Cricketing Queries
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Insomniac
Title Recipient
Then the match should be abandoned because the pitch isn't fit enough to play on
Gurjot95
National Board President
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I can't see any reason of giving it not out since the another ball hasn't been bowled.
age of the fall
International Cricketer
I'm thinking it wouldn't be out, since the ball would be dead by the point the bowler is walking back to his mark.
sami ullah khan
Panel of Selectors
I think it would be out since the ball was not touched or anything. its a tricky one.
CaptainOZ
Panel of Selectors
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What if a fielder attempts a run-out, makes a direct hit even though the player was very safely home. However, the ball races away and they take overthrows. The fielder throws to the keeper who tries to run out the batsman, and this time his pulls all three stumps out since the bails are already dislodged. In the process of doing so, he drops the ball and accidentally kicks it away, and the batsman attempt another overthrow. The fielder once again throws it to the keeper. How does the keeper try to run out the batsman when there are no stumps left in the ground?
I know this will probably never happen, but I think it's still a valid question.
I know this will probably never happen, but I think it's still a valid question.
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pcfan123
Guest
Id reckon the fielding coach would shoot them before the could attempt the last runout.
lonewolf5646
Club Captain
in fact this has happened once dont remember the game
in such case keeper will fix one stump again and remove it and the batsman will be out
sohum
Executive member
The ball is dead so you can't be out. It's similar to someone attempting a run out when the bowler is walking back to his mark. You don't "appeal" for a bowled so as soon as the ball is dead, there's no chance of being out.
Dead Ball query
There is no defining moment when the ball is dead. This would refer to the ball being dead in the bowlers hand. So what would happen? Well firstly, the bail will either stay on or fall off due to impact from the ball long before it would ever get back to the bowler, simple physics states as such. It'd really be up to the discretion of the umpire, but I think any umpire that would call it anything other than dead ball, shouldn't be umpiring.
Sohum - Technically, you do appeal for bowled dismissals. It's pretty much implied, but it is still an appeal.
CaptainOz's complex overthrows
Any member of the fielding side can re-make the wicket whilst the ball is in play, this can be from replacing one or both of the bails, or replacing one or more of the stumps in to the ground. The fielder can then remove the stump with the ball in hand, and the batsman would be out, if not sufficiently within his ground. The umpire is not allowed to re-make the wicket whilst the ball is in play.
Of course the flaw in your example is the wicket-keeper taking out all three stumps at the same time with the ball in hand, unless he goes for some baseball style base-sliding.
There is no defining moment when the ball is dead. This would refer to the ball being dead in the bowlers hand. So what would happen? Well firstly, the bail will either stay on or fall off due to impact from the ball long before it would ever get back to the bowler, simple physics states as such. It'd really be up to the discretion of the umpire, but I think any umpire that would call it anything other than dead ball, shouldn't be umpiring.
Sohum - Technically, you do appeal for bowled dismissals. It's pretty much implied, but it is still an appeal.
CaptainOz's complex overthrows
Any member of the fielding side can re-make the wicket whilst the ball is in play, this can be from replacing one or both of the bails, or replacing one or more of the stumps in to the ground. The fielder can then remove the stump with the ball in hand, and the batsman would be out, if not sufficiently within his ground. The umpire is not allowed to re-make the wicket whilst the ball is in play.
Of course the flaw in your example is the wicket-keeper taking out all three stumps at the same time with the ball in hand, unless he goes for some baseball style base-sliding.
Highlander999
ICC President
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Oh, this is one that happened when I was umpiring last season when injured.
I was at square-leg and a chest high ball got bowled at the batsman. He tried to pull it, top edged it and got caught. I signalled no-ball but no one heard me and the batsman attempted a run. When he realised he had been caught he begun to walk off, before the other umpire realised I had signalled a no-ball and called the batsman back. The fielders then tried to run the batsman out (he had only gone a short way) but missed the stumps. The opposition captain told the fielder to stop it, apologised to the batsman and let him return to his crease.
So what would have happened if the fielder had hit the stumps, and the opposition captain had been unscrupulous? Would the batsman have been out?
I was at square-leg and a chest high ball got bowled at the batsman. He tried to pull it, top edged it and got caught. I signalled no-ball but no one heard me and the batsman attempted a run. When he realised he had been caught he begun to walk off, before the other umpire realised I had signalled a no-ball and called the batsman back. The fielders then tried to run the batsman out (he had only gone a short way) but missed the stumps. The opposition captain told the fielder to stop it, apologised to the batsman and let him return to his crease.
So what would have happened if the fielder had hit the stumps, and the opposition captain had been unscrupulous? Would the batsman have been out?
