Drewska said:
I think the main people to blame are the people who fired up this arguement (BCCI i think?) jesus, its not like they tryed to kill him!
You mean the media, and the media is always to blame.
Let me address all the other arguments.
1.
India are crying because they lost.
You need a reality check. This non-issue would be an issue regardless of whether India won or not. The Indian media doesn't care two shits if India wins or not. In fact, they'd rather we don't so that they have more controversy to cover in whose going to be kicked out, dressing room squabbles, etc. If you still think this is the reason, you should really go stick your head in a bucket of hot water because your brain is obviously frozen.
2.
Pawar was wasting too much time on stage so it was up to the Aussies to push him off.
I agree that Pawar was wasting time (what can we say, he's an old man and probably starting to get a little slow). The Aussies may have the right to push him off, grab the trophy and drop whatever decency they have just to take a few photos, but the correct thing to do in Indian culture would be to patiently wait. Now, you can argue that that is a stupid cultural thing if you want (and I will just ignore you), but it is a deeply rooted factor of Indian culture to respect those elder than you and I am pretty sure that the Aussies, despite being really old, were all younger than Pawar. Do the Aussies have any excuses for not knowing this? Not at all. They probably forgot it in their excitement of winning this trophy, finally. But so much traveling is done these days into the subcontinent and out that I am fairly certain that they knew it. As I said in a previous page, if the Indian team was presented a trophy by royalty in England, they would know how to act around them.
3.
There would be no outcry if it was the Indian team who had won.
Look at (1). This isn't about who won. This issue has probably been blown slightly more out of proportion because the Australian cricket team have had a horrible track record of politeness. And secondly, I'm pretty sure that every member in the Indian cricket team is aware of these cultural nuances. Like every other cultural thing, it is engraved in our memories before we can make a decision about it. So this event would not have occurred if it was the Indian team (especially since the Indian team would definitely respect their board president).
4.
Would you (as an Indian person) be pissed off if your captain/players pushed off an Australian board president to demand the trophy?
Look at the ending of (3). It would be fairly unlikely that this situation would even occur because the senior members of the Indian cricket team tend to be measured, composed and seemingly introverted people. I could possibly see some of the younger members of our team do this, but definitely not our captain and vice captain.
5.
I want to go off on a tangent and insult Sachin Tendulkar because I have nothing to contribute to the real discussion.
Get a life. I can find a dozen critics of Sachin Tendulkar for a penny. YOU are not special for insulting him and he doesn't really give a hoot what you think about him. Also, none of the Indian cricket fans really care about if you lost respect for him (or if they do, they'll just flash stats in your face soon enough) because the way you have behaved in this thread, I don't think your opinion is that highly valued in this discussion anyway. Finally, I think as a staff member you should be doing a bit to try and calm the discussion instead of inciting it further.
Time to brush my teeth.
MUFC1987 said:
It seems that the general concensus is that the person presenting the trophy should sprint on, throw the trophy to the captain and sprint off without going anywhere near any stage.
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Lest the opportune moment for photo taking pass by!