Team Career Mode

[Alberts]

Genuinely not sure what you're going on about. If you want to play as a team, you play a casual, tour or competition game. You can create your own tours or competitions and play as a team in the academy/arcade modes. If you want a team simulator and do signings and "Manage" a team, you turn on your PC and buy Cricket Coach. They're two completely different styles of game.

It's like requesting a first person shooter mode be included in a role playing game.

That's really unfair to say actually. A career mode using a whole team is pretty stock standard for every sport game. Requesting to not have a full career mode would be like asking for an FPS mode, not the other way around. It really is quite a large missing feature, but something I'd assume they'd be working on for future versions, as it would go hand in hand in developing the career mode experience with players growing, ageing and retiring, only to be replaced.

 

[Markkkkk]

I still maintain it to be a much needed feature. I agree that domestic managing is a complete waste as nothing happens but international would be fun. The greatest thing about this would be that because we have a player career mode and a national team career mode people like me can play team career and people like Dave and Biggs can play player career mode, its the best of both worlds really...

 

[Markkkkk]

How do you ask your middle order to play out the draw if it's you playing? You find a brilliant conservative opener, but you play a shot a ball? It doesn't work.

To be fair the AI doesnt do this either!


Also I think your focusing too much on the managment side. All I (and others) want is to have a continuous mode where I can either treat it very seriously or just for fun. My best example would be Fifas international career mode option thing where all you do is select a squad and play, with regens and retirement and lots of stats...

 

[blockerdave]

Still sounds gash

 

[salter]

Why wouldn't we want further additions?! The bare bones are there, keep them, add more, refine certain things(ai mostly), this is a cricket SIM after all is it not? Good suggestion mate! It would definitely add a lot more replayability!

 

[salter]

The Career mode is there for us and for longevity, it's not ever going to be rejigged to be a team management simulator because the amount of casual fans who would enjoy that part of cricket would be a tiny fraction of the purchasing market.
A) how would you know actually know that it's "not ever" going to be an added features?.... and B) how do you know what fraction of the market enjoys what?.... I just hope people don't actually take what you say seriously BIGGS! Because you my friend are a JOKE!!!

 

[Jay OTT]

I can't understand blockerdave's logic. I for one would be fully supportive of any new game mode added to the next edition of this game franchise, just as long as it doesn't take up so much of the developer's resources and man hours that it results in the game itself being ****. In fact, adding a team-based career mode to the game just gives Big Ant all the more incentive to make both the Player Career and the Team Career have a 'dynamic' game world...

 

[salter]

Yeah for sure! regens and retirements, players skill sets that deteriorate with age and form, etc. I always thought if you could actually physically control international cricket captain then I'd be pretty happy with that lol but now dbc caught my imagination with cricket games I'm hopeful we'll eventually get there

 

[blockerdave]

I can't understand blockerdave's logic. I for one would be fully supportive of any new game mode added to the next edition of this game franchise, just as long as it doesn't take up so much of the developer's resources and man hours that it results in the game itself being ****. In fact, adding a team-based career mode to the game just gives Big Ant all the more incentive to make both the Player Career and the Team Career have a 'dynamic' game world...

here's the biggest part of the logic in bold, you've answered it yourself. A management career mode - as Cricket Coach / Captain show - is a game in itself. Asking for that to be a "mode" and not expecting that to have an impact is a nonsense.

And controlling the whole XI isn't a career, and has no internal logic as a mode.

 

[Biggs]

And controlling the whole XI isn't a career, and has no internal logic as a mode.

^All of this.

What you're talking about is a team management simulator, for which I've already linked you all to one you can buy right now. Onwards! You've got it already, you're one of the hundreds that pour hours into it? Awesome, why would you want a team management simulator built into what is essentially an arcade cricket game. Now; I get wanting to manage your squad selection and replacing players throughout a solo-career mode, that makes sense. But managing, quote, "Trades", "Retirements" and "Stats" means nothing ...all of which are built into the single-player, tour and match-creator campaigns anyway. The only thing you can't do in the current career mode is replace squad members throughout a career, I imagine that'll be a thing you can do in round two.

It doesn't make sense to me to include something more complex like a "management" feature literally very few people would actually make use of when it's things like Weather, Pitches, Fielding, Bowling and Online Gameplay which they should be pouring their time and energy into improving in a robust way for the sequel, not to mention any of the hundreds-of-page-long requested visual upgrades and single-player-creator options.

A career mode using a whole team is pretty stock standard for every sport game

There is already a career mode using a whole team in this game. What is being requested is a team management mode, they're entirely different games, one of which already exists. Also, team management in FIFA, League or a Baseball Game is a fundamental part of the sport, with trades and player caps and building franchises from disparate pieces. There's literally nothing like it in cricket with the exception being the IPL and I couldn't think of anything more tedious or irrelevant for @fiction to have sit there and playtest an IPL player auction...

Just get the cricket bits right.

I just hope people don't actually take what you say seriously BIGGS! Because you my friend are a JOKE!!!

I'm unsure what that has to do with anything being discussed here whatsoever, but I guess thanks for your input guy I've never heard of who likes Caps Lock? I'll call you Cappy.

