Your Cricket Spin Bowling thread

[langerrox]

yeh i use my ring finger to spin it, u get nice flight and good spin that way, i think your way is perfectly fine tho!

 

[kodos]

I'm a leg spin bowler myself and Drewska you're grip is pretty much an exact replica of mine. Some say my grip is slightly unorthodox but I can still generate substantial amount of spin.

It was a leggie. Though it was one of the thin artificial pitches which was so inconsistant that it was like playing on turf! Anyway, my partner faced a ball off that same bowler which pitched on the grass outside of the pitch and it deviated back in like an offspinner which he left and knocked his middle stump out of the ground. It was kinda funny because he wasn't sure if it would be called out or not and as soon as it knocked the stump out of the ground he quickly spun his head around anxiously at the umpire.

I tend to like facing offies more aswell as it sorta takes a stumping out of the equation if you keep you're pads near you're bat.

Ugh!! I hate the artificial pitches. Especially the ones with long tall grass around the perimeter and when some of the carpet has been slightly torn apart. Also the fact that some seem terribly thin is also a nuisance.

 

[Sureshot]

Artificial pitches rock when practicing to a decent batsman.

It spins so much they miss it, then I bowl the googly, they miss it and voila. It's fun when they get very angry.

Like someone said earlier don't be afraid to invent new deliveries. I've got a slider, where when I come to bowl the ball I don't bother gripping. So it comes out at the same speed, but skids on a bit more. Good if they try to cut you.

 

[Simbazz]

Bahh now this is my kinda thread, luckily i havnt played on too many artificial pitches, but when i have, i dont use myself much, as im useless on them as they dont do nothing for a spinner.

Like someone said earlier don't be afraid to invent new deliveries

My coach loves to see new deliveries being developed although im not much good as it took me years to prefect the Doosra but now i have i love it.

Im quite lucky, as i love practising and i can choose on the morning weather id be more benificial to bowl as a Slow Left Armer or a Chinaman, but as a captain i hate the fact that on some pitches i cant be much use and im only in the team to field and bat, i love being part of it all. very hyperactive.

One piece of advice as far as artificial pitches go for spinners, find your spot and keep with it, dont dot the ball all over the place, just choose one area, and experiment with speeds and try to get more rotations out of the ball, artificials are so incosistant that your hard to pushed to bowl a ball and repeat it exactly the same, but like i said, i havnt played on too many, ive played on shoddy, sticky wickets which are perfect for tall fast bowler, the ball just sticks in the ground and doesnt come out, so the batsmen plays his shot and gets his stumps knocked out after hes played a spin on a soggy sticky wicket is like using a old mop, very crap and not up to much.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

I used to bowl high, flighty googlies, but gave it up after I tried to follow my sir's suggestions and change my runup and screwed up my whole bowling. I bowl pace now, but dabble in offbreaks, with the odd legbreak thrown in (It is suprising how I couldn't bowl legbreaks when bowling legspin, but can do it now with ease...must be the action) It is pretty simple to be honest, just pitch it right, it'll turn, that is it. I bowl a back of the hand offbreak. Try thi - grip a ball as an offbreak (Index and middle finger on a slanted seam, thumb unerneath the ball in line with the Index finger) and flip it over (So the thumb is on top...) Bowl with the ball with that grip. Now, depending on how much spin you put, the ball will come off:
A) A high, loopy trajectory, will spin less and keep very low.
B) A high but darting trajectory, will bounce and spin more than expected.
Atleast that is what happens with the tape ball, but insanely hard to control. My only variation - along with the legbreak and a similar quicker ball as Sureshot which is as fast as possible without turn.

 

[Left_Hander]

A lot of spinners in my grade loop the ball so it comes in at head height an then they stick there bat underneath and it becomes and easy wicket. Can any one give some advice to these unskillful deliveries?

Me being a part-time spinner, bowl a few overs each game. Accuaracy is a big problem for me. Like yesterday I was at the nets, and I bowled a few really good overs harldy any straying on leg-stump or two wide. Then my friend I was bowling good and from there on in my bowling was all over the shop. Hardly any good bowls, except the last few.

 

[Simbazz]

Spin bowling sometimes is a great difficulty to even Shane Warne, i dont know why but sometimes spinners just have a day where they are all over the place, Even me!

It doesnt help your a part timer, i concentrate more on bowling, mainly because i like it better, and i back my batting abilities. For a part timer you have to concentrate on your main ball, or stock ball, which is either a ball which spins towards leg or off, which in my case i can change depending on pitch, weather and so on, although im a better leg spinner.

To keep it accurate my coach always tells our part timers to put down some ladder rungs, take them off the ladders and put them in a square, start big, work smaller, ok some ladders have huge wooden rungs, but ours are crappy plastic. The more you concentrate on landing the ball in the square the more you will get used to landing the ball in the right spot, and then its only a case of speed and spin, which is easily sorted with a bit of work on grip, and skill of releasing, 4 sessions top to sort these out.

Im not a coach, far from it, but if im trying to practise i usually chose a spot and bowl to it. On a match day, imagine the box, and if your lucky the pitch will have some recognisable scuff or mark which you know to bowl round.

