ACL T20 Squads - FINALIZED.

[Prithvi]

Why do Indian teams have the choice to take other players from there HOME team, it ruins the tournament, and TBH It has ruined the tournament. The only reason Central Districts made the Champions league was because of Ross Taylor, now they're flinged because of some pathetic Indian rule.

Way to stop a competition from being competitive, India

Even Central Stags could have retained him by paying USD 200k. Its not the INDIAN RULE/ something like that. Each and every member of the ACLT20 have agreed to the terms, which includes this rule. If your board is not interested with the current rule, they could have opt to pull out of ACLT20.

 

[Chewie]

Even Central Stags could have retained him by paying USD 200k. Its not the INDIAN RULE/ something like that. Each and every member of the ACLT20 have agreed to the terms, which includes this rule. If your board is not interested with the current rule, they could have opt to pull out of ACLT20.

What are you talking about???

Central had no choice in the matter.

 

[-D-S-B-]

Even Central Stags could have retained him by paying USD 200k

They shouldn't have to compensate anyone, players should play for their home team if it has qualified. End of story.

If your board is not interested with the current rule, they could have opt to pull out of ACLT20.

I don't think they'll be happy with the rule, but they'll obviously not pull out. That would be a waste of a money earning opportunity.

Its not the INDIAN RULE/ something like that.

Well they're the only teams that benfits from this, considering they can throw money around like it has no value whereas other teams have never seen 200k in their lives. Let alone be able to fork it out for one of their own players.

 

[pcfan123]

Its not really a domestic tournament when you have mercenaries playing for different teams. Its weakens the whole concept. Its not a showcase of the best domestic teams which it should be.

 

[Prithvi]

What are you talking about???

Central had no choice in the matter.

Nopes. Every team gets equal chance, according to the news I know. If a Player has clash in the preliminary squads, the one who wants him have to give 200k USD to his home team and get that player. As Taylor has multiple clashes, dunno what drama went in.

Binnu added 7 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...

They shouldn't have to compensate anyone, players should play for their home team if it has qualified. End of story.

Then what about Kieron Pollard and Dwayne Bravo? They both are qualified for Mumbai and South Australia/Victoria (respectively). Whom shall they represent?

I don't think they'll be happy with the rule, but they'll obviously not pull out. That would be a waste of a money earning opportunity.

Then even your domestic boards are earning for bucks by selling their players right?

Well they're the only teams that benfits from this, considering they can throw money around like it has no value whereas other teams have never seen 200k in their lives. Let alone be able to fork it out for one of their own players.

Even Australian teams have similar monetary figures, which they're not using. So, its not just INDIAN teams, which get benefited.

TBH, the players with clashes should play for a team, which has to be appointed with a draw. That would be fairer.

 

[-D-S-B-]

Then what about Kieron Pollard and Dwayne Bravo? They both are qualified for Mumbai and South Australia/Victoria (respectively). Whom shall they represent?

I couldn't care less, none of them is his home team.

-D-S-B- added 2 Minutes and 53 Seconds later...

Then even your domestic boards are earning for bucks by selling their players right?

Yes, but that isn't my point. My point is all players should play for their home team if it has qualified. Pulling out would be stupid because money would be wasted, but that doesn't mean money is the only important thing and they should go around selling their players. They shouldn't have to pay some Indian team for Their own player!

-D-S-B- added 5 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...

Even Australian teams have similar monetary figures, which they're not using. So, its not just INDIAN teams, which get benefited.

No way Australian teams have similar monetary figures, No way! They may have more than other teams (NZ, Sri Lanka etc) But it just comes back to my main point, money shouldn't come into the equation when a players home team has qualified, It gives an advantage to the richer teams, In this case IPL teams.

Even Australian teams have similar monetary figures, which they're not using.

Probably because Chewie is right and they have no choice in the matter?

 

[Prithvi]

I couldn't care less, none of them is his home team.

So you say that you just want the New Zealand team to get their full squad eh.

Yes, but that isn't my point. My point is all players should play for their home team if it has qualified. Pulling out would be stupid because money would be wasted, but that doesn't mean money is the only important thing and they should go around selling their players. They shouldn't have to pay some Indian team for Their own player!

Wait. When money has become major issue there, you should either pay the amount and get the services of the player/take some bucks, lose the services of a player and use those bucks for future editions of CLT20.

Even I feel for Central Stags. Taylor should play for Central IMO. But the rules being such, we cannot help. All we can do is support our team and enjoy cricket. At the end of the day, we're just fans of the game cricket and we must accept all the politics going on, even though we don't encourage those silly things.
Okay now, What if we argue? Will Taylor play for Central or Victoria if you win? Or will Taylor and Mallaya listen to me if I win?
Its just putting out our feelings and nothing else.

Binnu added 4 Minutes and 22 Seconds later...

