hats off to you for putting in a lot of work, and I am in no way comparing Afridi and Sehwag.... but just wanted to point out the old age phrase....
averages don't tell the whole story
23 Feb - Kenya vs Pakistan
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hats off to you for putting in a lot of work, and I am in no way comparing Afridi and Sehwag.... but just wanted to point out the old age phrase....
averages don't tell the whole story
TBH, You can't compare both of these players, both of them are totally different from eachother. I mean shahid is regular spinner & bats lower down the order where as sehwag is a part timer, does not bowl regularly, & opens the innings!
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hats off to you for putting in a lot of work, and I am in no way comparing Afridi and Sehwag.... but just wanted to point out the old age phrase....
averages don't tell the whole story
What is his role then? To stifle the opposition batsman (low economy rate)? Or a wicket taker (low strike rate)?
Economy Rate
Australia: 4.46
Bangladesh: 3.85
England: 4.54
India: 5.01
New Zealand: 4.67
South Africa: 4.62
Sri Lanka: 4.89
West Indies: 4.75
Strike Rate
Australia: 41.6
Bangladesh: 30.2
England: 31.3
India: 66.3
New Zealand: 61.3
South Africa: 50.6
Sri Lanka: 53.1
West Indies: 44.9
So what stands out? The economy rate against Bangladesh and the strike rates vs Bangladesh and England. I have already pointed out that he has an excellent record versus those two nations in ODIs.
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TBH, You can't compare both of these players, both of them are totally different from eachother. I mean shahid is regular spinner & bats lower down the order where as sehwag is a part timer, does not bowl regularly, & opens the innings!
Of course you can compare them. I am not comparing them in the same skill set (batting, bowling, fielding). I am comparing their value to the team against the "strong teams" (in their stronger skill set, not overall because an all rounder will almost always be of more overall value than just a batsman/bowler). Sehwag is clearly ahead of Afridi in that respect.
Good match today and good batting practice for the Pakistani players. Enjoyed Umar Akmal's innings, he hasn't played like that in a long time now.
Kenya, on the other hand haven't improved at all. I am sure had they batted first they would have been bundled out for less than 100 again. Makes the group easier now,with one team virtually out,there is toss up between the 4 Test nations and Zimbabwe who could choke someone with their spin.
Kenya, on the other hand haven't improved at all. I am sure had they batted first they would have been bundled out for less than 100 again. Makes the group easier now,with one team virtually out,there is toss up between the 4 Test nations and Zimbabwe who could choke someone with their spin.
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Doubt it. Boring group really. Only question is who comes out as the leader - Aus or SL? And they don't clash for a while.
We know what a waste of talent he is! Just because he could not control his over agression with the bat. There's no doubt about his talent & skills. If ever he could hold his nerves & played sensibly, we'd be listing afridi along with kallis, Imran, sobers, the best alrounders ever produced!
In bowling & fielding, He's certainly better than sehwag!
ummm match situation..... again not comparing the two, which you seem hell bent on .....
my point is simply that you don't always look into averages to gauge a person's effectiveness. For example, Gul might have an economy of above 5 but he bowls at the death and during powerplay overs when batsman are going crazy. But you can't take away the fact that he is a better bowler than a lot of others who might have better econ rate than him.
Comparing two players with averages and statistics does not always tell the whole story.
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And you don't think I've actually watched Afridi play? He's an average cricketer with a lot of potential that has and never will realize. I don't see why Pakistani fans are so crazy about him. He's really nothing special and 9/10 people can see that.
Afridi is an average cricketer, whether he is pitted against Sehwag or anyone else. Nothing will change that. I am not hell bent on comparing Afridi and Sehwag. That's Afridi Akhtar who seems to think that I think Afridi is an average cricketer because I'm Indian. Uhh no, he's average because he's average. Not for any other reason. But when he makes stupid statements as he did, well, he should be proven wrong.
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Okay, you clearly did not read the post of mine you quoted if you typed that
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Mate In that sense, I'd equally rate both of these players' role to their respective teams in ODIs.
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I never knew
One thing Afridi does excel at, is having the stupidest hair style's ever
Seriously, his hair looks even worse dyed, then when I did mine (and mine was pretty horrific!!!)sami ullah khan
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And you don't think I've actually watched Afridi play? He's an average cricketer with a lot of potential that has and never will realize. I don't see why Pakistani fans are so crazy about him. He's really nothing special and 9/10 people can see that.
Afridi is an average cricketer, whether he is pitted against Sehwag or anyone else. Nothing will change that. I am not hell bent on comparing Afridi and Sehwag. That's Afridi Akhtar who seems to think that I think Afridi is an average cricketer because I'm Indian. Uhh no, he's average because he's average. Not for any other reason. But when he makes stupid statements as he did, well, he should be proven wrong.
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Okay, you clearly did not read the post of mine you quoted if you typed that
both of you are childish
Might as well on this performance. For me it just highlights the need for a tiered Test system because the minnows will forever remain that if they remain structureless and playing among themselves. Just 10-15 years ago Kenya were a decent force, they were left out in the cold and now they're just the fifth thumped minnow out of six games.
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Yeah... it was a fair point over the page and the response by Afridi Akhtar was needlessly inflammatory.
However, it was so needless as to be pointless. A riposte doesn't need to be made when you can let your opponent succumb to his own over-ambitious attack. Maybe if a whole bunch of forumers are talking nonsense then it's more reasonable to try to persuade them, but if it's just one guy, it's usually best to consider what most people would think and then roll your eyes or laugh it off.
There are lots of sayings on the matter, but let's just say it's an important skill to be able to let one go through to the keeper.
