Thanks for the comment! i am happy to hear that i am actually helping instead or arguing lol. I'll change the trees from 3d to 2d. Thats no problem! Also, the poly count for the stadium so far is 7430. It will go up a bit to about about 1000 more because i still have to add lights, grass, sky, and some buildings around the stadium.
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legend_master
The Art of Cricket Developer
Please do not add grass and sky and adboards - that is already taken care of.
Thank you so much man! you don't know what you have just solved for me lol. After taking those stuff out, i have completed the stadium. Here is the preview. And yeah, i will get rid of the grass. The total poly count is 8702
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Note: The Hero Honda boundary ropes are still in the stadium but they are just covered by the grass texture. Since the grass has already been taken care of, i will remove it and the boundary ropes will show up again. I noticed this after i had posted this or else i would have put up a new preview.
:happy The glowing light was my surprise!!! I didn't want to show anyone until i had finished it but here it is. So how is it? :happy
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lazy_chesnut
International Coach
@MS_Dhoni:
It's apparent that you have put a lot of time and effort into building the stadium, but having looked around the web for photos of it to compare to your work, it seems that there are some fairly substantial inaccuracies.
Firstly, I would say that the tall brick-looking building with the stairs out the back looks really good and really authentic, and there is a clear attention-to-detail, so well done.
It is a shame, however, that this attention to detail doesn't seem to extend to the rest of the ground. For example, the blue and yellow stands which go around the stadium should join up, rather than having gaps in them.
Also, the "red pink and blue" stand (at the very bottom of the lower-right screenshot) should be joined up and....well I'll just post this picture instead:
Also, the trees are not very high quality. Although this is not that important, as I can easily provide you with some better tree textures at a later date. Mind you, they are unlikely to be that visible from inside the stadium, so it may not be much of an issue.
Finally, the fence which goes around the stadium is very poorly proportioned. It should be a lot lower from the looks of that photo, and also the bars should be much, much thinner. This can be easily achieved with a better alpha-channelled texture. The fence is a real let-down, and makes the stadium look less like a stadium and more like a small model of a stadium - it doesn't look large.
So, I would suggest you take a look at the big brick building, which is very good, and put the same amount of effort into other stands. If you want some information on how to get the stands to join up into one curved stand, I can post an explanation on how to do this.
In summary, good effort, but try and be a little more precise. Really try and get it 100% accurate, as you clearly are able to do it as shown by the "big brick stand".
It's apparent that you have put a lot of time and effort into building the stadium, but having looked around the web for photos of it to compare to your work, it seems that there are some fairly substantial inaccuracies.
Firstly, I would say that the tall brick-looking building with the stairs out the back looks really good and really authentic, and there is a clear attention-to-detail, so well done.
It is a shame, however, that this attention to detail doesn't seem to extend to the rest of the ground. For example, the blue and yellow stands which go around the stadium should join up, rather than having gaps in them.
Also, the "red pink and blue" stand (at the very bottom of the lower-right screenshot) should be joined up and....well I'll just post this picture instead:
Also, the trees are not very high quality. Although this is not that important, as I can easily provide you with some better tree textures at a later date. Mind you, they are unlikely to be that visible from inside the stadium, so it may not be much of an issue.
Finally, the fence which goes around the stadium is very poorly proportioned. It should be a lot lower from the looks of that photo, and also the bars should be much, much thinner. This can be easily achieved with a better alpha-channelled texture. The fence is a real let-down, and makes the stadium look less like a stadium and more like a small model of a stadium - it doesn't look large.
So, I would suggest you take a look at the big brick building, which is very good, and put the same amount of effort into other stands. If you want some information on how to get the stands to join up into one curved stand, I can post an explanation on how to do this.
In summary, good effort, but try and be a little more precise. Really try and get it 100% accurate, as you clearly are able to do it as shown by the "big brick stand".
aus_maestro
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Been following the TAOC forum for a while and never seen lazy_chesnut make such a conscious attempt at being nice in his posts until I saw the above.
<3 gimmie a hug matey :crying
<3 gimmie a hug matey :crying
well, its good you are looking towards every detail in the stadium but everything i did in this stadium which you proven inaccurate is not by careless mistakes but i did it because i had to. Before i started the stadium, i was told to not make it a high detailed quality because it will interfear with the game performance. I can make every single thing look exactly like the real stadium but it will go to about 30,000 to 50,000 polycount which we don't want. About the gaps between the stands: if you look carefully at the preview and the picture, not all the stands are jointed togather. I have been at the Kotla Stadium and i have not made the whole stadium through pictures. I made alot of it from my imagination. There are onlya 3 stands which are jointed togather and rest of them do have gaps between them.
About the trees: the preview of the trees didn't coem out right because the color of the trees(dark green) is not clearly visible in the dark backround. When i open it seperately, it looks alot better as it looks in the preview.
Finally about the stand: i know that stands would have been thinner, not alot thinner, but thinner. If i make them thinner then again, it would bring up the polycount. I will try to fix that for sure but if it brings the poly count too much then this is pretty good because its just a game. Also, i think the height is exactly like the real stadium because if you look at some other pictures of the stadium than just this one then you can see that the fence comes up to the first balcony of the pavillion as it also does in the model. And it will look much better and its height will look much better when i increase the size of the stadium because this size is pretty small as i don't know what height is required for the game. So it will be alot more stretched out which will bring the fence to a good position. I suggest you look at some more pictures and watch other matches that took place in this stadium.
lazy_chesnut
International Coach
Well, it is possible to make an accurate reflection of the stadium using a low poly count. How does making a stand thinner increase the poly count? Answer, it doesn't.
