All Time ODI XI

2 guys that aren't being picked enough: Joel Garner and Glenn McGrath. And maybe Jacques Kallis too. Hard to fit them in I know, but they deserve mention. Garner's record is awesome, even if you adjust for the lower economy rates of his era. McGrath's ODI bowling is badly underrated and Kallis is just underrated fullstop.

I have Garner but I already have Imran Khan as other right arm fast men and you just cannot leave Wasim Akram.

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Saqlain was very good in his whole career not just in short span. His stats shows why he was the best ODI spinner with an awesome average of 21.7 and strike rate of just 30.4.Fastest to reach 100 and 200 wickets landmark aswell.

Look how he ended his career. Murli has been consistent throughout his career.
 
Hah :p - I just think his cold efficiency doesn't get people excited and hence he gets undervalued. Like Jacques Kallis too. People pick Wasim Akram and Brian Lara instead, who were great performers AND interesting to watch.

I also like hyping old players, since I'm sick of seeing all time ODI XIs that are basically the best XIs from the last 15 years. ODI cricket's been around for 40 years.
 
Saeed Anwar
Sachin Tendulkar
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Michael Bevan
+MS Dhoni
Lance Klusener
+Imran Khan
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Saqlain Mushtaq

In Tests Murali>>>>>Saqlain but in ODIs Saqlain>Murali

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I have Garner but I already have Imran Khan as other right arm fast men and you just cannot leave Wasim Akram.

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Look how he ended his career. Murli has been consistent throughout his career.
In Tests,yes had last three bad tests because of which his average dropped from 26 to 29 but in ODIs,I don't think he was ever that bad.
 
I also like hyping old players, since I'm sick of seeing all time ODI XIs that are basically the best XIs from the last 15 years. ODI cricket's been around for 40 years.

i do agree with this, not enough dean jones' in the teams and abbas was a cracking ODI player.

Garner's stats are unbelievable but I don't actually know that much about his performances, I suppose since his signature ball was the yorker I can sort of guess where his strength lay.


most people are picking old fashioned teams lineups though, how many ODI sides line up without two spinners these days?
 
Sachin Tendulkar
Adam Gilchrist +
Viv Richards*
Jacques Kallis
Brian Lara
Michael Bevan
Lance Klusener
Wasim Akram 1
Saqlain Mushtaq
Joel Garner
Glen McGrath 2
 
Gilly
Anwar
Sachin
Viv
Lara
Bevan
Imran Khan(c) Best Captain cricket ever had
Wasim
Pollock
Murli
McGrath
 
A bit biased? :p

May be but I picked Waqar as I rate him as the best strike bowler to have played ODIs. At his peak he could make the last few overs a nightmare for the batting team. I don't think many batsman would like the idea of facing last ten over with the two Ws looking to take out their toes.
 
I'd go with this.

Sachin Tendulkar
Adam Gilchrist +
Ricky Ponting(c)
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Andrew Symonds
Michael Bevan
Mutthiah Murlidharan
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Shane Bond(short career but very effective ODI bowler)
 
Matthew Hayden
Sachin Tendulkar
Ricky Ponting
Jacques Kallis
Brian Lara
Michael Bevan
MS Dhoni
Wasim Akram
Shane Warne
Muthiah Muralitharan
Glenn McGrath
 
I will only have one change in it, I will put Saqlain ahead of Muralitharan in an ODI lineup since he had far more ability to control the flow of runs in ODI cricket with hi varieties and his doosra was far more dangerous then Mural

To be honest, I think a lot of this comes down to the fact he actually came up with doosra. Bowling with it, when no one had any clue what it was was a MASSIVE trick up his sleeve, where as now the doosra is a big part of a spinners armoury and batsman are a lot more used to playing it. It's like Mendis and his carrom ball, seeing as it was 'his' he used to baffle a lot of batsman, but they have got used to it now and can score against it.

I'm not saying no to Saq. has he was a great spinner, but that was possibly one of the main reasons why he had a low average.
 
To be honest, I think a lot of this comes down to the fact he actually came up with doosra. Bowling with it, when no one had any clue what it was was a MASSIVE trick up his sleeve, where as now the doosra is a big part of a spinners armoury and batsman are a lot more used to playing it. It's like Mendis and his carrom ball, seeing as it was 'his' he used to baffle a lot of batsman, but they have got used to it now and can score against it.

I'm not saying no to Saq. has he was a great spinner, but that was possibly one of the main reasons why he had a low average.

Surely being an innovator shouldn't count against him
 
I tried to say that in the last sentence, and saying that it doesn't count against him, but whilst he did have other qualities is doosra was possibly his greatest. Where as someone like Murali has been successful with what he has when everyone has come to play the doosra fairly efficiently.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say?
 
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Just spent a good hour or so watching Jonty Rhodes videos on YouTube. Man, his fielding is just breathtaking. I think Jonty deserves a shout in the world XI as a fielder alone. His stats with the bat aren't too shoddy either - an average of 35 with a SR of 80 is quite impressive for the 1990s.

Anyway, here is my revised crack at it:

Sachin Tendulkar
Matthew Hayden
Ricky Ponting (c)
Brian Lara
Viv Richards
MS Dhoni (wk)
Jonty Rhodes
Wasim Akram 2
Joel Garner/Brett Lee
Muttiah Muralitharan/Saqlain Mustaq
Glenn McGrath 1

No Bevan but I reckon the inclusion of MS Dhoni, who has a similar average at a much better S/R - compensates. I think it lacks another finisher probably, depending on how much Rhodes will be up to task with the bat.

An XI for it to go against:

Sanath Jayasuriya/Virender Sehwag
Adam Gilchrist
Sourav Ganguly
Jacques Kallis
Yuvraj Singh
Andrew Symonds
Michael Bevan
Imran Khan
Shane Warne
Chaminda Vaas/Shaun Pollock
Allan Donald

Second team definitely looks more explosive imo... but what a match it would be!
 
Interesting idea... I would say your top team loses to the bottom team nearly every time... if only because the top team is a bowler short... Picking Jonty as specialist fielder is a bit bizarre :p
 

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