WC2007: Super 8

PhilD123 said:
He's gotta convert 50's into 100's. His last ODI hundred was in the ODI series against South Africa, thats a long way back and he's made a hell of a lot of 50's since then.
His made a fair few not outs around the 80s, 90s from batting at 5 though. Should've made a ton against Australia if it wasn't for McGrath.
 
I've just been looking through a list of his innings scores, since the Pakistan tour he has got out so many times between 30 and 70. Just look at this World Cup, he got out after getting to 50 against New Zealand, he got 48 against Ireland when he looked set to get a big one and then again yesterday he gets out after getting to 50 against Sri Lanka.
 
PhilD123 said:
Because he didn't need to do that from the bowling of Murali, he should have waited until the best spinner in the world wasn't bowling :rolleyes: His ego got in the way of England's position.
I think he went completely the other way. After Bell's run out he got completely defensive against Murali and totally lost his momentum. A player like Pietersen isn't at his best when he allows bowlers to attack freely; he must also attack and show the bowler that the battle will not be conducted entirely on his terms.
 
irottev said:
You seem to have misread my post. I said feel frustrated, but the ones to blame are your own team in this circumstance. The game even going to the last ball in such an average run chase was bad. That should have been easy. Even if SL had 2 pretty good bowlers, Almost every team has 2.

Needing 3 off the last ball is bad pacing. I'm sure your all over it now anyway. Time to move on.


I do blame our own players, but Fernando's pull out did affect the situation, I think.
 
irottev said:
You seem to have misread my post. I said feel frustrated, but the ones to blame are your own team in this circumstance. The game even going to the last ball in such an average run chase was bad. That should have been easy. Even if SL had 2 pretty good bowlers, Almost every team has 2.

Needing 3 off the last ball is bad pacing. I'm sure your all over it now anyway. Time to move on.
Hang on, are YOU criticising people for the way they react after claiming that England didn't deserve to play in the CB finals, rather than blaming your own team for losing?

Hypocrite.
 
Yeah it was a good fight back from England, and what about Nixon's reverse sweep for six!
 
Yep, Nixons never going to appease his critics and tbh I still don't think he's quite suited (in Tests I just can't see it working) but he's done his job in ODIs and certainly done better than Jones and Read did, wouldn't you agree?

Really chuffed with how Bopara played too.
 
Yeah, hes never going to play Test cricket for England and if he does....Shoot me! But he suits the one-day game fine, hes a good runner between the wickets slogs at the death and is a good encouraging keeper.

And in ODI's he has already surpassed Read and Jones definetlly.
 
MUFC1987 said:
Hang on, are YOU criticising people for the way they react after claiming that England didn't deserve to play in the CB finals, rather than blaming your own team for losing?

Hypocrite.

Theres a difference. Sigh. Did I blame the English bowlers for "cheating" and doing things like faking their runup and make stupid excuses like that for losing. Maybe I blamed an umpire, but I remember being critical about a few of our players.

The difference is, I was saying, we SHOULD have beaten England because we were a better side. Some of you are saying, we should have won because the bowler cheated on the last ball of the match. Same thing happened to us, apparantly McCullum "cheated" when he ran out Murili in a recent match. How is it cheatring? It aint against no rules. Blame Murili for leaving his crease, not McCullum for wanting to win the game.
 
evertonfan said:
For once i'm going to agree with Irrotev here. Although Fernando clearly cheated on that last 'ball' it still doesn't deter from the fact that we should have chased that target down before it came to the last ball. And though it was a 2 run defeat the bottom line is that we still lost and are further in the crapper in this tournament. I say we open with Bell and Strauss and put Vaughan at 3 for the Australia game as despite Vaughan being one of the worst ODI batsman ever, he always turns up against Australia.

Clearly cheated? How was that cheating? Is there a rule that says you can't stop on your run and turn back and bowl? Ok fair enuff you can say that it affected boparara's concentration but wat about the bowler? It was equally tense for him too. I mean wat about sledgin and sayin words into the batsmens ears? Would'nt that affect their concentration too? But am sure you won't whine and groan about that if you lost coz that would be considerd gamesmanship. Comeon people. Grow up.

Wat if bopara pulled out and the situation was vice versa and ENG ended up winning? I wouldn't have had a problem at all. Its tense and none of us can really understand wat the players go through can we?
 
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I wouldn't have had a problem if it wasn't intentional, but it clearly was. But who cares anymore anyway? We lost, end of.
 
I just saw the last over. Fernando only bowled length balls, it isn;t like he was bowling yorkers. The pull out ball, yeah looks intentional.
 

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