 

[Markkkkk]

I think people are misreading what we (or I am atleast) are saying. I dont want IPL, I dont want to sign, trade,hire, offer contracts, manage budgets, assign training courses, fire staff, scout Jeehan Masing from Kazhakastan to sign for my U19 provincial side. All we (or I atleast) want is basically play a season like in FIFA but duplicated with the fixes of the single career mode added (stats, dynamic line ups, retirement etc.) Cricket Coach is a good game (I have it myself) but there are a lot of bugs and the sim itself doesnt work very well. Im not asking for cricket coach, im asking to play as a team and not the player in career mode...[DOUBLEPOST=1440364243][/DOUBLEPOST]Also I agree I'd rather have AI improvements and such but if the back of DBC 1x says "Now with good AI, cloudy day and the Online mode actually works" I wont fork out another R800+ for that...

 

[Biggs]

I dont want to sign, trade,hire, offer contracts, manage budgets, assign training courses, fire staff, scout Jeehan Masing from Kazhakastan to sign for my U19 provincial side.

Cool. The OP said:

You could also make signings and pick your team. Start as a county manager and work your way up to international or IPL. Another thing is that you could train your players to make them better.

I said:

You can already do that, it's called Cricket Coach 2014

That guy also said...

What is being requested is a team management mode, they're entirely different games

That guy gets it...

Im not asking for cricket coach, im asking to play as a team and not the player in career mode...

Which is fine and I already said:

I get wanting to manage your squad selection and replacing players throughout a solo-career mode, that makes sense

It's like people don't even read words in extensive paragraphs anymore. Do I need to hashtag 'Sorta Agree' after things I type?

 

[Snowy]

Let's keep it civil or we can just close the thread. That goes for everybody.

 

[grkrama]

I would believe most have disagreed on management sim stuff like contracts, money player transfer etc etc.

and have evolved the feature request to something like a season mode which at the core is basically wanting a continuum with the team for more than a tour, i dont think it is bad at all, if i can get a fleshed out career with a barebones seasons mode i wouldnt mind it at all (if resource and time permits for BA which they would alone know but its certainly a feature that will get some time sinked in by players).

consider it as something like this being able to re-live\ do- it-different the Aussie golden era under taylor and waugh or the invincible's of 1948, the WI era on the whole.

Now i could play that by using tours in a part by part manner etc but if i can get that continuity with stats and player form it will be gold.

hmmmm...On second thought @Markkkkk 's idea does have potential

Rather than calling it management in the category of cricket coach or captain etc. i wouldnt want all that contract signing up stuff.

This would be like more like BCC mode [stick to Intl teams only]

It starts with all teams with their base rankings , let the mode have 20 odd seasons mirroring career, [hope this time a proper FTA with both away and home type matches are scheduled]


Based on the team performance team rankings change[obviously in a biased way to promote bcc 3]

Other than that may be throw in a Player of the year award, so when someone from zim or ban gets one it will be extraordinary.

Throw in the WC, Test championship, Ashes for eng& Aus if you can get license it will create a drama &story on its own.[this is a must for career as well]

I would say that's about it as long as improved stats and ability to change squads are included in the next iteration, this should be gold.

Most of the kicks out of this mode other than gameplay would be got through, squad management[just selecting players from the team pools on our choice] , stats and rankings.

 

[Alberts]

^All of this.

What you're talking about is a team management simulator, for which I've already linked you all to one you can buy right now. Onwards! You've got it already, you're one of the hundreds that pour hours into it? Awesome, why would you want a team management simulator built into what is essentially an arcade cricket game. Now; I get wanting to manage your squad selection and replacing players throughout a solo-career mode, that makes sense. But managing, quote, "Trades", "Retirements" and "Stats" means nothing ...all of which are built into the single-player, tour and match-creator campaigns anyway. The only thing you can't do in the current career mode is replace squad members throughout a career, I imagine that'll be a thing you can do in round two.

It doesn't make sense to me to include something more complex like a "management" feature literally very few people would actually make use of when it's things like Weather, Pitches, Fielding, Bowling and Online Gameplay which they should be pouring their time and energy into improving in a robust way for the sequel, not to mention any of the hundreds-of-page-long requested visual upgrades and single-player-creator options.



There is already a career mode using a whole team in this game. What is being requested is a team management mode, they're entirely different games, one of which already exists. Also, team management in FIFA, League or a Baseball Game is a fundamental part of the sport, with trades and player caps and building franchises from disparate pieces. There's literally nothing like it in cricket with the exception being the IPL and I couldn't think of anything more tedious or irrelevant for @fiction to have sit there and playtest an IPL player auction...

Just get the cricket bits right.



I'm unsure what that has to do with anything being discussed here whatsoever, but I guess thanks for your input guy I've never heard of who likes Caps Lock? I'll call you Cappy.

Can you actually think of a successful sports game that doesn't have a proper career/management mode?

FIFA - You bet it does
PES - Definitely
Madden - Yep
EA's NHL - Oh yep
2K's NBA - Yep
MLB: the Show -Yes
Rugby Challenge - Yep, though the last one I played had a rubbish and buggy career mode

It's basically an expected feature of any sports game, and I have heard people talk about how the game is good "but is missing half of it" before in reference to it. To dismiss what is considered a central features of pretty much every other sports game on the market is counter productive, particularly as the improvements to the system required to make one work in future Don Bradman Cricket titles are the exact improves that the player career mode currently needs anyhow.

People like being able to manage and play as a team, even if you don't. Games like Football Manager and Cricket Coach have their place, but equally so do the career modes from games like FIFA, PES and so forth. Being able to manage even just an international side, pick up players performing well in a simulated domestic scene and take on the World would be fun, and whilst I get it's not something that is likely to be on the radar right now, it would be interesting to see such things in future versions.