End Game COMEBACK MAFIA! - Rudi, Cerealkiller, El Loco and Ashutosh Town WINS!

[El Loco]

So you are happy to sit back and wait for night 2 then?

Not all of us are blessed with your apparent clarity unfortunately

I never concluded something on you, the style of your play has got me in this. After observing this much, how couldn't you have a read on someone? I might be wrong with my reads but not really in a state of confusion. If you're claiming to be town-aligned, what's your role, not forcing to role claim but if my reads are right, only 1 vt is left, unless and until, @deleted member & @Ashutosh. speak up, it's kinda a mystery.

Lynch stays.

One VT left? So you're that saying you're that sure what everybody's roles are?

 

[CerealKiller]

Not all of us are blessed with your apparent clarity unfortunately


One VT left? So you're that saying you're that sure what everybody's roles are?

Thoughts on my post?

 

[El Loco]

Thoughts on my post?

I read your summary of his activity and sympathise with the reasoning it's actually pretty sound not too far-fetched and it seems he was picking at straws to go after you. He doesn't come off too well after User flipping town either considering the way he interacted with him. Among the drawbacks I have is how Rudi so readily agreed and decided match your lynch.

Sitting on the fence is frustrating but the only ostensibly solid insight into finding out anything concrete is Rudi's claim I don't think being cleared as town by one person means I should blindly follow suit. Of course all the anti-townies know who the town is so it's the easiest thing to do to interact favourably towards them.

 

[CerealKiller]

I read your summary of his activity and sympathise with the reasoning it's actually pretty sound not too far-fetched and it seems he was picking at straws to go after you. He doesn't come off too well after User flipping town either considering the way he interacted with him. Among the drawbacks I have is how Rudi so readily agreed and decided match your lynch.

Sitting on the fence is frustrating but the only ostensibly solid insight into finding out anything concrete is Rudi's claim I don't think being cleared as town by one person means I should blindly follow suit. Of course all the anti-townies know who the town is so it's the easiest thing to do to interact favourably towards them.

There’s been no counter claim (if the real Vigilante’s out there, claim now or risk the game), and he’s probably dying tonight, so i see no downside in clearing Rudi.
He probably followed my lynch to pressurise AliB.

 

[El Loco]

There’s been no counter claim (if the real Vigilante’s out there, claim now or risk the game), and he’s probably dying tonight, so i see no downside in clearing Rudi.
He probably followed my lynch to pressurise AliB.

If it were me I wouldn't CC tbh knowing that the SK could come after me in the night. Surely the aim of Mafia is too keep yourself in the game?

 

[CerealKiller]

If it were me I wouldn't CC tbh knowing that the SK could come after me in the night. Surely the aim of Mafia is too keep yourself in the game?

I think it’s a moot point anyway, but if the real Vig, if he’s not Rudi, counter claimed, we could at least narrow it down to him and Rudi.
Awaiting @AliB ’s response now, along with the other guys

 

[asprin]

but if the real Vig, if he’s not Rudi, counter claimed, we could at least narrow it down to him and Rudi.

I concur. If the real Vig is out there, I strongly urge you to counter claim. The biggest advantage we will have is that we would have narrowed the suspects list down to 2 persons.

Of course if Rudi is the real vig, then our job becomes a bit more difficult as the sample size will be bigger in size.

 

[El Loco]

Role claiming isn't my cup of tea (unless absolutely necessary). I can easily take the easy route and claim to be VT. But that's not how I play my game.

I concur. If the real Vig is out there, I strongly urge you to counter claim. The biggest advantage we will have is that we would have narrowed the suspects list down to 2 persons.

Of course if Rudi is the real vig, then our job becomes a bit more difficult as the sample size will be bigger in size.

Seems like you've had a bit of a change of mind here without any night activity between these two views. Makes me wonder what made you switch tack?

 

[asprin]

Seems like you've had a bit of a change of mind here without any night activity between these two views.

Not really. I was referring to role claim by myself. You would rarely see me taking that route.

Surely I can't force my beliefs onto others. They are free to role claim if they see merit.

 

[El Loco]

Not really. I was referring to role claim by myself. You would rarely see me taking that route.

To me this comes across as one rule for yourself but a different one for everybody else.

Surely I can't force my beliefs onto others. They are free to role claim if they see merit.

Well strongly urging someone to counter-claim flies in the face of this. You seem to want to have it both ways, if you want influence to the proceedings of the game as a townie there's nothing wrong with that so why don't you just own it?

