Academy release 0.0.69 - discussion

[Col. Hans Landa]

Made a video ft. Helicopter shot, switch hit and a special message.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

Made a video ft. Helicopter shot, switch hit and a special message.

Great Video Message.

 

[mazd]

Anyone successfully padded away? I only get leave.

Also can't get helicopter only dilscoop

I'm appalled that you even tried it.

 

[blackcapsfan]

Hard to say, I haven't seen this issue in the office, please give it a bit longer to see if there is a pattern.

All I want to say is thank you Ross for all the updates and hard work.

 

[FollowOn]

Once again let me repeat my self , no bowler (spinner or a fast bowler) should be able to spin/swing each and every delivery no matter even if the user gets perfect timing of input controls every time , amount of movement should be based on skills , conditions but largely random element and very rarely on user input controls timing.

They key thing is able to bowl a surprise /special delivery (like the one which bounce more than expected , outswing which started swinging very late , one off banana inswing rattling the stump , offcutter which pitched well outside off but shatters the middle stump) and it is mostly random in real life , if it was dependent on bowlers skills (or user input in case of video games) than McGrath would have bowled each and every delivery well outside off stump seaming a foot in to middle stump.

 

[blockerdave]

Once again let me repeat my self , no bowler (spinner or a fast bowler) should be able to spin/swing each and every delivery no matter even if the user gets perfect timing of input controls every time , amount of movement should be based on skills , conditions but largely random element and very rarely on user input controls timing.

They key thing is able to bowl a surprise /special delivery (like the one which bounce more than expected , outswing which started swinging very late , one off banana inswing rattling the stump , offcutter which pitched well outside off but shatters the middle stump) and it is mostly random in real life , if it was dependent on bowlers skills (or user input in case of video games) than McGrath would have bowled each and every delivery well outside off stump seaming a foot in to middle stump.

this is true, but in the context of a game if the outcome was "largely random" it might be frustrating trying to connect outcomes to input in order to learn and improve. some "natural variation" is desirable certainly, but the higher the bowler's skill and the better your input the more chance of bowling an optimal ball for the conditions.

 

[issue]

Made a video ft. Helicopter shot, switch hit and a special message.

Hi buddy can you let me know the controls in xbox controller for all those shots (pad away,switch hit)..

 

[Col. Hans Landa]

I use an Xbox Controller too. For the padaway if the ball is pitched outside the offstump I tried placing the foot (left stick) towards the direction of midoff and press the leave button. If the ball is outside the legstump I try to have the foot placement (left stick) towards mid on and press leave button.

For a slog switch hit you need to press LT and LB simultaneoulsy, move the Left stick forward or backward and move the right stick in the direction of 9 'O clock -11 O' clock.

 

[akshay3677]

Thank you Ross and BA for the hard work you guys are putting in for a Cricket game.

 

[FollowOn]

this is true, but in the context of a game if the outcome was "largely random" it might be frustrating trying to connect outcomes to input in order to learn and improve. some "natural variation" is desirable certainly, but the higher the bowler's skill and the better your input the more chance of bowling an optimal ball for the conditions.

Hmm than I think the spin bowling controls are good enough because it is really hard to bowl that a delivery which turns square and when you manage to actually do it , it is very rewarding , I think same kind of mechanics should be used for fast bowlers i-e harder controls but satisfying and rewarding output if you manage to pull it off.

 

[mikeymerren]

At first in legend but then i dropped down to pro but still found it really hard think only once in many tries hit green and a few times in yellow zone but most deliveries a weak spin! Also the point of having to rotate one and push another simultaneously feels a bit too QTE and throws me off being able to concentrate on the other aspects of the bowling like direction etc!

To me the amount of revs being departed should vary for bowlers based on skill and amount of spin depending on the skill of the bowler wrt conditions!

Simply a spin bowler should never struggle to depart revs on the ball, which is what the current controls are doing!

It should be challenge of who can out fox the batsman, very length speed flight, field tactic, not a challenge of who can rotate LS fast enough.






Find the new way really hard to do, its very hard to make smooth revs when your competing against time and trying to push the RS in green zone as well!

Before this was able to bowl without looking at the bowling assists, now i have to keep starring at it full time!

Can you try the Rookie level please, just to confirm if it feels as it used to - that level should be no different.

 

[BigAntStudios]

Once again let me repeat my self , no bowler (spinner or a fast bowler) should be able to spin/swing each and every delivery no matter even if the user gets perfect timing of input controls every time , amount of movement should be based on skills , conditions but largely random element and very rarely on user input controls timing.

They key thing is able to bowl a surprise /special delivery (like the one which bounce more than expected , outswing which started swinging very late , one off banana inswing rattling the stump , offcutter which pitched well outside off but shatters the middle stump) and it is mostly random in real life , if it was dependent on bowlers skills (or user input in case of video games) than McGrath would have bowled each and every delivery well outside off stump seaming a foot in to middle stump.

A very fundamental pillar that I have instilled at BA is every game we develop is a highlights reel of the sport.

 

[FollowOn]

A very fundamental pillar that I have instilled at BA is every game we develop is a highlights reel of the sport.

That's it , I can count on you then I was worried because currently as a fast bowler I can swing/seam each and every delivery if I want.

 

[BigAntStudios]

That's it , I can count on you then I was worried because currently as a fast bowler I can swing/seam each and every delivery if I want.

Not so sure we're on the same page...

 

[FollowOn]

Not so sure we're on the same page...

I may not be getting what are you trying to say , can you clarify it?[DOUBLEPOST=1472283389][/DOUBLEPOST]The basic thing I am trying to say that even the most skillful bowler under favorable conditions can't manage to swim/seam each and every delivery if he wants.