BCCI making the Indian Players Slog

[Viren]

I think the players are being made to work like donkeys and therefore players like Zaheer Khan get injuired so quickly.Just 6 Days after the World Cup 2011, Ipl 2011 then in 3 days they go to West Indies and after the end of that in 5 Days to England.
What do you all think?

 

[cricket_icon]

It is a tough schedule no doubt but england and Australia have often had similarly tough schedules. I don't like how certain members of the media are using this schedule as an excuse for India under performing. The bottom line is this, England has outplayed India in every facet of the game. Everyone who was calling India a "great" team is now blaming the BCCI scheduling.
The problem is India deserved their number one ranking but they were never a "great" team. A team that is truly dominant must have bench strength, which this team obviously does not, although they have time to build that in the coming months.

 

[Viren]

but most english and australian players do not play in the ipl but in a way you are right.England and Australia follow a rotation policy so that all the players do not get tired

 

[puddleduck]

I am fairly sure that nearly the entire England team would turn down the IPL if it stood a chance of affecting their international test careers. Some already have. They are well enough paid and driven by pride and a desire to be the best. The IPL is not an excuse that can be used. If a player wants to chase the money, then by all means sod off and let someone else take your place in the test team. Dhoni has made more than enough money in his career thus far, he could have taken the decision to skip it. Also, I'm not sure four over spells are the reason Khan has broken down again.

As mentioned, in similar situations Australia have rested Ponting in the past for series like Windies away. It gives potential future captains a chance to further understand the role as well as opening up experience for one or two up and coming players. India almost seem to have become complacent. Afterall reaching first is always easier than maintaining first.

For example a LOT of Australians play in the IPL, but very few of their international regulars. The pinacle is representing your country, not cashing a large cheque and buying a boat.

 

[pcfan123]

Exactly, even the fringe players turn down IPL contracts to work on getting into the Test team like Bopara. It's a case of wanting to play for the national side in the most prestigious format instead of whoring oneself out to the highest bidder

 

[War]

It is a tough schedule no doubt but england and Australia have often had similarly tough schedules. I don't like how certain members of the media are using this schedule as an excuse for India under performing. The bottom line is this, England has outplayed India in every facet of the game. Everyone who was calling India a "great" team is now blaming the BCCI scheduling.
The problem is India deserved their number one ranking but they were never a "great" team. A team that is truly dominant must have bench strength, which this team obviously does not, although they have time to build that in the coming months.

Nah not at all my friend. England, Australia or no other international team has had the ridiculously jam packed schedule that India has had since the end of 2010 and will continue to have going into March next year.

So critiquing the schedule for INDs form in ENG is certainly legitimate to a fair degree.

Regardless of the fact that IND dont have proper bench strenght, the BCCI have certainly done a terrible job in keeping their players fresh for important series.

 

[SaiSrini]

Its not easy to reject playing the IPL if you're an Indian cricketer. You risk your career playing for India (if you reject the IPL, the BCCI will find ways to curtail your international career as in India, so many players want to get into the national team and so replacements are always there). Its the case even for players like Sachin and Dhoni (only Sachin can have the right to say I dont want to play IPL and yet continue being picked for the national side). Its the BCCI who arm twist the players to play the IPL. And the schedule is gruesome for the players. England might have been the better team, but the reason why India havent given a fight so far (or given up too easily) is because their body and minds are completely fatigued.

 

[pcfan123]

boo hoo they are forcing us to make money, cry me a river

 

[Aoun13]

IPL is a joke and Indian players have to blame themselves rather thier board since they are the one who for making money play in all these leagues. I mean it was so bad to have an IPL straight after a worldcup and it will and it is costing india. I am more then happy that due to some other reasons Pakistani players are out of this ████ otherwise they will have same problems of fitness what the indians are facing.

 

[cricket_icon]

Nah not at all my friend. England, Australia or no other international team has had the ridiculously jam packed schedule that India has had since the end of 2010 and will continue to have going into March next year.

So critiquing the schedule for INDs form in ENG is certainly legitimate to a fair degree.

Regardless of the fact that IND dont have proper bench strenght, the BCCI have certainly done a terrible job in keeping their players fresh for important series.

Something else I wanted to point out. India have played more often than the others, but like you, yourself said, only since the end of 2010, is that really enough time for elite athletes to be so far gone that they can't muster a worthy enough competition for a team who was, everyone said ahead of the tour, their biggest threat?
The IPL is a major point, if you can't hack it, then don't play it. Most of India's major stars (ZK, Tendulkar, Dravid, Bhajji) have all earned enough money to turn down playing for the IPL, so how then can they complain about burn out...or if they are not complaining then the media?

 

[SaiSrini]

boo hoo they are forcing us to make money, cry me a river

They make more money because of making the players make money. If the star Indian players dont turn up for the IPL, the brand image and value of IPL takes a major hit, TRP ratings go down, grounds dont see as much audience turn up, everything gets hit drastically. And the BCCI, the franchises, the sponsors eventually will lose lot of money and so the BCCI wont let this happens. The players might be making lots of money but if they dont play, the other lose lots.

 

[Ollie_H]

So the BCCI's greed is overlooking player welfare?

 

[Rohit Doshi]

So the BCCI's greed is overlooking player welfare?

I would not say that. For me IPL is a T20 tournament that is actually part of domestic structure. The only thing is glamour. People back in India are sick of IPL and eventually its craze will die and eventually it will be just another domestic tournament where National players participation wont matter. Its just matter of time. Say by IPL 8 to 10 that another 5 years, IPL will die and fade

 

[puddleduck]

They make more money because of making the players make money. If the star Indian players dont turn up for the IPL, the brand image and value of IPL takes a major hit, TRP ratings go down, grounds dont see as much audience turn up, everything gets hit drastically. And the BCCI, the franchises, the sponsors eventually will lose lot of money and so the BCCI wont let this happens. The players might be making lots of money but if they dont play, the other lose lots.

Then India needs to restructure their game and decide whether they want to be rich or successful.

Who could ever have predicted that splicing together a 20-20 tournament off the back of pure desperation to make sure they maintain financial control of a potential money spinner would turn out to be more akin to a travelling circus than a well-structured cricket tournament? In the process bypassing the other countries who were attempting to piece together a feasible format for a global 20-20 tournament. That doing so despite initially reacting with a lack of enthusiasm for the concept, perhaps because they didn't think of it. Perhaps because they thought the game was too short to show enough adverts. Who could say? Who could ever have predicted that it would hamper Indian cricket...

I use the metaphor of a travelling circus, because traditionally they are all about the outward show of illusion and mystery. Normally, behind the colourful shows and fantastic spectacles lies the bitter truth of forced labour, shambolic standards and misery. 10,000 people can shout, laugh and cry, but underneath the makeup, the clown is always sad. Back in his cage, the lion is sick and hungry. All the while, the ringmasters get richer.

 

[1iram1]

IPL is a joke and Indian players have to blame themselves rather thier board since they are the one who for making money play in all these leagues. I mean it was so bad to have an IPL straight after a worldcup and it will and it is costing india. I am more then happy that due to some other reasons Pakistani players are out of this ████ otherwise they will have same problems of fitness what the indians are facing.

This, and India's future is pretty bleak especially when it comes to Test Matches because they don't have bench strength. They should have planned replacements for Dravid, Tendulkar, and Laxman ages ago. Add to that their bowling department just sucks. Improve the First Class setup (although it is way better than Bangladesh) and maybe even get some overseas players to play in it.