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No Bairstow, Foakes, Wood, Leach and Robinson. One would assume Mark Wood is being rested (possibly Bairstow). Does not look good for the careers of the others going forward. Two of them essentially having their understudies picked ahead of them.
 
Shoaib Bashir before Test selection: 10 wickets @ 67
Shoaib Bashir during Test selection: 17 wickets @ 33
Shoaib Bashir after Test selection: 6 wickets @ 77

no indian conditions this time either, wonder what prompted them to continue with him
 
pillowprocter said:
Shoaib Bashir before Test selection: 10 wickets @ 67
Shoaib Bashir during Test selection: 17 wickets @ 33
Shoaib Bashir after Test selection: 6 wickets @ 77

no indian conditions this time either, wonder what prompted them to continue with him
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I thought they might stick with Hartley because he looked the better of the two and showed potential with the bat. Although he has been at the World Cup.

Can only think they've seen what they liked from Bashir and want to show faith in him with a view to the future.
 
wasteyouryouth said:
It's a shame for Foakes. It feels like England has really squandered a player with a lot of talent over the last decade. It's good to see a player rewarded for his Birmingham Phoenix form last season.
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I really do agree with this. I've always been someone who'd choose to pick the best available keeper as a specialist, but that's one of my views that seems to be a bit out of time.

pillowprocter said:
Shoaib Bashir before Test selection: 10 wickets @ 67
Shoaib Bashir during Test selection: 17 wickets @ 33
Shoaib Bashir after Test selection: 6 wickets @ 77

no indian conditions this time either, wonder what prompted them to continue with him
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Perhaps they've picked him off the back of his 19 second XI wickets @ 17.57

In all seriousness though, Bashir really represents their ongoing theory of picking a player based on their physical attributes and data that is independent of results (numbers like bowling speed, drift, average length, spin rate) and I can't imagine they want to abandon that theory so quickly
 
Jofra’s talk about getting fit and targeting test cricket for the ashes down under while on comms during the Hundred today got me thinking about the potential ashes squad down under in 2025. This what I would take in a hypothetical 18 man squad if I were the selectors

1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Harry Brook
6. Ben Stokes
7. Jamie Smith
8. Dan Lawrence
9. Ollie Robinson (Durham)
10. Jordan Cox
11. Mark Wood
12. Gus Atkinson
13. Josh Tongue
14. Jofra Archer
15. Jamie Overton
16. Daniel Worrall
17. Shaoib Bashir
18. Rehan Ahmed
 
Dawid Malan retires from international cricket. Only four batters have a better average (min. 30 inns) and a more consistent century scorer than Kohli and Tendulkar.

A strange career; at times he looked like the answer to problems England had and then could as quickly begin to not look like the answer.
 
I always liked watching Dawid Malan, such an elegant cricketer and always got a lot of hate that he didn’t deserve. The man was super consistent and was a shame he couldn’t have had a longer career in an England shirt. He is only one of two Englishmen to hit international centuries in three formats. That peak Dawid when he was number 1 T20 batter in the world, when everyone was saying he batted too slow, you just knew that when he came to bat that he would get runs. He was a calming presence to see at the crease
 
Supreme General said:
Jofra’s talk about getting fit and targeting test cricket for the ashes down under while on comms during the Hundred today got me thinking about the potential ashes squad down under in 2025.
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I'll also have a go at picking my 18. Actually I might do two - a realistic one and a fun one.

Batters
Zak Crawley
Ben Duckett
Ollie Pope
Joe Root
Harry Brook
Dan Lawrence
Jordan Cox

All-Rounder(s)
Ben Stokes :c:
Sam Curran

Keeper(s)
Jamie Smith

Seamers
Gus Atkinson
Josh Hull
Ollie Stone
Josh Tongue
Chris Woakes
Mark Wood

Spinner(s)
Shoaib Bashir
Tom Hartley

Batters
Zak Crawley
Ben Duckett
Ollie Pope :c:
Joe Root
Harry Brook
Ben McKinney

All-Rounder(s)
Ben Stokes (injured)
James Coles
Jamie Overton

Keeper(s)
Jamie Smith

Seamers
Gus Atkinson
Brydon Carse
Josh Hull
Ollie Stone
Josh Tongue
John Turner
Luke Wood
Mark Wood

Spinner(s)
Shoaib Bashir
 
Aislabie said:
I'll also have a go at picking my 18. Actually I might do two - a realistic one and a fun one.

Batters
Zak Crawley
Ben Duckett
Ollie Pope
Joe Root
Harry Brook
Dan Lawrence
Jordan Cox

All-Rounder(s)
Ben Stokes :c:
Sam Curran

Keeper(s)
Jamie Smith

Seamers
Gus Atkinson
Josh Hull
Ollie Stone
Josh Tongue
Chris Woakes
Mark Wood

Spinner(s)
Shoaib Bashir
Tom Hartley

Batters
Zak Crawley
Ben Duckett
Ollie Pope :c:
Joe Root
Harry Brook
Ben McKinney

All-Rounder(s)
Ben Stokes (injured)
James Coles
Jamie Overton

Keeper(s)
Jamie Smith

Seamers
Gus Atkinson
Brydon Carse
Josh Hull
Ollie Stone
Josh Tongue
John Turner
Luke Wood
Mark Wood

Spinner(s)
Shoaib Bashir
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I think, barring someone having a catastrophic loss of form or injury, the top seven picks itself.

With bowlers, they probably have an ideal four or five they want to use, but it'll come down to who is fit.
 
wasteyouryouth said:
I think, barring someone having a catastrophic loss of form or injury, the top seven picks itself.

With bowlers, they probably have an ideal four or five they want to use, but it'll come down to who is fit.
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Totally agreed. It's a very settled side and I don't see them making any big swings on the batting front before the Ashes: Jamie Smith was the last piece of that particular puzzle.

On the bowling front though, I could see rogue picks for James Coles and Brydon Carse at least. Despite consistently average stats I'm sure they see Carse as a "Test-type" seamer (6'4" and 87 mph).
 
Aislabie said:
Totally agreed. It's a very settled side and I don't see them making any big swings on the batting front before the Ashes: Jamie Smith was the last piece of that particular puzzle.

On the bowling front though, I could see rogue picks for James Coles and Brydon Carse at least. Despite consistently average stats I'm sure they see Carse as a "Test-type" seamer (6'4" and 87 mph).
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Yeah, Carse can bat too. I feel like he's seen as a Plunkett type in the one day side. Not sure about test team.
 
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