End Game COMEBACK MAFIA! - Rudi, Cerealkiller, El Loco and Ashutosh Town WINS!

[Samarth27.09]

@deleted member Your analysis? You just can't quote a dead mafia and run away.

Sorry, actually I posted it incompletely... thought I would quickly add and the posts would double merge...

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[RUDI]

Hmm..it's been less than 20 hours since the start of day 2. Patience isn't your strong suit, is it?

Honestly I don't see how we will get a sense of who the SK is - at least not on day 2. It's not like he will make it that obvious. That's why I feel your role claim might go invain.

There's also the possibility of the claim being fake and can't be proven unless there's a counter.

You are a ray of sunshine, aren't you? My lack of patience in mafia games are well known already.

Its an open setup, hopefully the tracker tracked someone worth tracking and doesn't keep it to himself.

I honesty had no reason to have to role claim. I wasn't in trouble at any stage, a couple of FOS'es isn't exactly cause for concern to the extent to want to role claim. I could have waited patiently and do my thing at night, but with an open setup and a role blocker and tracker why play over cautiously?

Your play style in this particular game aspirin is that of wait and see, fluff posts that doesn't contribute towards us try to eliminate Yesterday the scum + SK and today the SK.

I'm afraid your defense of me not being the real Vigilante is poor by your standards.

My lynch stays for now.

 

[asprin]

I could have waited patiently and do my thing at night, but with an open setup and a role blocker and tracker why play over cautiously?

I say why not? We have the advantage to ourselves now. It would take an humongous effort on SK's part to win it from here. So I say why make things easier for him?

I honesty had no reason to have to role claim. I wasn't in trouble at any stage, a couple of FOS'es isn't exactly cause for concern to the extent to want to role claim.

I will agree with this. Perhaps it would be the deciding factor or perhaps not. But I'll hold off until there's some more activity.

Things will only get interesting if there's a counter claim. If not, then either you're saying the truth or the Vig is playing safe.

Your play style in this particular game aspirin is that of wait and see, fluff posts that doesn't contribute towards us try to eliminate Yesterday the scum + SK and today the SK.

I see no problem in wait and see. I do not want a mislynch to play into SK's advantage. I feel the more time it takes (read nights) for the SK to kill off the townies the closer we will get to identifying him.

 

[Yash.]

@Life Warrior has asked to be replaced by @Ashutosh. Still no confirmation from @Ashutosh. though.

 

[El Loco]

Rudi is not so stupid as to claim a Town PR in an open setup. If that is so, the real Vig should counter claim right away.

The thing is if Rudi's claim is fake at the same time I can see why the real Vig wouldn't want to CC straight away so as to protect himself in the game and maybe target Rudi when the night comes. This is all hypothetical of course.

Bottom line is claiming the most important town role on Day 2 marks you for the kill and it is somewhat reckless, this along with the above reason is why I'm still in two minds about the role claim.
Serious question to @RUDI, do you expect to survive the forthcoming night?

 

[RUDI]

Serious question to @RUDI, do you expect to survive the forthcoming night?

The odds are somewhat dicey, if I manage to kill the SR before he kill me then great. If the role blocker manages to block the SK great and if all fails then hopefully the tracker track the SK.

For the above to work, we need to be in consensus on whom the SK is, or at least have it limited to two choices. Two choices : if we mislynch day 2, we still have a shot either killing the SK or tracking him.

 

[CerealKiller]

Lynch : Life Warrior
Will unlynch if @Ashutosh. replaces him

 

[El Loco]

The odds are somewhat dicey, if I manage to kill the SR before he kill me then great. If the role blocker manages to block the SK great and if all fails then hopefully the tracker track the SK.

For the above to work, we need to be in consensus on whom the SK is, or at least have it limited to two choices.

Yeah but I don't get your reasoning, it's not as easy to weed out non-townies as you might think. What you've done is a massive gamble, we can't all decide who the SK is hey presto just like that.

Two choices : if we mislynch day 2, we still have a shot either killing the SK or tracking him.

And if that happens you will most likely die during the night, are you comfortable with this?

 

[AliB]

I was the first one to say that Rudi is fake claiming but a bit of study of the game and I'm sure he isn't fake claiming. The analysis and the execution clears that he has done some great job overnight. If he'd been the SK then he would've targetted someone more experienced than Bates.

And if that happens you will most likely die during the night, are you comfortable with this?

I did mention that but dunno why the Bates thing makes me believe him. And his check on your activity which is unfair clears you town. Your initial posts gave me a hint of you being a vanilla too, I interpreted something of a vanilla role pm.

So if we assume the above to be correct, this could be the real role list:


Rudi - Vig
Ali - VT
Loco - VT
CK - sounding town of late but not sure.
DM - @deleted member got to speak more.
LW - Not enough activity.
asprin - The style of play he is approaching might just be the SK. No analysis until someone suspects him then goes back in the shell - as of now sounds to be the best player but the one with the anti town role.

Lynch: asprin

 

[RUDI]

And if that happens you will most likely die during the night, are you comfortable with this?

Yeah, what's done is done. Just make sure you all get the SK.

 

[El Loco]

Yeah, what's done is done. Just make sure you all get the SK.

Well regardless I still think it's pretty rash behaviour. Whether it helps the town or not remains to be seen.

 

[Yash.]

Lynch Count

Asprin- AliB, Rudi
Life Warrior - Cerealkiller

With 7 alive, it takes 4 for a lynch.

 

[Ashutosh.]

My Analysis -

RUDI has revealed that he is the Vig.

If he is fake claiming, then he is definitely SK as a vanilla townie will never do fake claim. If he is SK then why he killed Master Bates in the first night? There are many experienced players like Ali, CK, asprin who can be dangerous for him.

If he isn't fake claiming, means he is the Vig. As PE said that Master Bates was not guided to post which means the reason behind killing Master Bates was wrong. If we shall not kill SK or role blocker blocks SK's role then this is going to be last day of RUDI.

So RUDI is Vig for me but why he revealed his role? What will he get by doing this?

 

[AliB]

My Analysis -

RUDI has revealed that he is the Vig.

If he is fake claiming, then he is definitely SK as a vanilla townie will never do fake claim. If he is SK then why he killed Master Bates in the first night? There are many experienced players like Ali, CK, asprin who can be dangerous for him.

If he isn't fake claiming, means he is the Vig. As PE said that Master Bates was not guided to post which means the reason behind killing Master Bates was wrong. If we shall not kill SK or role blocker blocks SK's role then this is going to be last day of RUDI.

So RUDI is Vig for me but why he revealed his role? What will he get by doing this?

Your take on asprin?

 

[asprin]

If he'd been the SK then he would've targetted someone more experienced than Bates

That's a very convenient way of supporting your argument.

The style of play he is approaching might just be the SK. No analysis until someone suspects him then goes back in the shell - as of now sounds to be the best player but the one with the anti town role

So by your own analysis, you have tagged 2 members as inactive and yet go ahead and target me. And do you have anything other than "style of play" argument to indicate I'm anti-town?

No analysis until someone suspects him then goes back in the shell

Please define "analysis". I don't go about accusing anyone of anything unless I have something to back my point of view. Doesn't necessarily mean I'm anti-town. Are you saying those who don't post much are scum?