No way Australian teams have similar monetary figures, No way! They may have more than other teams (NZ, Sri Lanka etc) But it just comes back to my main point, money shouldn't come into the equation when a players home team has qualified, It gives an advantage to the richer teams, In this case IPL teams.



Probably because Chewie is right and they have no choice in the matter?

Ah man, Victoria Bushrangers have been formed in 1851.
Won't they have atleast 400k USD to retain White and Taylor?

I strongly believe there is nothing like "No Choice" or anything like that. May be, it might have been under Modi, but definitely, not now.

 

[-D-S-B-]

So you say that you just want the New Zealand team to get their full squad eh.

No, Kieron Pollard hasn't qualified with his West Indies team (T&T I think) so It doesn't matter who he plays for, In that case I think it should just be down to personal preference.

Wait. When money has become major issue there, you should either pay the amount and get the services of the player/take some bucks, lose the services of a player and use those bucks for future editions of CLT20.

No, the only point I'm trying to get through is that no team should have to play for their home players! Money lost/gained shouldn't come into it.

Okay now, What if we argue? Will Taylor play for Central or Victoria if you win? Or will Taylor and Mallaya listen to me if I win?
Its just putting out our feelings and nothing else.

This is a forum, it's made for us to share our opinions whether it changes the out come or not. If we all went around thinking "My thoughts wont be heard by the ICC so there's no point posting" (for example) then this place wouldn't exist.

Ah man, Victoria Bushrangers have been formed in 1851.
Won't they have atleast 400k USD to retain White and Taylor?

I bet they do. But they shouldn't have to pay for White and Central Districts shouldn't have to pay for Taylor. I've said my point about 10 times now, I think you have the picture

 

[riz7khan12]

some pathetic Indian rule

what indian rule?, i thought it was the preference of players although i would be extremely surprised if Ross and Cameron chose to play for RCB.

 

[Sahil 7]

good to see ross taylor and cameron white are playing for RCB :hpraise

 

[Prithvi]

No, Kieron Pollard hasn't qualified with his West Indies team (T&T I think) so It doesn't matter who he plays for, In that case I think it should just be down to personal preference.

Why personal preference here? Won't the team losing his services lose some of his extraordinary performances? Even South Australia have qualified for CLT20 only due to performances of Pollard.

No, the only point I'm trying to get through is that no team should have to play for their home players! Money lost/gained shouldn't come into it.

I agree with you. But as said earlier, those BS rules of CLT20 make all these differences.
IMO, there should be a draw for players with clashes, which is fair enough and luck based.

This is a forum, it's made for us to share our opinions whether it changes the out come or not. If we all went around thinking "My thoughts wont be heard by the ICC so there's no point posting" (for example) then this place wouldn't exist.

I din't ask to stop posting or anything like that:laugh. I said its a space to share our feelings/ opinions.

I bet they do. But they shouldn't have to pay for White and Central Districts shouldn't have to pay for Taylor. I've said my point about 10 times now, I think you have the picture

I strongly believe there would have been EQUAL CHANCE, but Vijay & party would have bribed both Vics, Warriors and Central region to get White/Kallis and Taylor.

Spot that not only giving bribe is crime. Accepting it even is a crime.

With this, RCB not only gains the services those players but also Vics, Warriors and Central region lose the servces, which matters a lot in a competition.

 

[Insomniac]

A champions league with... no champions.
Interesting.

 

[-D-S-B-]

what indian rule?, i thought it was the preference of players although i would be extremely surprised if Ross and Cameron chose to play for RCB.

I can't say it's an Indian rule for sure, so I guess it's just a stupid rule That benefits the Indian teams as they have more overseas players in their squad and more cash in the bank.

Why personal preference here? Won't the team losing his services lose some of his extraordinary performances? Even South Australia have qualified for CLT20 only due to performances of Pollard.

Because like I said 10 times before He hasn't qualified with his home team so it should be personal preference, not the club with a spare 200k. But if he had qualified with T&T they should get him, that's the only rule I actually care about here if you haven't noticed.

What I'm trying to say isn't rocket science, it's common sense.

 

[riz7khan12]

never mind the earlier post i made, didn't know it went over 2 pages :o

I doubt RCB will win anyways, i strongly believe it could be one of the south african or maybe a australian team that wins it.

 

[aussie1st]

Champions League: Victoria hope to be alright without Cameron White | Cricket News | Champions League Twenty20 2010 | Cricinfo.com

How does it work any ways? Who forces them? Who's choice is it?

That's why I don't like A-CT. It's a flaw

The contract they signed when joining the club determines it according to that link. White was disappointed he can't play for Victoria but is bound by his contract to play for the RBC. Steven Smith is the one that loses out on Taylor, Smith and Kallis playing for RBC as I'm sure he would have been in the squad and probably starting 11 without them.