Virender Sehwag : Done & Dusted?

[Prithvi]

What does Bhajji have to do with this discussion?? We are talking about Sehwag...

Its actually Bhajji who will experience an end if he doesn't pick wickets now. Sehwag will be in the squad atleast for upto home series against Australia, even if he clicks once in a series.

I mean to say that Bhajji is facing critical testing time, Sehwag is just entering the out of form phase, but one good match and he will be back in form, what isn't happening in the case of Harbhajan.

 

[Anish.]

Its actually Bhajji who will experience an end if he doesn't pick wickets now. Sehwag will be in the squad atleast for upto home series against Australia, even if he clicks once in a series.

I mean to say that Bhajji is facing critical testing time, Sehwag is just entering the out of form phase, but one good match and he will be back in form, what isn't happening in the case of Harbhajan.

Do you like to spam..It's Sehwasg & not Harbhajan

 

[ZoraxDoom]

From 31st August 2010 to 31st August 2012, Sehwag has played 19 Test matches (Aus in Aus, Eng in Eng, RSA in RSA, and WI/NZ at home), and has averaged 37.26 with once century and 10 fifties.
His one century was a mammoth 173, which accounted for 13.65% of the 1267 runs he has scored in that time.

Not too shabby in itself. In India, however, he has averaged 55.25 and has scored his 1 century and 7 of his fifties.

This suggests that while he has be wayyyy below average in playing outside of India in the last 2 years (383 runs in 18 innings @ 21.27 with 3 fifties), selecting him for a series in India is completely justified.

Whether or not selecting him over a younger opener is best for India's long term interests however, is another issue.

The stats show that picking him for any of our upcoming away tours clearly is not justified, and he is bound to struggle. We may be better off with another (younger?) opener for those tours.

So if the long-term decision is that Sehwag is not going to tour with India, then it would be a wise move to drop him for the upcoming home tours and let a new younger opener (Mukund, Vijay, even Rahane) get used to the position on their home turf before exposing them overseas. As it stands, India could really stick almost any opener in India at the moment at the opening slot in overseas tours, and their not going to do much worse than Sehwag is at the moment.

 

[SaiSrini]

Someone was discussing why Sehwag when Tendulkar is still there. The case with Tendulkar is different. With the retirement of Dravid and Laxman at one go, the fulcrum of India's batting has majorly disappeared. Tendulkar is the only remaining link that gradually transitions India's batting into the future. And also, his stats are almost inseperable with that of Sehwag's in the last 9-10 games. But Tendulkar stays because he needs to be there to guide the younger batsmen, and his form isn't that worse. He just plays very few games these days that it doesn't matter much.

 

[Satan666]

Someone was discussing why Sehwag when Tendulkar is still there. The case with Tendulkar is different. With the retirement of Dravid and Laxman at one go, the fulcrum of India's batting has majorly disappeared. Tendulkar is the only remaining link that gradually transitions India's batting into the future. And also, his stats are almost inseperable with that of Sehwag's in the last 9-10 games. But Tendulkar stays because he needs to be there to guide the younger batsmen, and his form isn't that worse. He just plays very few games these days that it doesn't matter much.

If he hardly play matches these days how is it possible for him to guide the youngsters technically?

If not in the technical aspect he apparently is failing or has not commited himself towards building team unity and any sense of self belief in the youngsters since we all know about the disunity and constant disagreements within team.

Hence your reason for letting Sachin occupy a spot is invalid!

 

[Epic]

Sure hope so, I'm just about done with his petulant 'this is how I play' attitude, this is how you play? Find yourself another team.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

\And also, his stats are almost inseperable with that of Sehwag's in the last 9-10 games. But Tendulkar stays because he needs to be there to guide the younger batsmen, and his form isn't that worse. He just plays very few games these days that it doesn't matter much.

Sachin in the same time frame has played 21 Tests, and in 38 innings has scored 1696 runs at the much, much better average of 48.45. Below his career average? Yes, but still pretty good. He has 3 tons and 9 fifties, a 214 against Australia in India being one of them.

