Time Travel

By life and death I mean the cycles in life - youth, middle age, old age, death. The seasons - spring (life) which gradually changes into summer, fall, and then winter (when everything dies lol)

I don't know. I guess time does exist in nature. But I don't think we can 'harness' it to manipulate it and actually travel between different eras.

This is way too much thinking for a friday night.
 
Which goes back to my original point. Time (at least in one galaxy) is linear.
 
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Indeed, but how else would you move an object without copying it and projecting it in another location?
I used to think storage of data, anhiliation of every atom in the body into energy, then somehow transporting that energy with the speed of light, then re forming the body from that very energy. :pI haven't done much of advanced physics, only very basic modern physics so my ideas are sometimes kinda non-reasonable. :p
 
Ok, As we near the future we foresee, I've been fascinated by the Time Travel, Time Machine and past and future.

I am more than extremely sceptical about time travel and the possibility of it ever being possible :

1) because time is a human concept, while it might seem like time exists it is merely intervals relating to the position of the sun/moon in relation to the earth as it travels around the sun. The earth is covering the same ground, yet we think of time as linear, so while things may have happened in the past who is to say there is a way of distinguishing past events to travel to them? ie the same point in our orbit round the sun has been reached X times, how can you possibly convert a point in time.

2) as per the end of point 1, how could you define a point in time.

3) wormhole theory is just that, besides anything else lots of people in the past are dead unless you believe there exists infinite points in time that you could travel back to.

4) there are three physical dimensions, we know we can travel in directions but how do you propose that would work in time?!?!

5) the structure of the concept of time is CONTINUOUS, we talk about the "present" but in fact there is no "present", only the past and future. By the time you've typed "present" it is the "future" and then that becomes the "past" and so on. Since time as a concept doesn't stop, unless you believe that old trick with the atomic clock which has time travel as the explanation when in fact it could be any number of things including a distortion effect caused by the speed travelled at, unless you believe the clock was in the past and we were just seeing it's physical shape later than it actually was - if there is an easy way to put that please do! Do I know if the house I am in now exists in the now, the past or the future as it is the same house. But unless we start tying ourselves up in knots about what objects are in the here and now then we have to assume everything occupying the universe at this moment in "time" is in the same time.

I do love the atomic clock argument, as if there is a cause and effect relationship ie that it proves in some way time travel is possible.

6) and the macdaddy of the arguments against time travel. If it were ever possible, and people believe that there is a future to go to as well as a past, then why have we not been inundated with time travellers in their police boxes, phone booths, USS Enterprises etc?!?!? If it is possible then are we to assume noone has yet worked it out!?!?!?

7) to me, unless there is physical evidence something can be done or has happened or does exist, we have to assume it doesn't. There is no evidence god exists so we have to assume he/it doesn't. We've not been visited from people in the future, or the past since if there is a past to travel back to then there is every chance they might discover it. But then the world seems pretty consistent to me, if you've ever seen that series about the Bermuda Triangle where reality changes, or indeed Butterfly Effect (excellent film), then why does the world seem to be as it has been, slowly progressing or not as seems to be the case, or perhaps it keeps changing and there's no way of knowing as our memories etc seem the same but could well change and if we wrote down reality and it changed then so would our written account of it.


Time travel is the realms of fantasy until proven otherwise, just like god and heaven, immortality and other things people wish were possible/exist. It is one of those things people will talk up as possible since there is no way of disproving it. Timeline yesterday was quite a good watch, comparing human teleportation with a fax even though the sending fax tells the recieving fax what order to put dots on a page, not what order to put bits of a human back together in and so it is completely different. I've typed into a keyboard, people can see what I can see so it is merely a case of what I am typing being stored in a data format that other PCs can share and display, or I can transmit the orders via text, fax etc. It's not quite the same with living organisms, if at all. Save time travel for fantasy novels and films, space travel is possible but time travel is based on a great number of never gonna happens
 
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No offense, Just asking, You Atheist? ^

Really just asking.
 
Who knows. Playing the safer side. :p!
 
Hindering scientific and social progress in the name of 2000 year old goat herders is offensive to me.
 
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Time travel is the realms of fantasy until proven otherwise, just like god and heaven, immortality and other things people wish were possible/exist. It is one of those things people will talk up as possible since there is no way of disproving it. Timeline yesterday was quite a good watch, comparing human teleportation with a fax even though the sending fax tells the recieving fax what order to put dots on a page, not what order to put bits of a human back together in and so it is completely different. I've typed into a keyboard, people can see what I can see so it is merely a case of what I am typing being stored in a data format that other PCs can share and display, or I can transmit the orders via text, fax etc. It's not quite the same with living organisms, if at all. Save time travel for fantasy novels and films, space travel is possible but time travel is based on a great number of never gonna happens

Why is this stuff always spoken about in one breath with god and immortality etcetera? Why is all belief the same kind of fantasy as fantasizing about time travel? There are many people who have had real experiences of meeting the divine. Should they be put into the same bowl as time travel fantasies?

Time travel is possible in my opinion: only not physically, but spiritualy and in soul life. Our memories are a certain outing of this. Once memories can be concentrated to a high degree they become actual experiences of past events and lead us to have a real knowledeg of our previous life experiences.
 
There are many people who have had real experiences of meeting the divine. Should they be put into the same bowl as time travel fantasies?
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No, they should be put in mental asylums. :p

On a more serious note, could you please name 1 person who has had "real experiences of meeting the divine" and has some actual proof?
 
No, they should be put in mental asylums. :p

On a more serious note, could you please name 1 person who has had "real experiences of meeting the divine" and has some actual proof?

Lol! I knew you would react to this one! Well history is peppered with stories of people saying they have had meetings and experience s of meeting divine beings or God Himself. We either choose to label those experiences as fantasies or hallucinations or we decide to take those peoples experience as true accounts of what they experienced.

I recently read a book about soldiers in the second world war who had meetings with Christ. Only yesterday i saw an article about a girl of six who rescued her baby brother from a burning shack because an "a Christ-like figure" told her to wake up.

Could be BS......I choose to believe it.
 

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