2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup - Australia

[wasteyouryouth]

These are the overall numbers I assume. Rahul’s got the ability to turn a slow start into a good knock by the end like Rizwan. The main strength of his as shown by that average is that he doesn’t lose his wicket that easily in the IPL and that aspect of his is completely lost internationally in a pressure game because he is dismissed early or else departs before turning said slow starts into impactful ones. There’s also the factor of him not being a compatible player to the current Indian XI when there’s already Kohli who’s got the knack of showing up at the big moments and Rohit who’s the captain and has changed his game to play more effectively.

That graph is why the side still persists with him too, they know there is a Buttler/Warner esque talent in there that needs the right platform. However it seems increasingly likely that this platform isn’t a WC stage.

Yeh, I did look. Rahul's power play strike rate is shite.


I looked at all T20s, not just IPL (I don't think cricmetric merges T20 and T20i). He's closer to Babar (who plays in that woeful Karachi side).

Overall he's closer to Rizwan, Conway, so does catch up. I have felt that if you have someone solid and consistent like Kohli, a unique and brilliant talent like Suryakumar then you can afford to throw in someone like Shaw.


And England really could've done with Jonny Bairstow not breaking his leg.

 

[Umair7]

We were playing like a clueless chicken once Finchy went off the pitch! Missed a great chance to improve our NRR! Need to bring in Richo at all cost (can't carry an out of form Starc + Cummins)

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Dude, no matter what the discussion is you always manage to get argumentative stats at the drop of a hat. Every considered a career in analytics?

Lots of random statements get thrown around about players (I do it too) so I always like looking what the numbers say. It's a big part of how most teams make their decisions. Statsguru and Cricmetric make it fairly easily to look up some basics.

 

[ddrap14]

We were playing like a clueless chicken once Finchy went off the pitch! Missed a great chance to improve our NRR! Need to bring in Richo at all cost (can't carry an out of form Starc + Cummins)

For some reason, every time I see a 'did you watch the game?' take, it's always about Mitch Starc. You're always better off with someone who can (and did) bowl multiple balls that even Bradman couldn't play.

 

[Umair7]

For some reason, every time I see a 'did you watch the game?' take, it's always about Mitch Starc. You're always better off with someone who can (and did) bowl multiple balls that even Bradman couldn't play.

If two of our main bowlers continue to go for bucket of loads of runs, we will be in trouble sooner than later (I would keep Starcy because he can still bowl them unplayable balls as you mentioned but would replace Cummins) out of form Starc >>> Cummins in T2OI.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

If two of our main bowlers continue to go for bucket of loads of runs, we will be in trouble sooner than later (I would keep Starcy because he can still bowl them unplayable balls as you mentioned but would replace Cummins) out of form Starc >>> Cummins in T2OI.

Cummins is clearly in the team for his batting.

 

[Bevab]

Yeh, I did look. Rahul's power play strike rate is shite.

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I looked at all T20s, not just IPL (I don't think cricmetric merges T20 and T20i). He's closer to Babar (who plays in that woeful Karachi side).
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Overall he's closer to Rizwan, Conway, so does catch up. I have felt that if you have someone solid and consistent like Kohli, a unique and brilliant talent like Suryakumar then you can afford to throw in someone like Shaw.

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And England really could've done with Jonny Bairstow not breaking his leg.

Scandalous that with those numbers Shaw does not even get a call-up to the Indian side when they’ve been selecting all sorts of blokes and rotating the squad heavily this year. He’s got exactly what the current side is badly in need of and they’ve not even given him a thread let alone a rope to hang on to. Now him and Samson are both in poor form in domestic T20s.

Rahul does not even have the excuse that Babar does. 2021 PK was shite but the new LSG side was pretty good and Rahul only played even more slowly there. Having Quinny and a bevy of middle order hitters does help but it still feels like he’s just content to play this way and rack up the runs and stats to appear good.

No wonder Conway and Allen seem such a good pairing up top. They cover each other’s weaknesses well. No surprise that Conway was also targeted by CSK with that type of a profile too, Fleming loves his overseas batters that can bat long.

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For some reason, every time I see a 'did you watch the game?' take, it's always about Mitch Starc. You're always better off with someone who can (and did) bowl multiple balls that even Bradman couldn't play.

A better batsman (not necessarily Bradman lite) will just opt to be patient and take him on when he inevitably bowls that bad ball. Which he seems to be doing far more often these days. Starc is a white ball legend but he really needs a kick up his backside if he continues bowling like this.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Scandalous that with those numbers Shaw does not even get a call-up to the Indian side when they’ve been selecting all sorts of blokes and rotating the squad heavily this year. He’s got exactly what the current side is badly in need of and they’ve not even given him a thread let alone a rope to hang on to. Now him and Samson are both in poor form in domestic T20s.

Rahul does not even have the excuse that Babar does. 2021 PK was shite but the new LSG side was pretty good and Rahul only played even more slowly there. Having Quinny and a bevy of middle order hitters does help but it still feels like he’s just content to play this way and rack up the runs and stats to appear good.

No wonder Conway and Allen seem such a good pairing up top. They cover each other’s weaknesses well. No surprise that Conway was also targeted by CSK with that type of a profile too, Fleming loves his overseas batters that can bat long.

It's interesting you mention covering for another player's weaknesses. Been thinking about Kohli and Suryakumar as a middle order partnership. They both rotate the strike a lot, but SKY has a ridiculous boundary % that makes up for Kohli's average numbers in that regard. Both very consistent too which is another reason having someone who scores quickly but less consistently could be an advantage.

Allen is a good comparison with Shaw. Will Smeed and Phil Salt are similar. Good chance they will get out recklessly and cheap, but when it works they can get you off to a flyer (see Allen v Australia) or make a tricky total look below par (Salt v Pakistan when England chased 170 inside 15 overs). Smeed and Allen looked like a massively exciting partnership in the opening season of The Hundred. I was quite disappointed when they didn't/couldn't retain Allen.

 

[Umair7]

Cummins is clearly in the team for his batting.

Reminds me of Mennie/Bird selection.

T20I last two years:

Richo: 21 wickets @19
Cummins 18 wickets @31

Cummins either improves or should focus on ODI's + Tests & leave T20I to someone else

PS: Hope this post comes back to haunt me & Cummins take 10 wickets in the upcoming games!

 

[ddrap14]

Morning! It's been raining here in Brissy most of the morning, but as on and off showers rather than a downpour. Bodes well for getting two games in!

 

[ddrap14]

Just was walking past a guy with a field pass and a bunch of Aussie caps. Was like 'must be a coach or something...'

IT WAS MARCUS STOINIS AND I DIDNT NOTICE UNTIL TOO LATE

Edit: also saw Glenn Maxwell rushing to make it back with a coffee... obviously didn't stop to chat with him either, seemed in a rush

 

[ddrap14]

Weather update:

 

[ddrap14]

Unbelievably it is clear and dry. Two 20 over games!

Intrigued by Sri Lanka's selection. Really bowler heavy.

 

[ddrap14]

Gurbaz' straight drive is awesome

 

[ddrap14]

Gurbaz falls victim to that drive! Some cracking shots but he gets gone through by Kumara. SL fans erupt