Playing away from home, Sachin averages more than twice what Sehwag has managed - 44.30 (22 innings, 2 tons, 4 fifties).

Although in 2012, Sachin's 9 innings brought him only 1 fifty and 245 runs at the average of 27.22.

Overall though, Sachin's doing more to justify his spot in the side with the bat than Sehwag is. He's actually doing pretty well. No reason for him to be dropped yet.

 

[Lee1981]

Tendulkar stays because he needs to be there to guide the younger batsmen,

No he stays because of the blind faith that most of the country have in him and that most Indians can't face up to life without him, face facts his career is over.

 

[Aislabie]

Abhinav Mukund
Ajinkya Rahane
Chetashwar Pujara
Virat Kohli
Unmukt Chand
Suresh Raina

With young stocks like that, it's perfectly credible to look for a turnover of older batsmen.

 

[Satan666]

No he stays because of the blind faith that most of the country have in him and that most Indians can't face up to life without him, face facts his career is over.

True that. Blind faith.

 

[SaiSrini]

Abhinav Mukund
Ajinkya Rahane
Chetashwar Pujara
Virat Kohli
Unmukt Chand
Suresh Raina

With young stocks like that, it's perfectly credible to look for a turnover of older batsmen.

Although you seem to be arguing in favor of Tendulkar, but without having seen Unmukt Chand and Rahane in particular in international test cricket, and with the likes of Virat Kohli and Cheteshwar Pujara showing immense promise, how can you say that they do not inspire much hope? Only Raina and Mukund have failed to deliver, and more so Raina because Mukund has played only a handful games (because he can't settle in as the Sehwag-Gambhir is the senior pro pair).

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No he stays because of the blind faith that most of the country have in him and that most Indians can't face up to life without him, face facts his career is over.

If you go and read many Indian newspaper sites and forums, you will see a lot of people these days wanting Tendulkar to shut shop on his career. There are enough Indians who are ready for life without Tendulkar.

 

[Satan666]

If you go and read many Indian newspaper sites and forums, you will see a lot of people these days wanting Tendulkar to shut shop on his career. There are enough Indians who are ready for life without Tendulkar.

Are you ready for life without Sachin walking on to the pitch for an international test match?

You know what I am not ready, felt bad when Lee, Lara, Bond, Akthar, laxman and others did, still feel like something from cricket is missing, change is hard to get use to.

The Indians are the biggest fans in the game, no where in this world do a bunch of people treat cricket as a religion, and its a billion plus. Thing is Sai that in India Sachin is actually bigger than the game, cricket is a religion in India and he is their god. Making him stay longer playing so deplorable will make it hurt much more when he actually decides to hang up the gloves.

Similarly Sehwag is 34 years he can play to the next world cup but you guys want him to go, its unfair but I guess he is a meagre mortal to Sachin as a poster alluded to blind faith.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Sure hope so, I'm just about done with his petulant 'this is how I play' attitude, this is how you play? Find yourself another team.

Believe it or not, that attitude has got him an average of 50 plus in Test cricket. And, it is guys like him that make Test cricket much more interesting.

 

[Left_Hander]

Sehwag didn't have a great tour of Australia and I'm not sure what he has done since but if this thread has been made, I'm assuming he hasn't scored many runs. India needs to blood new players. They can't have the old brigade hang around forever, like Australia but at least India looks to have a few batsmen warranting selection unlike Australia.

 

[Epic]

Believe it or not, that attitude has got him an average of 50 plus in Test cricket. And, it is guys like him that make Test cricket much more interesting.

Fair enough, but what does that do for us now? Absolutely nothing, stats aren't going to come down and win us games, in-form batsman are, and Sehwag sadly isn't one of them.

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Group B: Uttar Pradesh v Delhi at Ghaziabad, Nov 2-5, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

107 against Uttar Pradesh, but he came in at #6(was hit on the finger in the 1st Innings). Maybe that's something we could try out, send him at #4 or something, but for that Tendulkar would have to retire...