Dare
Chairman of Selectors
Sarwan has been a underachiever, the talent that he has and the way he started of his career he could have been one of the best this decade.
Sarwan has been a underachiever, the talent that he has and the way he started of his career he could have been one of the best this decade.
Glad to see that you agreed with me.Rahul Dravid- A very talented batsman yes, but not as naturally gifted as his average would suggest. He's lucky he's been blessed with such patience and detirmination, as without that he'd have most probably failed at Test level.
Check my Underachiever XI, hes in there. Not because of his ego though, the egos not the problem!
Saurav Ganguly Over achiever! Seriously Dada (Ganguly) had limited talent. He wasnt technically gifted nor is he patient like Dravid. What he had was loads of determination and the "in your face" attitude. This attitude took him too far. Its funny that with the kind of statistics Ganguly has, he is not called a legend.
His 10,000 ODI runs were gifted by the ICC, were'nt they?My Over-Achievers XI:
Virender Sehwag- No foot movement whatsoever, but blessed with superb hand-eye co-ordination, and the mental strength to make massive innings' on flat decks. Given his technique alone, he has over-achieved.
Marcus Trescothick- Same as Sehwag. Little footmovement, but his superb hand-eye co-ordination, power and ability to hit over the top allowed him to develop into a successful batsman.
Rahul Dravid- A very talented batsman yes, but not as naturally gifted as his average would suggest. He's lucky he's been blessed with such patience and detirmination, as without that he'd have most probably failed at Test level.
Steve Waugh- No hook shot, no pull shot, but the concentration to outlast any bowling attack. Waugh was another that grafted his way to Test runs, and was incredibly successful at doing so.
Paul Collingwood- Another in the same mould as Dravid. Not particularly naturally gifted, but has worked immensely hard on his game, and managed to develop a techinque that works for him and allows him to graft his way to Test and ODi runs. He's definitely over-achieved.
Nasser Hussain- Grafted to make as many runs as he did, again with not a huge amount of natural talent.
Andy Flower- Flower was a gifted batsman, not a great keeper, but a gifted batsman, but his overachieving comes from the fact he played for a woeful Zimbabwe side, which only won 7 of the 63 Tests that Flower played.
Anil Kumble- Took an immense haul of wickets, with decent leg-spin, but he as no Shane Warne. He got the ball to turn a little, mixed up his pace quite well, but never appeared to look particularly threatening. Managed to take alot of wickets though.
Courtney Walsh- Didn't have the pace or ferocity of his partner Curtley Ambrose, but was the more successful of the 2 bowlers, taking more wickets and finishing his career as the 2nd most successful fast bowler in the history of the game.
Makhaya Ntini- Ntini isn't the quickest, he's not the most accurate, he doesn't get the ball to really do much in the air, but has still managed to chalk up 388 Test victims. It's Ntini's strange angle that has led to the majority of his wickets, and considering it's almost impossible for him to get an LBW of a left hander from over the wicket, I think he's done pretty well!
Matthew Hoggard- A flawed action (bowling round his arse) leads to not a great deal of pace, but Hoggard still managed to take alot of wickets for England with his swing. Never looked particularly threatening when it wasn't swinging, but even at his pace he managed to take alot of wickets. Well done to him.
Sure I've forgotten a few people, but they're the ones I could come up with, plus a little help from a Cricinfo article I found. Was far more difficult than the modern underachievers.
He if was extremely talented then he would've played more shots.His 10,000 ODI runs were gifted by the ICC, were'nt they?
He was extremely talented imo.