead" both lending some weight to the possibilities that he is in fact mafia.
He has also spent a lot of the game contributing just enough to lead the town towards lynches, specifically Sim. Although at that point, it wouldn't have taken a genius to try and frame Sim by targetting him.
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If Themer is genuinely town he could have either offered an analysis or to lynch one of the two scummy remaining players (BKB or Zhuorb) and allow me and Sedition at least a 50-50 chance of blocking the night kill back onto the mafia member.
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Just do it BKB, if you haven't made your results up then we win. If you have, then hopefully Themer does the right thing and kills you.
In fact, because he hasn't attempted to put the blame on you, I don't really see how he is anything but mafia or completely confused town
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One thought... Varun did try and watch me when I swapped me and Mark (Themer) but was Jk'ed so again there is a possibility of that putting Themer there, but really it would be Colin's mistake as mod than actual reliable evidence. Logic people.... use it
We know Varun's results because he told us them. There is no way Themer should be on there (mafia kill takes precedent over watcher visiting them) so either BKB is lying, or Themer is lying. Zhuorb must be innocent (or Barmy has actually made an error and included Themer in the results when he shouldn't have done).
Since I'm inclined to believe Colin doesn't make too many errors (the deliberate spelling mistakes to cover his initial spelling mistakes aside
). Zhuorb must be innocent. Although the writeup is confusing, as earlier Zhuorb was all but confirmed as town throught it, yet later on with the addition of "don't take kindly to your folk" and "you're dead" both lending some weight to the possibilities that he is in fact mafia. He has also spent a lot of the game contributing just enough to lead the town towards lynches, specifically Sim. Although at that point, it wouldn't have taken a genius to try and frame Sim by targetting him.
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If Themer is genuinely town he could have either offered an analysis or to lynch one of the two scummy remaining players (BKB or Zhuorb) and allow me and Sedition at least a 50-50 chance of blocking the night kill back onto the mafia member.
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Just do it BKB, if you haven't made your results up then we win. If you have, then hopefully Themer does the right thing and kills you.
In fact, because he hasn't attempted to put the blame on you, I don't really see how he is anything but mafia or completely confused town
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One thought... Varun did try and watch me when I swapped me and Mark (Themer) but was Jk'ed so again there is a possibility of that putting Themer there, but really it would be Colin's mistake as mod than actual reliable evidence. Logic people.... use it
BKB1991
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What about watching another player? Personally, Varun might have watched Themer that night and got killed afterwards. I dont know the logistics involved but it certainly is a possibility. But this happening itself is a chance.
Thing is I am not completely sold on the idea of the Themer as a mafia. We know that probably none of us are lying about our role claims, but someone is a mafia among us(barring Themer) nonetheless. We also know theres a possibility of a mafia cop, a mafia bus driver and a jailkeeper who is a mafia.
So yea my basis not lynching Themer isnt because I am afraid he will kill me, but the fact that I am still on completely sold on him being the last mafia
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barring Themer - his roleclaim isnt the only one that checks out yet.
Sedition
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I agree with Themer. Zhuorb has zero credibility and should be vengeance killed if Themer turns up town.
Lol doesn't even make sense, Night 0 was non-lethal. I already made a case against Manly at this point, and continued on with it, so Zhuorb gets zero credit, as much as he wishes he had anything to do with the successful lynch.
By the way, I'm playing different to how I usually play town.
Awesome!
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Still no idea what's going on.
Since Themer has a lynch on Zhuorb and thinks he's mafia, that's where the vengeance kill should go. I'm sick of waiting any longer for people who make 1 post per game day.
Lynch: Themer
Lol doesn't even make sense, Night 0 was non-lethal. I already made a case against Manly at this point, and continued on with it, so Zhuorb gets zero credit, as much as he wishes he had anything to do with the successful lynch.
By the way, I'm playing different to how I usually play town.
Awesome!
Strike 2
Still no idea what's going on.
Since Themer has a lynch on Zhuorb and thinks he's mafia, that's where the vengeance kill should go. I'm sick of waiting any longer for people who make 1 post per game day.
Lynch: Themer
BKB1991
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Yea I agree with you, the game is becoming a drag now. But do you want me to lynch him or you want to wait for Zhuorb to do so?
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oh just checked that Zhuorb has already done it
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oh just checked that Zhuorb has already done it
puddleduck
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Think that's the three anyway. If Themer is town he needs to target Zhuorb with his vengeance kill now. If that is not game over, then BKB, you are lying and you better hope you pick the right one out of me and Sedition to try and night kill if you want to be able to win
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