I know this is alot to read and may put you off but i understand how difficult part timers find it as they are batters and spin bowling is seriously a hard form of bowling, especially when you guys have been doing the hard work presumably in the top order Stick at it, enjoy it, and most of all strive to get it right, you have the will power itll work out for you.

 

[wolf]

Bahh now this is my kinda thread, luckily i havnt played on too many artificial pitches, but when i have, i dont use myself much, as im useless on them as they dont do nothing for a spinner.

Try and rip the ball through on a atificial pitch, it spins then.

 

[Simbazz]

Try and rip the ball through on a atificial pitch, it spins then.

ripping the ball hurts after a while, fingers get all red id much rather not bowl lol

 

[wolf]

Well if you worry about your fingers get red you should not be playing cricket.

 

[JamesyJames3]

I bowl Off-breaks for my club after a transitionn from medium pace when I was 13/14 (read Changing Action thread for details).

All be it I haven't had the most succesful season picking up only 22 wickets at about 23. However, I will offer whatever advice I can on off-break bowling.

I bowl with a pretty standard grip, with my index finger doing 90% of the work when spinning the ball.

Variation is the key to off-spin as it senior level it can become pretty repetitive and easy to play. The fingers aren't as strong as the wrist and therefore doesn't impact as much spin on the ball as leg-spin (wrist-spin). My stock delivary is the off-break obviously. I then bowl a traditional arm ball (pretty much an away swinger), A much quicker ball which is darted in (Be wary of dragging this down as it then becomes meat and drink). Those are my main variations at the moment. However a good way to add more variation to your stock delivary is to mix up your flight. Flight isn't valued high enough in cricket. If you can get good flight at a decent pace, you will get natural dip on the ball causing problems for the best batsmen around. This is what I tend to use, especially when I have one of two around the bat. Bat-pads are a common dismissal for me.

Anyway, this is all for now, if anyone has any questions on off-break bowling, don't hesitate to ask. I play at a decent senior level and am going to take my coaching badges in February.

 

[Simbazz]

Well if you worry about your fingers get red you should not be playing cricket.

nah i dont worry, i jus tape em up lol, ok im a big girl, is that wat you wanted me to say !!! and i wish LH would give feedback to my help, it took me a while for that!

I bowl Off-breaks for my club after a transitionn from medium pace when I was 13/14 (read Changing Action thread for details).

All be it I haven't had the most succesful season picking up only 22 wickets at about 23. However, I will offer whatever advice I can on off-break bowling.

I bowl with a pretty standard grip, with my index finger doing 90% of the work when spinning the ball.

Variation is the key to off-spin as it senior level it can become pretty repetitive and easy to play. The fingers aren't as strong as the wrist and therefore doesn't impact as much spin on the ball as leg-spin (wrist-spin). My stock delivary is the off-break obviously. I then bowl a traditional arm ball (pretty much an away swinger), A much quicker ball which is darted in (Be wary of dragging this down as it then becomes meat and drink). Those are my main variations at the moment. However a good way to add more variation to your stock delivary is to mix up your flight. Flight isn't valued high enough in cricket. If you can get good flight at a decent pace, you will get natural dip on the ball causing problems for the best batsmen around. This is what I tend to use, especially when I have one of two around the bat. Bat-pads are a common dismissal for me.

Anyway, this is all for now, if anyone has any questions on off-break bowling, don't hesitate to ask. I play at a decent senior level and am going to take my coaching badges in February.

this is great, Reps heading your way!

Yeah, James everything here sounds like your a pretty good offie

Yeah i agree flight is an amazing weapon, and isnt hard to learn, just watch Vettori or even Panesar, they are SLA and they do it wonderfully well, Panesar more.

When i bowl my SLA i find that one certain pitches the sharper the drop the more the ball tends to quicken and either spin or stay straight, but yeah Flight is almost as important as spin!

And Off spinning is a very prescious art due to the ease of batsmen being able to work it out, but if you do bowl it, remember to make sure that you;

• Change Speed
• Change rotations on ball
• change flight
• and most of all, change the positioning of the ball, if you hit it 6 times in the same place its almost like saying, here ya go, take me for four and six

Basically, you have to have Variation as an offspinner and spin isnt as great as wrist spinning as James said!

 

[Left_Hander]

That was good advice Simbo.

When I bowl I usually look at where I want to pitch it.

It was wierd because I have played 3 cricket seasons, this being my third. The first season I was a bowler last season I was a batter, this season I think it will be the same.

 

[Simbazz]

That was good advice Simbo.

When I bowl I usually look at where I want to pitch it.

It was wierd because I have played 3 cricket seasons, this being my third. The first season I was a bowler last season I was a batter, this season I think it will be the same.

Basic information i can give you is find a place and pitch it there, its the easiest way to do things as a part timer, doing anything else will just confuse your line and length and overall your rythem, get a spot, stick to it, and have variation in speed and spin, also try to flight one or two, just get the batsmen going a bit, when he see's one arial, he'll go for it, you probably know from experience when you see a ball up in the air going at a slow pace, its there for the hitting, and when you see it dip quick, you soil yourself :P

 

[Mierosoft]

I bowl offies with my fingers or alternatively i can bowl a google, can't bowl a leg break to save my life though, before today ive only ever played in nets, i broke a club record today when i became the first player to get a wicket with their first ball of their career/spell with the club, and it was one of the most average arm balls you can imagine, good old off spin