I suspect that the poly count is currently so high because of inefficient modelling.
About the joined-together-ness of the stands, I agree that not all of the stands are joined. But neither are they all separated. See the attached image for a clear explanation. On the left is the actual stadium, on the right, yours, with the outline of the real stands superimposed.
You've been asking for comments on your work - I gave you the benefit of my (comparatively) expert opinion, and you've chosen to tell me I'm wrong. There is nothing in the poly limit stopping you making a more accurate stadium. I reckon I could make a more proportionally accurate stadium than yours with a poly limit of 1000. Seriously.
@aus_maestro:
I tried, but it's not really worked apparently. Therefore, it may not last!
I suspect that the poly count is currently so high because of inefficient modelling.
About the joined-together-ness of the stands, I agree that not all of the stands are joined. But neither are they all separated. See the attached image for a clear explanation. On the left is the actual stadium, on the right, yours, with the outline of the real stands superimposed.
You've been asking for comments on your work - I gave you the benefit of my (comparatively) expert opinion, and you've chosen to tell me I'm wrong. There is nothing in the poly limit stopping you making a more accurate stadium. I reckon I could make a more proportionally accurate stadium than yours with a poly limit of 1000. Seriously.
@aus_maestro:
I tried, but it's not really worked apparently. Therefore, it may not last!
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_Nabeel_
Club Cricketer
it is a bad new for me as what i have made in dhaka stadium was totally different as it is in real due to lack of images
after a lot of search for images i finally got the 3d render view which the architectect have made for dhaka stadium
i have started my work all over again
after a lot of search for images i finally got the 3d render view which the architectect have made for dhaka stadium
i have started my work all over again
Tanmay
Club Captain
My colombo stadium is 90% complete just texturing is needed which will be sorted asap.Here are some renders
_Nabeel_
Club Cricketer
hello guys,as i had told you that i have to start the work all over again and i have started and completed about 20% and i want to share my excitment as the result i have got by redoing with splines had fiven me marvelous results
i had completed whole of the public stand by just 5 splines and only two modifiers and now only roof tops are left.i am not releasing preview as it is just a simple public stand.
@tanmay:your colombo stadium is looking like it is just made up of blocks which were setup in a shape of a circle
in colombo stadium,i think gaps a very less or are not there....
@appu:johanesburg stand is looking great and yes bend will make it perfect with smooth modifier for the rooftop...
hope it works:cool:
i had completed whole of the public stand by just 5 splines and only two modifiers and now only roof tops are left.i am not releasing preview as it is just a simple public stand.
@tanmay:your colombo stadium is looking like it is just made up of blocks which were setup in a shape of a circle
in colombo stadium,i think gaps a very less or are not there....
@appu:johanesburg stand is looking great and yes bend will make it perfect with smooth modifier for the rooftop...
hope it works:cool:
Well, what is the point you are trying to make? I can clearly see on the both images that there are gaps between them. You mean the gaps are not in the right position? or there is difference in the size of the gaps? If you are talking about the position that i tried to make it as accurate as i could. Also, this is jsut a game, not everything is perfect. If we all could make perfect models then we would be working in the EA sports company and not making a game here at the forum. One thing i came to agrre with you after looking at alot of pictures is the fence. I will make the fence again and a much better one.
Also, i would really like to see you make a perfect good quality stadium with less than 1000 polygons. I really want to see you do it when the real game makers couldn't do it. While searching about the poly counts yesterday online, i visited many sites which showed really good 3d models and they were made with the lowest poly counts. Even then they had high number of poly count.
Ok as far as the fence is concerned, i have fixed it.
Here is the preview.
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legend_master
The Art of Cricket Developer
Ok, just wanted to say a few things....
MS Dhoni, clearly your work has improved massively and is really looking great. The new fence is 1000 times better than the old one. I think Lazy's comments were very constructive and he only wants the best for the game. I know how you feel tho because i also hate negative criticism, but if it is contructive then it will only help you improve. Because of his comments you massively improved the fence.
So dont get defensive, rather you should seriously look at what he said and subjectively decide if you should change things to make it better. He did have some great points there.
In response to the polygon issue, i can tell you that 10,000 polygons, which is what we tentatively gave as a maximum guideline is plenty enough for any stadium, you have to be creative - low-poly modelling is an art form. Dont forget that creative texturing can save a lot.
But i think most importantly, get the structure right with the models and the texturing can add the details and make it look great.
Cricketdude
Chairman of Selectors
If I knew how to use 3d max I would want negative cricism and I would ask if there could be any improvements made, instead dhoni went defensive no need for that. The more criticism you get while making stadiums the better if it's going to be at the end(if you listen to it of course, or you get criticism by a drunk).
MS your stadium is looking much better.
MS your stadium is looking much better.
Is there any way you can give me the sky, adboards, and pitch texture so i can see the finished work? If you can't give it to me for some other issue then do you want me to send the stadium file to you? Just want to see the finished work.
Ok thanks for the hint.
I didn't start an arguement but i was just defending my point. I just wanted to say that i have made the stands from my imaginations more that the ref. pictures. Also, thanks for the comment.
