WC2007: Super 8

We weren't crying. We were being light hearted in the wake of a dramatic defeat because in case you haven't noticed we are not Pakistan fans and don't search for an excuse for every single defeat.
 
duded64 said:
we would of won if the players swapped teams :)


That's what the Romans did wrong.

So are England out of the tournament?

We still have 5 games left, we have to win 3 maybe 4. We really should've won tonight. Just makes me yearn those summer Tests to start again.
 
Some of you seem to be.

I can understand frustration. But if your going to be frustrated, be frustrated that your players didn't finish the job, not that the opposition bowler possibly lost his run up with all the pressure he was under.

England have Australia, South Africa and West Indies to come. Banglaesh are the only easy beats, and even on their day could stretch a good side. They're going to have to pull off another CB series miracle to stay in contention.

Really, unless there are some big upsets, the semi's look set in stone. SA look like they'll end up facing Australia in the Semi.
 
irottev said:
Really, unless there are some big upsets, the semi's look set in stone. SA look like they'll end up facing Australia in the Semi.

Even though they're the best team in the world I think our best bet to get through is ahead of South Africa, as along with us they are the only two team who didn't carry points through with a real chance of progressing. I think it is down between England and South Africa now, Sri Lanka are almost there and it's probably safe to say the Windies are out.
 
I'm going to be bold enough to say drop Flintoff, or drop him down the order. He's becoming pathetic with the bat, somewhat worse than an Irfan Pathan. I'd drop Vaughn to about 11 also. He's just a crap batsman in ODI's. If they can have "pure" wicketkeepers why can't they have pure captains? Although i do support Sri Lanka for the rest of this tournament, my heart went to the English when Ravi Bopara stepped out to bat. What a partnership!
Bell was unlucky, and KP=needs to convert the 30's, 40's, 50's into 100's. Obviously the middle order can't bat once KP is gone, rest for ofcourse Bell and Bopara (Nixon=lower order :p) So he has to take responsibility and get that 80-120, and get that not out. He's supposed to be one of the best ODI batsman in the world (I don't know how many times Hussain said that when KP was batting) so why doesn't he get that 100?
Credit to Srilanka, they played well but then played like India when it came to the death. Made it too close for comfort, couldn't penetrate. Should have gotten more runs on the board, Tharanga was slow and the whole lower order just crumbled. Should have really got that 260.
On the whole, being a neutral spectator i'm happy that an Indian made his mark in the world cup :)
Joyce has failed failed failed and failed, and he's still in the side. What happened to strauss? DROP JOYCE FOR GODS SAKE!
 
Devastated at the loss!
Great game of cricket though and the best since Ireland v Zimbabwe. Unlucky loss but some positives to take before a massive game against Australia!

With that come back today I still think that England have a big part to play in this World Cup...
 
Looks like we're going to have to go the hard way to reach the semis, but I think we can beat Australia.
 
I do too. I was one of the only people who said we could beat them in CB Series and look what happened. We just need one of those days were everything clicks.
 
Cricketman93 said:
I'm going to be bold enough to say drop Flintoff, or drop him down the order. He's becoming pathetic with the bat, somewhat worse than an Irfan Pathan. I'd drop Vaughn to about 11 also. He's just a crap batsman in ODI's. If they can have "pure" wicketkeepers why can't they have pure captains? Although i do support Sri Lanka for the rest of this tournament, my heart went to the English when Ravi Bopara stepped out to bat. What a partnership!
Bell was unlucky, and KP=needs to convert the 30's, 40's, 50's into 100's. Obviously the middle order can't bat once KP is gone, rest for ofcourse Bell and Bopara (Nixon=lower order :p) So he has to take responsibility and get that 80-120, and get that not out. He's supposed to be one of the best ODI batsman in the world (I don't know how many times Hussain said that when KP was batting) so why doesn't he get that 100?
Credit to Srilanka, they played well but then played like India when it came to the death. Made it too close for comfort, couldn't penetrate. Should have gotten more runs on the board, Tharanga was slow and the whole lower order just crumbled. Should have really got that 260.
On the whole, being a neutral spectator i'm happy that an Indian made his mark in the world cup :)
Joyce has failed failed failed and failed, and he's still in the side. What happened to strauss? DROP JOYCE FOR GODS SAKE!

England do have a pure capitan don't they?

I mean Vaughan can't bat can't bowl, can just capitan good right?

And he's British :)
 
I thought it was a bit ironic that Murali didn't have a very good day, apart from when he was bowling to Pietersen, (1/9 in his first 4 overs, 0/39 in his last 6) just after he'd said he thinks he's the toughest bowler to face. Belief can be a powerful thing.
 
RoboRocks said:
I would prefer Vaughan to go and Collingwood to be Captian.
He certainly would make a great ODI captian.
Yes, lets burden another allrounder with the captaincy as it worked so well with Flintoff.

There's no point saying that Vaughan should be replaced as there is no available player who is better than him.
 
Murili aint going that red hot. I think players are finally working him out. He's been expensive lately and less wickets (though he still cleans up tailenders pretty easily)

Vaughan is not opener material, thats the problem. No hundreds. You want your openers to at least get the odd hunderd. His average is a joke really.

Unfortonatly, England don't seem to have too many to replace him and people are calling for Joyce's head as well. Vaughan may be better suited at 3. Then again, it's a place where you really don't want an easy wicket to fall, 2 early ones and your instantly in trouble.
 
Vaughan never has been a good ODI player, all the potential in the world just never has adapted to the ODI arena.
 

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