Yeah. The last year Collingwood's really improved:
2009: 7 innings, 134 runs at 19.14 with 1 half century and a strike rate of 136.
2010: 7 innings, 59 runs at 8.33 with 0 half centuries (HS of 16) and a strike rate of 102.
Ha hold up. I never said KP had improved in the last year. So i dont know why you felt you needed to show me his recent T20 record, im well aware of it.
Collingwood's been abysmal in the last 2 years of T20i cricket. The only year he's ever maintained a remotely impressive level of performance was in 2007, and he only averaged 24 that year, with a strike rate of 139. If he's one of our best T20 bats at International level, don't you think he should start proving it, and start making some runs of actual note.
Sure. But as said before, up until 2008 T20 worldwide & for England was treated as basically exhibition games. It wasn't taking seriously. So their is no need to dwell on hsi performances crica 2005-2008 or any ENG player.
Collingwood is clearly one of the best T20 batsmen we have & overall T20 players. His record doesn't reflect his true ability, im sure he knows he needs to improve & im sure he will soon enough, when it matters for us. So you need to camn down & not worry so much yo...
Surely you don't doubt Collingwood has all the skills to be an effective T20I batsman??.
One innings, in South Africa on a flat pitch is not enough to prove that he's one of our best T20 batsmen.
Haha Excuse me what?. Why is & when is the state of the pitch ever important in a T20?. That was a top SA attack & it was the same game where Morgan batted brillaintly. What kind of double standard is that?. Was the pitch different when Morgan was batitng?? Really now son..
His performances this year have been pathetic, and performing decently in the IPL on flat pitches against generally poor bowling attacks is not enough to prove he's a flash International T20 batsman.
Nah. Evne though IPL bowling is poor, its still better than our domestic T20. Its still a fair guide as to whether a player would be a good T20 player internationally.
- Its the same IPL that propelled Michael Lumb into the team currently.
- Australia picked Sean Marsh based on IPL performances.
- Mahela & Kallis revived their international careers as T20 players by learning to open in a T20 in the IPL.
- Yusuf Pathan got his international career going based on IPL performances
So its not wise to dscredit all IPL performances. You can definately watch a player in the IPL & judge whether he could have success in international cricket. Collingwood certainly come acorss as a batsman who has all the pre-requiste skills to be a good T2Oi player.
Maybe Trott isn't the right option, though I'd consider dropping Kieswetter down to 5 and having Trott open with Lumb; but I don't think Collingwood is either. He isn't a particularly proficient captain, isn't making runs and the captaincy does appear to affect his fielding. If he's good enough in this form of the game, at International level then he needs to step up and start proving it. I'm struggling to see how he could possibly be deemed one of our best T20 batsmen at the minute tbh.
Kieswetter must always open. He has never played in the middle-order role in ODIs & T20s domestically. His game againts the spinners looks a bit hit & miss. Dropping down the middle-order could possibly be as troublesome as when we picked Prior & G Jones to open in limited overs when they clearly never did it before domestically. If Trott can ever play in the T20 is to replace Lumb - which ATM is not going to happen.
I really dont know what you have been watching if you telling me captaincy has affecting has affected Collingwood's fielding. You sure your skypsorts is working well my friend :laugh
Finally he is one of T20 bats. As i said above yes his record is not the best. But he has all the skills to do well in this format, its only a matter of time.
Im shocked to hear anyone question Collingwood's place in the T20 side. You defiantely are in a minority with this one since he is clealry safe in Andy Flower, the selectors books & probably 99% of England fans.