 

[RUDI]

Among the drawbacks I have is how Rudi so readily agreed and decided match your lynch.

I stayed online should there be the need to unlynch Ali in case of hamer nearing. It was a pressure lynch.
Ali's total lack of response is alarming to say the least.

Tbh, I am seriously regretting outing myself to try and speed up the game.

This overcautious posting of you all are seriously frustrating the hell out of me.

In my mind before my claim the game wasn't as complicated as you all are making it out to be. The entire scum team got night killed night 1 , leaving us needing to find the SK only with 3 x Town power roles remaining and another 3 x VT's.

As I said early on day 2 , we need to actively find the 2 x most likely players to be the SK, the role blocker can block one of them, tracker track the other and I will attempt to kill the most likely one.

The entire GAME is to find the SK via process of elimination , find the most likely townie and eliminate them on your list of the possible SK.

BUT this overcautious approach to the game isn't getting us anywhere. Lynch someone today please, its a game guys, you're not going to find the SK the way you are playing now.

 

[asprin]

To me this comes across as one rule for yourself but a different one for everybody else.

Isn't it down to personal choice? I don't prefer role claiming but if others see fit to do so then I've no problem with that. It's not like I'm anti-role claim - just that don't expect me to follow suit.

Well strongly urging someone to counter-claim flies in the face of this. You seem to want to have it both ways, if you want influence to the proceedings of the game as a townie there's nothing wrong with that so why don't you just own it?

Fair enough. In this case, I'm urging the other party to role claim as I believe it will be beneficial to town. Otherwise I wouldn't have even bothered approaching this path.[DOUBLEPOST=1585721464][/DOUBLEPOST]

BUT this overcautious approach to the game isn't getting us anywhere. Lynch someone today please, its a game guys, you're not going to find the SK the way you are playing now.

I'm not overly fond of this but I think, in this particular game and stage, I find this worth a shot.

 

[El Loco]

I stayed online should there be the need to unlynch Ali in case of hamer nearing. It was a pressure lynch.
Ali's total lack of response is alarming to say the least.

Tbh, I am seriously regretting outing myself to try and speed up the game.

This overcautious posting of you all are seriously frustrating the hell out of me.

In my mind before my claim the game wasn't as complicated as you all are making it out to be. The entire scum team got night killed night 1 , leaving us needing to find the SK only with 3 x Town power roles remaining and another 3 x VT's.

As I said early on day 2 , we need to actively find the 2 x most likely players to be the SK, the role blocker can block one of them, tracker track the other and I will attempt to kill the most likely one.

The entire GAME is to find the SK via process of elimination , find the most likely townie and eliminate them on your list of the possible SK.

BUT this overcautious approach to the game isn't getting us anywhere. Lynch someone today please, its a game guys, you're not going to find the SK the way you are playing now.

If I'm being honest, your disbelief in the town not agreeing to being blindly shepherded by you is off-putting. Of course your claim is obvious to you if it is genuine but nobody asked you to put your neck on the line, in fact Night 1 worked out quite well for the town so it's not like you had your back to the wall or anything. The best reasoning you gave was impatience, how can you already be running out of patience at the start of Day 2?
I'm at a loss to how your claim would benefit the town in the short-term. Yes it would mean one confirmed townie but such a powerful role means your time is running out here and the likelihood of the role-blocker making the right decision is pretty low so early in the game with no in-roads, and you were banking on all that.

The only thing you helped us with was telling us you thought that the SK killed PresidentEvil, which was more of a calculated assumption rather than a discovery which you could've postulated without claiming.

 

[RUDI]

Night 1 worked out quite well

Exactly > Now go in for the kill ! ! !

Your thoughts on AliB and asprin please?

 

[El Loco]

Exactly > Now go in for the kill ! ! !

What do you propose we do now then?

Your thoughts on AliB and asprin please?

I think CerealKiller's lowdown of his activity is well-thought out and AliB's immediate reaction to it doesn't bode well for him.
Asprin has been more or less toeing the line up till this point.

The other two inactive players are being given a free-ride though which concerns me. Although the only thing that keeps me from suspecting them is the assumption that the SK went to PresEvil because he already had heat on him and if I'm being bluntly honest I wonder whether they have partaken enough in the game to have been able to detect that. The reason why he died on Night 1 doesn't necessarily have to be that though it is as likely to have been random so I'm not so ready to let them off the hook not by a long shot.

@deleted member
@Ashutosh.
Have you guys at least followed the game up till this far?